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Worst car you owned ?Mercdan68
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After following Hotwire and rmad thread in the best car you owned I’m interested in what was the worst and why?? And please let’s keep it friendly and and give thought to people that Like….well mk3 cortinas , god I hated this mk3 GT I bought absolutely horrid car, handled like a jelly on ice and was well just plain ugly in my humble opinion I just couldn’t get rid quick enough Nice and tidy but it just didn’t do it for me
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Last Edit: Dec 8, 2021 19:25:00 GMT by Mercdan68
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The Doctor
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Worst car you owned ?The Doctor
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Suzuki Cappuccino. Swapped it with a car I had, drove it home. Discovered some rust i didn't spot when buying the car (stupid of me). Discovered more and more rust and bodges. Scrapped it after driving it only 180 miles.
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Toss up between a vauxhall Firenza 1256 and a bay window camper, the Firenza was actually left on the end of my drive all night with the window down and the keys in the ignition and STILL didn't get stolen. The camper was a project, when buying bits of an enthusiastic dealer who was keen to know if I liked it, and was told not much. He told me I'd feel differently when I drove it. He was right, I hated it. It went asap
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Rob M
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Worst car you owned ?Rob M
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This. I bought it, in around, 2008 when prices for them were not idiotic. Quite possibly the biggest piece of cack I ever shelled out hard earned money for. That was an ebay 'buy blind' purchase, a purchase I should have walked away from and jumped back on the train in South London back to Norfolk. Worse than described, it was only when I got into it and started to drive away in it that the drone from the axle made itself known. By then the seller had scarpered, yes, the deal was done on the street, stupid me! Even with a replacement axle fitted, it drove like sh*te, handled like sh*te and the ergonomics of a knees into your chin and a long gearstick with a crappy gearchange did not endear me to it. I just don't get the adulation for them, never will. That is just my opinion, I mean, Dan hates MK3 Cortina's and I love em!!
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A Mk3 Ford Escort.
It was more rust than steel and it attempted to immolate itself with me in it on my way home one day. It remains the first and last time I've been in a car on fire. Not that I was in it very long.
I still have lots of happy memories attached to it though.
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I've had a few bad cars and the worst depends on what criteria your are using.
The most disappointing was a 1999 S-Type Jag 3.0 Manual which was a great car to drive but stuff kept going wrong with it and I ended up spending a lot of time and money fixing it (and it was only 5 years old when I bought it). I did love the car and the later S-Types I had were much more reliable.
The most unreliable ever was a 1996 Alfa Spider, beautiful to look at (although mine was a bit battered) but everytime I drove it something went wrong with it and when I bought it had no reverse gear (something that the garage I bought it from forgot to mention and I didn't notice as it was always parked facing forwards when I went to see it and collect it!).
The most technically poor was probably a Rover 216 Cabriolet which had terrible scuttle shake and very clearly they hadn't installed enough stiffening in it when it was designed. It was a shame because I had other cars from the same series with a solid roof and they were fantasic (214, 420 and a 220 Tomcat).
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2005 Peugeot 307cc, the electrics did whatever they wanted whenever they wanted. I walked up to it after work one day, pressed the key button to open the roof, it went down then up then halfway down and stopped all the while this was happening the electric seats are going forwards against the stops. It only lasted 4 months before I rejected it. Worst bike was a 2002 Ducati 748S in Grey with red Marchesini wheels, you only needed to walk past it with a glass of water for it to breakdown, I washed it carefully once and it cost me £400. Nothing beat the noise of the carbon Termignonis though, even if it was £300 for a service and £600 for a cambelt and valve service.
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Probably my Mini 25. I needed a "new" car as my then current Mini was an unreliable piece of excrement. In true enthusiast fashion I drove 60 miles to buy a "cheap" car from the Free Ads with no pictures and of course there were issues that should have made me turn around and walk away. V5 not in the guy's name so probably a back street trader, spare wheel was a bald 10" tyre for a 12" wheel car, the car had a vinyl roof, cheapie Halfords mirrors, stripes were in the wrong place and the speedo under-read massively (Metro engine or gearbox). Plus the guy was big and scary and had a massive snake in his house. Yet somehow I still bought it for £700 (back in 1996). The boot seal did nothing of the sort, the windscreen ALWAYS leaked, and then there was the weird thing with the rear suspension in the final year I owned it: it sort of collapsed, but even a new knuckle joint and donut still made it sit lower on one side than it should than it should. I could never figure it out. After 2 1/2 years and 25k miles I sold it as an ongoing project for £225 as the MOT was looming. Oh, and did I mention RUST? The 25 was one of the many silver Minis from the mid 1980s that literally fell apart as you looked at them. Doors, wings, roof, sills, boot floor, they rotted everywhere - maybe there was something really rough under the vinyl roof! The guy who bought it (in the dark in February!) tried to get me to take it back the day after because it wasn't as good as he thought. Caveat Emptor is a wonderful phrase... Eventually it changed hands at least twice more before going to a Ministox racer who presumably destroyed it round the ovals. I never did fix the boot seal, or the speedo.
