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is there any e85 in england? thats stuff is the way forward, no more yoyoing fuel prices where the u.s. decide's to have a tiff with the neighbours. I'm gonna convert one of my bikes to use it. 105 octane. it's 87cpl compared to unleaded which is at 128cpl right now. sweden is very very into e85. The first e85 pump in the UK opened at Morrisons in Norwich about 4 months ago... Don't know if any others have opened since.
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There is nothing more expensive than a cheap Mercedes
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mickB
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had one quote this morning for £850 all in parts,fitting the lot - guy seemed pretty clued up to
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help I'm trapped in old car hell..........
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85% ethonol made from corn etc - renewable energy. It means that I will still be able to justify driving a 5.6 litre car for years to come!
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There is nothing more expensive than a cheap Mercedes
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85% ethonol made from corn etc - renewable energy. It means that I will still be able to justify driving a 5.6 litre car for years to come! Hmmm, anyone read the recent article on this in Car & Driver? They suggest it's not the wonder solution it's cracked up to be.
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85% ethonol made from corn etc - renewable energy. It means that I will still be able to justify driving a 5.6 litre car for years to come! Hope you don't have Nikasil Bores Bio-ethanol is not as green as people would have you believe The damage that growing the crops does to the earth should not be underestimated Intesive farming has nothing on Bio Ethanol when it comes to destroying soil in terms of Nutrients Its a political decision to help US farmers rather than a cure for the rapidly depleting oil/gas reserves..... you have been warned
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the way I've heard the Bio-Ethanol argument is that the US want to use big wodges of their spare land for growing the crops needed to produce it in large quantities... this will then shift the balance of power away from the middle east in terms of controlling fuel output, and mean the US get to set prices and decide who gets what.
personally, i keep out of the politics of it all, fill up with regular unleaded, grumble about the price a bit and keep on plodding along.
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Never trust a man Who names himself Trevor. Or one day you might find He's not a real drug dealer.
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e85 in ireland is made form some sort of left over produce involved with milk production
damn! my rg125 has chrome bores will it affect that too? i don't even know if it will work with a 2-stroke but it seem's i gotta try.
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I read a little snippet in PPC on how LPG is the performance fuel of the future. Apparently works very well on High CR engines and produces more power than standard unleaded.
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Used to be certified on this stuff Power realized is about 70% depending on converter. A swedish make has a better conversion. Just can't remember the brand.
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dp
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pogweasel in da house: what's e85?? [/divvy]
I converted my Skoda Shop Hack 1.3L MPI east block to run on E85, just fitted a fuel pressure regulator on the return line from the injecion and turned it up to 4bar wich overrides the stock regulator set at 2bar, the milage went from 0.62 liter/10km to 0.95 liter/10km but with 13SEK / liter 95 octane versus 7SEK / liter E85 it works out quite good monney wise but there are not E85 pumps at every gas station, although they are growing in numbers. The car became real hard to start and in the winter it was impossible to drive on E85 and you had to go regular gas then so I gave up on it and live with the gas prizes and since it's quite good on gas I don't complain but when started it ran like a dream, much more pepp and felt overall more powerfull....
The Stripper RSV Mille R I'm building will run on E85 since it will only be used when it's warm and nice and another gain from running E85 is that the working temp on the motor is much lower and that way I can getaway with a 50% smaller radiator, this is a thing many Hot Rod builders here in Sweden has found out so you can slim down radiators and if you are supercharging you get some extra punch from running E85 and if you run a gaz guzzling supercharged big block the savings of running E85 versus gas is huge......
terrarot in da house: damn! my rg125 has chrome bores will it affect that too? i don't even know if it will work with a 2-stroke but it seem's i gotta try.
Running a 2-stroker on E85 is NOT a good plan, first of all regular 2-stroke oil will not mix with E85, you'll have to run verry expensive racing oils like Castrol 747 etc. Also you have to jet it up so much it will be verry hard to drive so E85 in a 2-stroker is not worth the effort, in a 4-stroker it's perfect.....
DP says: There's an E85 exposion going on over here, the best selling new car is the Saab E85 9/3.....
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Last Edit: Aug 4, 2006 8:33:31 GMT by dp
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excellent thanks for the info dp! i all ready run all my 2-strokes on castrol tts, i may just try this on my spare bike (an RXS100) the oil should mix since e85 is allready a mix of pertrol and ethanol. i shall try a little experiment first by buying a liter or two and mixing in the tts.
winter up there is very hard ya? exactly how cold is your winter?
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dp
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terraroot in da house: i all ready run all my 2-strokes on castrol tts
First of all I would never use TTS in a performance 2-stroker, it's not really up to it. I have had a major sesiure of a 2-stroker (on NOS) where even Castrol admitted to it beeing TTS that could not keep up with RPM's and heat bildup. The TTS will NOT work with E85 since it's a 85% alcohol & 15% gas mixture the only 2-stroke oils that will work with that ratio IS a castor based oil and with that wou'll not be able to use your oil injection, you have to mix it into the fuel or there will be NO oil film coating your motors insides......
DP says: Belive me on this we do some serious 2-stroke tuning at the shop and will ONLY use VP 108 octane.....
Winter in Sweden sucks badly!!!!!
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has any 2stroke ever worked on NOS where was it injected in? <just curious> what was the weather like when it got to hard to start the shop hack? Ireland's winters are mild compared to sweden so i hope i can get away with it
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dp
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terraroot in da house: has any 2stroke ever worked on NOS where was it injected in? <just curious>You bet your ass!!!! I have 2-strokers on NOS for racing and daily drivers (kind of), the important part of running NOS on a 2-stroker is you must have fuel pressure so you must have a fuel pump fitted. On my racers I fitted fuel pumps that supports the gasoline side of the NOS setup. On the daily driver wich is an Aprilia SR50 DiTech, fuel injected 2-stroke moped scooter, the DiTech has a fuel pump that gives 8 bar pressure so to run NOS on that is childs play, on all the NOS 2-stroke setups I have done the Fogger is mounted in the intake between the carb and reed block and belive me it rocks!!!! Love to blow the doors of GTI's at red lights with a moped!!!! terraroot in da house: what was the weather like when it got to hard to start the shop hack?When it started to go down towards + 3-5 Celcius it was almost impossible to start without start gas (diesel start), between +10-5 it started but you had to grind it for a while and I could not get used to have to sit and grind the starter for a while all the time..... DP says: NOS is one of my favorite drugs......
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Last Edit: Aug 4, 2006 8:36:58 GMT by dp
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We're facing a grain crisis as it is without precious land being raped to make biofuel. *n
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Top grammar tips! Bought = purchased. Brought = relocated Lose = misplace/opposite of win. Loose = your mum
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We're facing a grain crisis as it is without precious land being raped to make biofuel. *n Indeed. The C&D article also made the point that the crop is fairly intensive in the amount of fuel it needed to grow, harvest, transport, refine etc.
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grain? why the fcuk make it out of grain? brazil is pioneering this stuff they make it outta swirtchgrass grain is not the best thing you could make ethanol out of and who says ya gotta make it outta grain? ethanol can be refined outta just about any waste veggies, even sawdust!
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so how long, realistically, before we can all get a sci-fi style waste disposal unit on the back of our cars to convert vegetable scraps, grass clippings and so on into fuel?
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Never trust a man Who names himself Trevor. Or one day you might find He's not a real drug dealer.
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Mr Fusion won't be available until 2015, or is that hover conversions? I can never remember ;D
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