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gutted for you  Nothing worse than a smashed engine. I know how you feel, my LT35 did this to me one day  You have a few choices - 1.compression test the engine (with the cam out) to check if the valves/pistons are damaged (sometimes you are lucky and it just smashed the cam) or just fit another cam (you mentioned that the old one looks ok) and try again. 2. learn how to fit engines - it's heavy work but less difficult that timing belts (imo) 3. Sell on, buy different car. FWIW, I'm guessing that either the tensioner wasn't square to the block and the belt "ran off" or the tension wasn't right. |
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To get a standard A40 this low, you'd have to dig a hole to put it in |
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Gordon Bennett, what a nightmare, I feel your pain Wichard. Sounds like you were within a gnats of success and now its turned to shiz.
What sort of car is this?
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1974 Lancia Beta Saloon
1975 Mazda 929 Coupé
1986 Mazda 929 Wagon
1979 Mazda 929 Hardtop
1982 Fiat Argenta 2.0 iniezione elettronica
1977 Toyota Carina TA14
1989 Subaru 1800 Wagon
1982 Hyundai Pony 1200TL 2-dr
1985 Hyundai Pony 1200 GL
1986 Maserati 425 Biturbo
1992 Rover 214 SEi 5-dr
2000 Rover 45 V6 Club
1994 Peugeot 205 'Junior' Diesel
1988 Volvo 760 Turbodiesel Saloon
1992 Talbot Express Autosleeper Rambler
2003 Renault Laguna SPEARS OR REAPERS
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going to admit, EXACTLY the same amount of dread hit me a week and a half ago.. Spent over £1k on my scimitar in parts, to convert to diesel I had to come to sheffield for a certain date, then off to manchester on the 8th of august, then back home to norfolk on the 28th-ish... the car HAD to be roadworthy by then A combination of dodgy donor gearbox, shagged original fuel line, and a downright DANGEROUS shell, made me realise it wasn't going to last the 300+ mile trip, and have me still survive I'm now breaking it, making about £500 back, and leaving £10 in my bank account to do all the above travelling, and live off. I'm living off loans from the other half, and coming to grips that my dream project will have to be put off, for at least another 10 years Personally, either swap for a working car (mine was worthless, I didn't have this option!) - or get a known working replacment engine, and keep at it! |
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You're like a crazy backyard genius! |
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Dude, I'm properly gutted for you.
Chin up bud, I know it doesnt seem like it at the mo, but it could always be worse.
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Remember the days when sex was safe and motorsport was dangerous. Vintage bling always attracts pussy.  |
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 I can do something else with the money I've got but that leaves me very little time to actually do anything with the car. I've got a drive and tools to break it, but I won't be here much for the next 6 weeks and after that I'm moving to uni ~200 miles away. Scrapping it is the obvious option but the most I'd get incl. tax is £230ish, and it owes me £600+. Engine swap to a turbo one would be lovely but impractical. Fixing it and selling it may see £500 but by that point it'd owe £700+. I did pretty much the same with a Mondeo - only it was between my first and second years of uni. Bought it cheap to do an epic road trip, ended up with problem after problem: clutch, ignition, handbrake, rear brakes, the list goes on. And on and on. Then my friends decided that they didn't really fancy an epic roadtrip anyway, so we ended up staying in a house in France for a week. The car hung around for a while, and was pressed into service the next christmas for another holiday - but it ended up being scrapped. That car got scrapped, and I ended up at least £700 out of pocket (ignoring the £400 insurance and £200 tax). It (along with a couple of other things) wiped out my gap year savings, so the rest of my degree was spent without much in the way of savings. FWIW, my suggestion would be to give up on it. Probably not what you want to hear, but at this stage you hate it, and you will just be throwing good money after bad. At least the price of scrap is higher than it was when I got rid of the Mondeo. Depressing - especially when you've put so much time and effort in - but sometimes you have to know when to give up. If you have savings left then either book a week somewhere sunny*, or put it aside - it's very useful having a cushion when you're a student. If there's money left at the end of the year, you can have an awesome holiday next year. James *Other holiday options are available.  |
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What sort of car is this? A Citroen ZX which seems to have been owned previously by beelzebub himself I've decided to 'give up' on it to some extent. I'll cash the tax in and start breaking it for parts the best I can. I will probably take the head off to have a poke around, more for a learning exercise than to go about repairing it. If a head does come up cheap then I may see if I can get it going again and flog it. If not, then it will be scrapped, or, if my mum is very relaxed about having a knackered old Citroen on her drive and I have some wedge going spare at some point I could have a crack at sticking a new engine in (GTi-6 anyone?) It's reassuring to hear I'm not the only one who's suffered car woes recently! Sorry to hear about your troubles chairchild, sounds like you've had it much worse than me. And James you've been in a very similar situation to me too! I try not to add up exactly how much it has cost me but it was an extra £400 on top of what I'd already paid in insurance too, and it has £60 of diesel in it, and I have £60 of veg oil sitting in the garden for it too. >cringe< HMRC actually owe me a fair wodge in income tax. Hopefully I can get that in my coffers quick enough to nab the car I've got my eye on. That will mean I'm back on the road again and can still afford a bit of travel. It was going to be my uni cushion/next year's insurance premium paid for but it looks like I'll have to be a bit more frugal instead. Hopefully splashing out to get a slightly longer-lasting car will pay off Thanks for the kind words chaps, you've been excellent. If it weren't for you lot I'd prob still be trying to work out how to get the bonnet open (perhaps that would have been better  ) |
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I'd just chuck another engine in there, I picked one up complete with a gearbox for £100 recently.
