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Anyone know the section of law / BIVA rule etc that covers suicide doors ? For easier access (I have leg / mobility problems) I'm considering them for my car and already understand that due to "modified monocoque" BIVA will be required. I'm thinking of using the suicide rear door lock off a FX4 black cab but aren't sure if it'd be suitable for the fronts.
Thanks.
Paul H
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L33 RWW
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I know strictly speaking there would be mods to the monocoque but surely you wouldn't struggle with an inspection due to the fact you wouldn't really be taking any strength from the structure? Could always go for lambo doors
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fogey
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I know strictly speaking there would be mods to the monocoque but surely you wouldn't struggle with an inspection due to the fact you wouldn't really be taking any strength from the structure? Could always go for lambo doors Interesting one - as doors aren't actually part of the monocoque but bolted on panels . . However, the problem is that if it needs testing then it isn't just the door change that would be tested - everything else would have to conform to current regs as well.
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Last Edit: Apr 7, 2013 21:49:34 GMT by fogey
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Current Rollers have suicide doors. There must a way to have them meet current reg.
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Unfortunatley the door apperture will be enlarged meaning the A post modified so accept from the start BIVA necessary. Lambo doors not an option - there is no roof as it's a convertible (my 1972 Austin Sprite) :-) There was a conversion available at one time for Spridgets that had a lengthened door that intruded into the A post and even the edge of the wing but looks strange. I'm CONSIDERING modifiying the whole car along the lines of a Dragonfly conversion and having suicide doors at same time.
Paul H
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unitybonez
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If you push the post further back, strenghten it, and hinge the doors there, it would be sturdier than before, and if done well enuff no one will know its a modification, as many old cars had suicide doors, maybe not 70s cars, but still Its not like its some crazy modification that will be noticable right away, and it sure wont make the car a danger to you or others, so just go on and screw the burocracy. I hope no one is offended by my words.
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Sent from my ouiji board.
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Funny how you have a good nights sleep and wake up with new / different ideas ! Today, although I might change my mind tomorrow, I'm thinking that I might as well leave the Sprite alone (my 16.75 year old daughter wants it restored for her 21st) and find a rolling chassis to build from scratch my ideal car - MGTC style special that incorporates suicide doors. Keep chassis 100% original along with the other running gear so no BIVA applicable. Already bidding on something from early 50's that ticks the boxes. Using a scrap, say, MGB shell for "cockpit sections that would mean "off the shelf" windscreen & hood usable - the area that often caused the most problem with homebuilt bodies. Panther Lima used Spridget cockpit section - well doors and windscreen anyway. Paul H
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Funny how you have a good nights sleep and wake up with new / different ideas ! Today, although I might change my mind tomorrow, I'm thinking that I might as well leave the Sprite alone (my 16.75 year old daughter wants it restored for her 21st) and find a rolling chassis to build from scratch my ideal car - MGTC style special that incorporates suicide doors. Keep chassis 100% original along with the other running gear so no BIVA applicable. Already bidding on something from early 50's that ticks the boxes. Paul H Good plan! Btw, depending on what you want to build, I'm very much of the opinion that a Riley RM 1 1/2 litre (so RMA or RME) rolling chassis & mechanicals would make an excellent basis for a non BIVA applicable special / custom / hot rod. Very good suspension & steering for the era (torsion bar IFS & r&p steering), and knackered (i.e. beyond viable restoration) examples are not expensive.
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