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Last Edit: Dec 8, 2021 23:20:13 GMT by mrbounce
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I ended up with a once very well known black skoda s110r, on VW centreline alloys, sitting on it's bump stops as someone hacksawed all the springs. It looked achingly cool but drove like a broken toaster. the driveshafts were only about 1inch inside the cups and they would slip in and out often - It couldn't be driven on any MOT ramp so I just stuck it in freeads and sold it on.
The point it had to go was when I picked off a bit of plastic from the heavily discolored rear light clusters, and the entire front of the cover disintigrated into yellowish dust. The real kick in the teeth was a contact who worked at skoda had a mate in yugoslavia who collected skodas and was given my address, and he sent a replacement over. The postage had not been very kind to this package and all that was inside was lumps of plastic and yellowish dust ....
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Some 9000's, a 900, an RX8 & a beetle
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Not a retro, but my auction E90 320d put me off BMWs for good. On the plus side, it did teach me to be more cautious and sceptical when buying a car.
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Early '80s Holden Gemini purchased for far too much from a dealer in Invercargill in 1995. It was an absolute pos. We didn't have it very long. The best thing my ex-wife ever did was spin it out on a rainy night in Dunedin and slam it backwards into something immovable collapsing the whole of the boot up against the back seat. In hindsight we ought to have kept the Mk3 Cortina 2000E that preceded it but at the time it was just another old car that was worth nothing.
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Suzuki Cappuccino. Swapped it with a car I had, drove it home. Discovered some rust i didn't spot when buying the car (stupid of me). Discovered more and more rust and bodges. Scrapped it after driving it only 180 miles. What is the yellow car in the background?
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Some 9000's, a 900, an RX8 & a beetle
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Suzuki Cappuccino. Swapped it with a car I had, drove it home. Discovered some rust i didn't spot when buying the car (stupid of me). Discovered more and more rust and bodges. Scrapped it after driving it only 180 miles. What is the yellow car in the background? Lupo/Arosa?
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In terms of worst car, I don't really have one, ive never paid more than 700 for a car so at that price range unreliability and issues come with the territory. If I were to pick one, it would be the current Mondeo ST TDCi, which at 700 was the most expensive car I've bought, but at that price is/was breaker territory for these. Really wanted one, this was the only one driving and moted in my budget. Was scruffy when I bought it, snapped a spring on the way home, the drivers window snapped a cable before I even left. Within 6 months it had 4 new shocks and springs, pads and discs all round, exhaust front to back, tyres all round, the aux belt tensioner and crank pulley (needs doing again), 3 wheel bearings - wasn't 4 cos it had one for its MOT but they were all noisy if not worn. Breakdown wise, it developed an issue where the starter just wouldn't work if it was hot, and a power steering pipe exploded. Pretty much all the money spent was fixing someone's lack of maintenance so I can't really knock it. Touch wood it's been great since. I've spent more on it than a good one would have been, but I couldn't afford a good one, and did jobs as an when I could so I know they've been done. Due a service now as well. I know it's not retro BTW, but these came out 20 years ago now, which I still cant believe.
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Objectively worst and the ones I've liked the least are two very different questions!
You could argue that the X1/9 that is loud, noisy, windows don't seal, gearchange is nasty (one I made, need to make it better), took a year to fix up and still needs a boatload of work, and is currently dead from headgasket failure (my fault) is the worst. But I like it.
You could argue the BX which is a clattery smelly old diesel that snapped its clutch cable at a thoroughly inconvenient time and has shocking paintwork is the worst. But I like it.
You could argue that the XJ40 that similarly died of headgasket failure (my fault again), nearly bankrupted my when I was earning just above minimum wage, had a diff I swapped in that whined horribly (before I learnt you need to shim CROWNwheels to get correct tooth mesh) was the worst. But I like it.
You could argue that the Triumph 2000 I overpaid for that turned out to have a gearbox that buckets out oil, a rusty windscreen frame so if it rains your feet get wet, has no interior so it's louder inside than out, and has a rear hub with 6mm of in-out play is the worst. But I like it.
I think the car I've liked the least was probably my first car, a 2002 1.2 Vauxhall Corsa. It never broke, was economical, and got me mobile as a teen. Sterling service, but it just didn't really do much else.
