|
|
|
Aug 27, 2004 21:16:07 GMT
|
|
How easy is it to retro-fit ABS brakes?
|
| |
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Aug 27, 2004 21:33:59 GMT
|
|
Seems like a whole lot of work, depends what you're fitting it on, what car are you planning on doing it to? The Sapporo?
|
| |
"He's not the messiah, he's a very naughty boy!"
|
|
|
|
|
Aug 27, 2004 23:24:09 GMT
|
|
More to the point...why would you want to?
|
| |
1962 Datsun Bluebird Estate - 1971 Datsun 510 SSS - 1976 Datsun 710 SSS - 1981 Dodge van - 1985 Nissan Cherry Europe GTi - 1988 Nissan Prairie - 1990 Hyundai Pony Pickup - 1992 Mazda MX5
|
|
Davenger
Club Retro Rides Member
It's only metal
Posts: 7,272
Club RR Member Number: 140
|
Retro fitting stuffDavenger
@dminifreak
Club Retro Rides Member 140
|
Aug 27, 2004 23:40:41 GMT
|
More work than it's worth. Special brake disks, sensors, electronics to recieve signal from sensor and controll brakes.  Sod it, get 4 pots |
| |
|
|
|
|
|
Aug 28, 2004 12:02:45 GMT
|
|
Yes, it would be for the Sapporo.
Basically, once I've got the new engine built and installed, I'll be looking for about 400bhp. As it is going to be road legal, I'll want to stop smartly if I need to...
|
| |
|
|
|
|
|
Aug 28, 2004 14:11:39 GMT
|
|
It seems like big brake discs and calipers are common sense, from a specialist manufacturer maybe, but ABS seems a bit pointless, especially since the cars elecrics aren't built to cope with stuff like that. What does everyone else think?
|
| |
"He's not the messiah, he's a very naughty boy!"
|
|
|
|
Retro fitting stuffBenzBoy
@benzboy
Club Retro Rides Member 7
|
Aug 28, 2004 19:12:19 GMT
|
If you really, really, really wanted ABS then I suppose you could go for a mechanical system. I think the Escort RS Turbo had such a system - easier to fit as there's no computerised gubbins to deal with. Could still be more trouble than it's worth though. Bigger disks, calipers, decent brake fluid and maybe relocate the servo to the drivers side (if it isn't already) would probably pay off better IMHO.  |
| |
|
|
|
|
|
Aug 28, 2004 23:27:28 GMT
|
|
ABS will not enable a car to stop any faster than it could before. It makes up for driver inadequasies, that's all. If you want better brakes, fit bigger ones. ABS will not actually make your brakes any better...not one bit.
|
| |
1962 Datsun Bluebird Estate - 1971 Datsun 510 SSS - 1976 Datsun 710 SSS - 1981 Dodge van - 1985 Nissan Cherry Europe GTi - 1988 Nissan Prairie - 1990 Hyundai Pony Pickup - 1992 Mazda MX5
|
|
SkoCan
Posted a lot
Quando omni flunkus, mortati
Posts: 1,916
|
|
|
|
ABS will not enable a car to stop any faster than it could before. Yes it can. A vehicle in a full skid takes longer in both time and distance to stop. It makes up for driver inadequasies, that's all. Partially correct. It has a faster reaction to changing road conditions affecting adhesion. Now if the driver finds the ABS activates a lot of the time perhaps their judgement isn't to good to begin withIf you want better brakes, fit bigger ones. Absolutley. Easier to source and service |
| |
|
|
|
|
|
Aug 31, 2004 12:15:28 GMT
|
|
But if the car doesn't skid / lock up the brakes, a non ABS equipped car can stop quicker than one with ABS....
|
| |
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Aug 31, 2004 16:24:35 GMT
|
|
I think I've heard something like that, so I'll agree. To be honest it'd be un-needed I think, I mean, a modern car being sold out of the dealer is heavy, and is to be sold even to the least capable drivers, so braking assistance is considered vital. But with our cars, they're comparitively lightweight, so bigger brakes should be more than enough to stop them, and I'm sure most classic enthusiasts can drive to a decent standard and don't need all the help they can get, including yourself no doubt Cornfedapache (don't let it get to your head, I'm not trying to flatter you or anything! ;D)
|
| |
"He's not the messiah, he's a very naughty boy!"
|
|
SkoCan
Posted a lot
Quando omni flunkus, mortati
Posts: 1,916
|
|
Aug 31, 2004 16:33:52 GMT
|
But if the car doesn't skid / lock up the brakes, a non ABS equipped car can stop quicker than one with ABS.... [glow=red,2,300]If there is no loss of traction the ABS never comes into play. Absolutely no difference[/glow] I'm not saying ABS is the best thing out there since...(pick something) It does require a different reaction. Unfortunatly the NHTSA has found no reduction in crash stats since the introduction of ABS. The difference is in what gets hit. Typical scenario. Full on braking....skid....loss of steering...jerk wheel to left(typical here) ineffective...still hit whats ahead. ABS scenario. Full on braking..no skid...no loss of steering...jerk wheel to left(typical here) effective...hit oncoming instead. I've avoided accidents both with and with-out ABS. It's part of my job to be able to use the potential of the vehicle I'm driving so it's up to me to tailor my response. Most can't.  |
| |
|
|
|
|
|
Aug 31, 2004 17:01:33 GMT
|
But if the car doesn't skid / lock up the brakes, a non ABS equipped car can stop quicker than one with ABS.... exactly right mate.....ABS isnt and cant be accurate enough to work aswell as the driver. If youre capable behind the wheel, then ABS shouldnt be necessary. |
| |
-----------------------------------------------------------------------
Owning a trans am is a sin, according to the pope.
|
|
|
|
|
Aug 31, 2004 17:11:37 GMT
|
|
All the electronic assists in the world aren't a substitiute for competent driving, people put too much emphasis on these things because they think they are going to stand in for care and attention over your driving. The fact is they don't, and all the assists in the world can't stop an accident as well as good driving can.
|
| |
"He's not the messiah, he's a very naughty boy!"
|
|
|
|
|
Sept 1, 2004 10:45:35 GMT
|
|
ap or wilwood calipers and big discs
|
| |
2001 HONDA CT110 (NOT RCV)
|
|
[*]