(turbo lump too)
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it has £60 of diesel in it, and I have £60 of veg oil sitting in the garden for it too. >cringe< Mine did too! Lol shoved in £50 of derv,ready for my cross-country treks..... After I gave up, and came back the morning after to tidy away my tools, I found the main fuel line crack..... at which point I'd probbably lost a good 5L of diesel to the gravel floor |
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You're like a crazy backyard genius!
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Happen to me too, our trusty old blunder bus 1993 toyota lucida cam belt snapped at 60k >:(should have been good for 100k was only 2 years old will never use pattern cam belts again, wreaked the cam snapped and bent so bit the bullet and scaped it as didn't have time to fix it working abroad. Think you've got to walk away and put it down to experience because as you can see you're not alone.  |
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ChasR
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I have been in a similar predicament.
Like Welshpug said I would be tempted to chuck another engine in that is known to work.
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Your persistence is admirable, i'd be towing it down a local country lane and "having a wiring fire" by now.
Matt
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Aug 10, 2011 17:56:20 GMT
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Err guys...  I went and bought another one (new on left, old on right) Identical in pretty much every way, except the sunroof & central locking work. And the cambelt was done fairly recently. Only let down is that it's got a Lucas pump. If I want to stick the Bosch from the dead ZX on it it means taking off the cambelt, which is hardly a welcoming prospect! |
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Aug 10, 2011 18:34:30 GMT
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Win!! Take the pump, sprockets, mounting plate, injectors, and lines off though. You can either sell that lot for £70+, or keep it for when the lucas pump dies And change the front bumper with your old one - it looks in better condition than the new one, same goes for the passenger side indicator ;D |
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You're like a crazy backyard genius!
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Aug 10, 2011 20:16:40 GMT
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10/10 for perseverance, many people would have chucked the towel in ages ago.
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Aug 11, 2011 12:14:44 GMT
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11/10 - your fighting spirit is to be admired  |
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Aug 11, 2011 22:54:44 GMT
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Cheers blokes The indicator was the first thing I did when I got it home! Changed over the driver's side headlight too as it had a funny hole-thing in it:   As it should be:  Tried to fit the nice Osram bulbs I'd bought, then realised they were the wrong bloody type. I'm driving it to Scotland tomorrow, then around there and the Lakes for a few weeks so hopefully nothing goes wrong. I'll change the bumper when I get back. I decided to drain all the diesel out of the dead one. Bought a siphon from Halfords that turned out to be shiiiiiiiite so I ended up cutting the fuel line between the primer bulb and filter, then pumping about 8gallons of diesel directly into the other tank, millilitre by millilitre. Took forever but at least it worked! Probably would have been 9gallons if I'd been a bit more careful...  |
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Aug 13, 2011 15:16:37 GMT
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lol, I can see the pump you're on about in the bottom right of the picture - what many people don't know, is that there HAS to be a fluid in the pipe for it to work.... which kinda defies the point of having it advertised as a siphon pump  |
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You're like a crazy backyard genius!
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Aug 31, 2011 19:27:26 GMT
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I'm back. It's still alive 2500miles later, feels good man.
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Sept 1, 2011 13:32:42 GMT
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good times! Now get modifying! lol
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You're like a crazy backyard genius!
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Sept 2, 2011 22:03:24 GMT
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wichard=legend. You cetrainly don't give up easily!
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Nothing worse than a smashed engine.
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