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OK, it is not a beautiful design, it is not in standard form a B road masterpiece, but the engine is lots of fun, is it a smallish wolf in sheep’s clothing. I bought one a few days ago, I’m liking it, especially when you get to 6000rpm, it is not going to be cocooned and cosseted hoping for a monumental rise in prices, waiting for the masses to run at me with huge wads of cash, begging for a Corolla t sport. So, yay or nay ? 😁  |
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I remember one of these coming in as P/X against a new Focus ST when I worked for a Ford main dealer about 13 years ago. None of us were particularly interested in it but it was in such good condition that we stuck it on the forecourt. I sold it and then had to take it to another branch to get the MOT done. I was amazed by the way it pulled past 6k and was very impressed with it!
Never owned one myself but they’re always a car that’s been on my radar.
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stealthstylz
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I could never work out why they weren't as fast as they should be. The engine is a peach. Must have been a bit overweight or something.
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I've had a facelift T-Sport and a T-Sport Kompressor (should never have sold this one), both great cars. The engine benefits massively from breathing mods. Only thing to keep an eye on is oil and the lift bolts, poor maintenance can see them wear down and not be as effective - they are an easy diy job though.
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I could never work out why they weren't as fast as they should be. The engine is a peach. Must have been a bit overweight or something. Weights between them and mk4 golf 1.8t, focus st170 are all pretty close, t sport has higher top end and better bhp per tonne, from what I am reading the real 0-60 is usually better than the factory quoted time 😄 |
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I've had a facelift T-Sport and a T-Sport Kompressor (should never have sold this one), both great cars. The engine benefits massively from breathing mods. Only thing to keep an eye on is oil and the lift bolts, poor maintenance can see them wear down and not be as effective - they are an easy diy job though. Lift bolts have been ordered, I’ll do the oil and filter at the same time 👍 |
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I had one a couple years ago which was a daily driver/track car, I thought it was great laugh, if a little at odds with itself  The engine is great but the high lift cam crossover point is too high which makes it harder to keep on cam when shifting, Lotus set the point a bit lower (5700 rpm from memory) which I would have liked to try. The steering is a bit light, and the suspension is a bit soft but some lowering springs did help. Seats needed more bolstering for track work  A K&N Typhoon intake makes the VVTLi crossover sound ace, and with a non stock exhaust, they do scream along quite nicely. I liked mine but found it pretty gutless to drive about on the base cam, which made it a bit annoying for daily driving in traffic Still, I reckon its an interesting, left field, cheaper, alternative to EP3's and 182's, and as more and more get broken for their engines to go into MR2's they're becoming increasingly rare. (Though I'd love to try a 2ZZ in my lighter Yaris T Sport...) |
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I could never work out why they weren't as fast as they should be. The engine is a peach. Must have been a bit overweight or something. Weights between them and mk4 golf 1.8t, focus st170 are all pretty close, t sport has higher top end and better bhp per tonne, from what I am reading the real 0-60 is usually better than the factory quoted time 😄 Possibly, ive had a few do's with em the past and they've never seemed to be in the ballpark of what a 190bhp hatch should be. Can you fit that engine in a Mk1 Yaris? |
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Weights between them and mk4 golf 1.8t, focus st170 are all pretty close, t sport has higher top end and better bhp per tonne, from what I am reading the real 0-60 is usually better than the factory quoted time 😄 Possibly, ive had a few do's with em the past and they've never seemed to be in the ballpark of what a 190bhp hatch should be. Can you fit that engine in a Mk1 Yaris? Well they did make a 1.8sr Yaris, anything is possible |
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1.8 yaris is newer one (gen 2?)
2zz in an MR2 rocks!
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I could never work out why they weren't as fast as they should be. The engine is a peach. Must have been a bit overweight or something. I've been lucky enough to drive a few "hot" cars built from 2005 to 2015, ish. I often found they didn't seem to have any legs and that they'd been fitted with short gearboxes to make them seem quicker than they actually were. Loads seemed to fall flat as you get nearer to three figures on the speedo (I'm told). To be honest though, not many people are going to realise that and have plenty of fun between bends on a-roads or "fizzy" town driving instead and there's nothing wrong with that. I've no data or spec checking to back this up by the way. It's just how fast hatches and coupes around that time felt to me. |
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Two friends had one, one had a standard T sport 190BHP was a cracking daily, other friend had the supercharged compressor model, although only 215bhp ish i think? so not much more from the non supercharged but was an awesome car, sounded nice, was faultless in the time he had it and it had i think 130k ish on it when he got rid.
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They should have looked like that from the factory! I think that was part of the issue. They had an image problem. They always seemed a bit soft and OAPish. I think because of that they never really got the aftermarket support like the contemporary hot hatches did. Tom |
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I think the expression 'at odds with itself' sums it up really. Great little cars and I think part of the appeal, for me at any rate, is the very anonymous nature of the design. I'd have one. It doesn't shout, it just gets on with what it does and does it very well.
That's the essence of a Corolla really.
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40mm lower and 17"s instead of 16"s makes a huge difference for sure.
The Pre-facelift looks very similar to the base Corollas, the facelift did help make it look a bit more "Performance". It did always feel like they spent most of the budget on a pretty racy engine but forgot about the rest of the car
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I like the anonymous looks, take a pinch of astra, add a bit of golf, hey presto Corolla, I am going to lower it an inch or so and free a bit more airflow.
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A friend of mine had one as a company car - it was a replacement for something like an A Class Merc so when she first pressed the loud pedal it gave her a bit of a shock. She loved it, and cried when it had to go back.
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