Or maybe the E46 330i I bought off my mate to flip. It was a fine enough car, very quick indeed, but the throttle response was abysmal. It was clearly mapped for economy where you get very little throttle movement unless you stamp on it and it all comes at once. I'm sure that's easily mappable out, but considering the rave reviews it gets I expected it to be a bit better in standard form.
I've not owned any properly modern cars, but any that I've driven have been even worse than the above two. Numb and non-linear-feeling steering and throttle response. Sound deadened to oblivion. Can't see anything out of the windows so reversing is catastrophic and blind spots on the motorway are huge. No space inside them despite being enormous. They're sensory deprivation boxes and I dislike them greatly.
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Has to be this, which was a waste of £250 and a trip to Reading: I've had a lot of Capris, including a couple of <£100 ones, and this was the worst. It had been in a damp garage for two years, so was pretty crusty in all the usual places. It needed replacement master and wheel cylinders before it could be driven. And it didn't do that very well; everything was noisy and tired. I bought it to fit a 360Mopar, but ended up scrapping it when the second MOT was due. Second worst car was a 1.8GDI Legnum
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Triumph Dolomite Sprint.
Not too bad rust wise. On the outside - took me ages to work out the random cessation of motion was casued by a flake of rust in the boot mounted petrol tank blocking the pipe . .
Brakes were curse word even after full refurb. then the servo diaphragm broke and jammed the master cylinder, holding the brakes on the commute home . . . that was minutes after the clutch slave failed . . . so I was struggling to move until the brakes faded and caught fire when most of the way home . . .
Water leaked in around the very distorted bolt in transmission cover.
Good not get a pair of carb isolator mounts that didn't crack and leak after a few months, so it usually ran terrible, even after the rust flakes were sorted.
It did not like corners - or rather it did, but the frantic spinning of the thin rimmed steering wheel to try to catch the back end was less fun . . .
ALways liked the look of them, and still do, but compared to the Lancia Betas of similar vintage I'd owned, it was terrible
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Googled image, but one of these: It was fitted with the old skoda 1.3 iron-block engine. Slow to the point of being dangerous in my opinion. Also noisy, crashy, damp, and handled like a shopping trolley full of coal. Its only real saving grace was that it was cheap. I imagine it would have been marginally better in VAG 1.6 or 1.9d guise.
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1986 BMW 628csi, 2003 Alfa Romeo 147, 1992 Jaaaaag XJ40, 1982 BMW R100 cafe racer.
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Early Fiat X1/9.
Had it “inspected” by two mates as I was working all the hours at the time. They ok’d it and the PO delivered it - in the dark.
It was very cheap due to a loom fire under the dash. What had not been reported was the loom fire was caused by a welding attempt. Damn that thing was rusty. Really, truly, deeply rotten. Other issues included a gear linkage that could be politely described as obstructive an alternator that didn’t charge and brakes that pulled in all directions randomly. I didn’t discover any of this (apart from the rust) until after I’d invested many hours sorting the wiringThis was in the late 80s and spares were really difficult to find. Luckily I found an enthusiast quite locally with a collection of them and a garage full of spares. He had a front loom from a 1300 of the same age so we thought all would be good. However, problem no. 1 was that the fire damage included the front part of the rear loom and the joining plug (along with throttle cable) and problem no. 2 was that the colours on the new loom were entirely different from the original and neither matched the Haynes manual…….
I did eventually get everything working, but it was a mission. My not entirely legal first drive took place late at night in a Dorset village and I was most concerned to discover half the local constabulary out in the village……. As it turned out they were busy raiding the pub for after hours drinking and not at all interested in me but it gave me a nasty fright, as did the car trying to attack the hedge (either side, apparently at random) whenever I braked.
I fixed the brakes simply by stripping every caliper and cleaning them up and freeing them off. Breaking every bleed nipple in the process…..
Did quite a bit of welding. Took it for mot. Came back and did alot more welding. Finally it passed.
Then the biggest disappointment of all. It was sooooo slooooow……. Engine wonderfully sweet sounding and free revving but gutless. My 1500 swapped Herald was very much quicker….. Drove it around for a bit but couldn’t get to love it, or even like it, so it got sold. It sold easily, possibly because I didn’t have the cheek to ask a lot for it. I broke even in purely cash terms but the hours……. I lost big on the hours.
Danced in the drive when it left and haven’t owned another Italian since…
Nick
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1967 Triumph Vitesse convertible (old friend) 1996 Audi A6 2.5 TDI Avant (still durability testing) 1972 GT6 Mk3 (Restored after loong rest & getting the hang of being a car again)
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The Doctor
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Worst car you owned ?The Doctor
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What is the yellow car in the background? Lupo/Arosa? Less interesting, early 90s Toyota Starlet with the sideskirts pulled off.
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