|
|
May 23, 2006 18:43:59 GMT
|
Ive seen a lada with golf distributer. I think its off a mkii GTI engine, but I'm not sure, it was the dizzy, wiring and little ignition module. The car was not fuel injected... Does anyone know what model this could have been from and how hard it could be to wire. I know i would need to make the dizzy fit, thats not so hard.. You can just see it in this pic. On a lada the dizzy mounts and is held like on a mini, not like on my bros golf. thanks
|
|
|
|
|
Stu
Posted a lot
Posts: 2,913
|
|
May 23, 2006 19:22:05 GMT
|
Older 8v VW engines tend to have the dizzy mounted like that, driven off an intermediate shaft rather than the exhaust camshaft like on the 16v versions. If you are sure it's off a Mk2 then it'll most likely be from an 8v GTI. Does it have points or electronic ignition, and does it use vacuum advance? You can see the dizzy on my Mk1 here (1500 8v, non-GTI), looks pretty similar mounting wise...
|
|
'89 BMW E30 325i Sport, '04 MINI Cooper S, '09 Volvo V70 D5
|
|
|
|
May 23, 2006 19:53:07 GMT
|
hi stu! Made it to Czech BTW )))) Anyway, it had electronic dizzy, aparently it had knock sensor in it, but I'm not sure... there is a little ignition module you can see on the inner wing, and it had those plug leads that have metal covers about 4" long with springs on the end.
|
|
|
|
|
|
May 23, 2006 20:00:39 GMT
|
oh also, he said something about it being a golf gt dizzy, is said gti and he said no, but he was czech and i could not understnad him
|
|
|
|
|
|
May 23, 2006 20:16:22 GMT
|
does it use vacuum advance? you can just see the vacuum capsule in the pic. couldn't say what its off, looks awfully bocsh to me, like my bmw 318 dizzy, in fact
|
|
|
|
|
|
May 23, 2006 20:21:49 GMT
|
how does a bmw dizzy mount? I'm 100% sure its from a golf of some type.
|
|
|
|
Stu
Posted a lot
Posts: 2,913
|
|
May 23, 2006 21:46:03 GMT
|
Golf GT is an 1800cc carb version of the Mk2, similar to the GTI but with carb and 90bhp instead of injection and 112bhp, don't think they made them for the UK. I expect the dizzy would be the same from a UK Golf 1.8 driver, GL, CL etc. I would think 1.6 8v Mk2's wouldn't be much different either to be honest. Doubt it'd have a knock sensor in it, did he mean a hall effect sender maybe, they have those? Late Mk2 8v's do have a knock sensor to tell the ECU to retard the timing for low grade petrol but I'm sure it's on the block rather than the dizzy? Could be wrong, it's been a while since I had one!
|
|
'89 BMW E30 325i Sport, '04 MINI Cooper S, '09 Volvo V70 D5
|
|
|
|
May 23, 2006 21:55:49 GMT
|
that s a point, it never had a brian.
does this carb mount like a mini one? i wonder if they tooka grinder too it to make it like the lada one...
|
|
|
|
|
|
May 23, 2006 22:30:23 GMT
|
you may find the BMW and golf ones are the same item (or similar) as they both run Bosch Digifant (or do they?)
|
|
|
|
|
Dizzy golf!DarrenW
@darrenw
Club Retro Rides Member 74
|
May 23, 2006 22:32:01 GMT
|
Some Golfs (like mine) run K-Jet and some run Digifant, but I don't know which specifically
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
May 24, 2006 10:17:30 GMT
|
maybe it would be a good idea for me to give someone like awesome gti a call, does any one know their number?
|
|
|
|
qwerty
Club Retro Rides Member
Posts: 2,417
Club RR Member Number: 52
|
Dizzy golf!qwerty
@qwerty
Club Retro Rides Member 52
|
May 24, 2006 10:45:44 GMT
|
Golf GT is an 1800cc carb version of the Mk2, similar to the GTI but with carb and 90bhp instead of injection and 112bhp, don't think they made them for the UK. Is this not the same engine thats in a Scirocco GT with a Carb?
|
|
|
|
|
|
May 24, 2006 11:16:30 GMT
|
ah, just phoned aweosme.
the guy said that it sounds like the 8v mkiii golf dizzy, aparently they have a brain, but it only suplies a 12v feed to the module.
Does this sound right to everyone else before i go searching for the parts?
|
|
|
|
Stu
Posted a lot
Posts: 2,913
|
|
May 24, 2006 21:46:04 GMT
|
Golf GT is an 1800cc carb version of the Mk2, similar to the GTI but with carb and 90bhp instead of injection and 112bhp, don't think they made them for the UK. Is this not the same engine thats in a Scirocco GT with a Carb? Yep think so. Not sure on Awesome's advice to be honest, they should know what they're talking about though. If you search on ClubGTI.com's forum I'm sure there will be some specific info on the different dizzy's there. How come you want to fit a Golf dizzy to your Lada, does it offer some advantage over the standard one? By the way, if you are scrapyard hunting, all 16v Mk2's are k-jet injection (mechanical) like Mk2 8v's up to around '88, after that the 8v's are digifant (electronic) injection.
|
|
'89 BMW E30 325i Sport, '04 MINI Cooper S, '09 Volvo V70 D5
|
|
|
|
May 24, 2006 22:02:21 GMT
|
www.clubgti.com/forum/showthread.php?t=91638LOL! thanks stu! well, i don't really know the advantages of this dizzy, if i can find out what it is exactly, i can ask questions and research it. i know my cam needs to have 36 deg of advance at >4,000 revs, with the lada dizzy i can get the advance, but it will not start, it fires just before tdc and stops the starter turning the engine. i need more advance to make it start and rev properly. I know i can get mappable ignition, but i don't see teh point spending the money when all Czech lada owners find this system ok... ill be round soon mate to see the blue one in action saw dave today, i think he likes my car )))
|
|
|
|
|
|
May 25, 2006 15:20:35 GMT
|
well, just got off the phone from TSR Performance, guy was very helpful, he said it sounds very very much like a mki GTI dizzy...
he also said that the loom for the dizzy is seperate, its on a multiplug, and has a little module on the loom also.
It will give 42 deg of advance at 6,000! fantastic!!1!!
so the next question is, does anyone have a dizzy, module and loom for sale?
|
|
|
|
Stu
Posted a lot
Posts: 2,913
|
|
May 25, 2006 19:00:01 GMT
|
Interesting stuff, sounds like the Mk1 dizzy is just what you need then! I'm sure someone on ClubGTI will have one knocking around spare after doing an engine conversion on a Mk1 GTI to make it 16v or 20v etc. From looking in my Haynes manual there is a separate little module for the electronic ignition, presumably that is what you're after. Not sure on the Mk1 but on the Mk2 it's mounted up in the scuttle panel near the wiper motor. My brother in law has just got a black Mk1 GTI so I'll have a look and let you know, probably take a photo of the bits you're after and maybe get part numbers if it helps?
|
|
Last Edit: May 25, 2006 19:00:49 GMT by Stu
'89 BMW E30 325i Sport, '04 MINI Cooper S, '09 Volvo V70 D5
|
|
|
|
May 25, 2006 20:39:41 GMT
|
bloody hell, there is a lad around the corner just like you mate!
thanks for the info and the manual.
ill phone the guy who built my engine next and see if he has more info on the advance etc.
|
|
|
|