teaboy
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Mar 17, 2023 22:42:16 GMT
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It has not been a brilliant week this week. Nothing really major, just things. Some of those things prevented me from getting into the tent on Wednesday and Thursday. I didn't have much time or energy tonight but I did want to get that bit of sill finished, so that's what I did. It wasn't much of a job, I just finished cleaning up the welds then went on the look out for pin holes to fill up. There were only a couple, despite it being a not particularly neat upside down welding job. Actually, the whole job didn't turn out quite as nicely as the other side but it is not too bad. Don't pay any notice to the huge hole in the floor, I'm ignoring that for the moment... The front is not 100% straight. It all gets covered by a massive lump of plastic anyway, so I will probably get away with it. I've daubed it in spooge just to protect it until it gets painted. The Doc has mentioned that the front hedges are looking a bit untidy which means she expects me to cut them tomorrow. Mothers day on Sunday so I will be going to Doncaster to see my mum. It doesn't look like I'm going to have much chance of getting into the tent this weekend. Cheers.
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teaboy
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Mar 20, 2023 21:14:45 GMT
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It doesn't look like I'm going to have much chance of getting into the tent this weekend. The weekend went as expected. Almost as expected because the lovely Doctor had threatened to help me with the tidy up of the hedge cuttings but, due to reasons beyond her control, she was unable to. This meant that I had to do it on my own. I had perhaps neglected the hedge somewhat because I ended up taking about a foot and a half off the front of it. This means that even Bruce Bogtrotter would be able to walk along the path now. Cutting it was hard enough because my petrol powered hedge trimmer soon starts to get very heavy but clearing up the mess afterwards was even more of a pain. I ended up loading it all into dozens of bags ready for a run to the tip. I really don't like gardening, my back was in bits by the time I had done all that so even if it wasn't mothers day on Sunday I probably wouldn't have made it into the tent. Back to reality today so what is the next step? I want to get some epoxy on the jacking points before I use them to support the car for axle removal but there is that hole in the floor right next to it. It would make sense to sort that and to paint it at the same time. Inside the cab it looks like this. It is covered in that horrible to remove tar board. I made a start on it and then got to this lump of sealer which fills a drain slot. The one on the other side floor had rotted out, hopefully this one wouldn't be as bad. There was a bit of rust starting to creep under there but it wasn't too bad. After an hour of scraping it looked like this. It took another hour of scrubbing to get it semi-presentable. This is the heel panel, it has rusted where the fuel tank strap bracket was fixed on the other side. It is nowhere near as bad as it was on the driver's side, which is a bit of a relief. Two hours leaning into the cab has broken my back again but at least I wasn't gardening. Despite spending eighteen quid in the creamy bun shop on Saturday there are none left. I'm not saying that the mother-in-law has eaten them all but... Cheers.
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teaboy
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Mar 21, 2023 20:22:14 GMT
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Hello there. This was how I left it last night. First thing was to take out that round platey thing. It was a bit more awkward than I expected because there was seam sealer between the two pieces but my stainless steel slicey openy thing sorted that out. I had a look underneath and the rust had spread under the sealant quite a way. I've marked on top how far I need to go. The picture doesn't really show what a horrible shape this is going to be to reproduce. There are lots of uppy and downy bits, some of which are also curvy as well, just to make it a bit more awkward. There is also the foldy lippy bit where it goes under the heel panel. I tried to make a template. The paper ended up with lots of folds and creases in it and it looked like it would be quite difficult to make a piece of metal do that without also getting folds and creases in places where we don't need folds and creases. I looked at it for a bit and thought that maybe I could make it out of a few bits of metal and join them together. I started making a smaller template. I wasn't keen on that either, so I got a cup of tea and looked at it a bit more and scratched my head. It needs a bit more contemplation because I still haven't worked out how I'm going to make it. I am now inside the house looking at pictures of it, still drinking tea and still scratching my head. How would you do it? Oh, the lovely Doctor is semi-convinced that I spend most nights looking at 'Frankie Vaughan' on the internet. She doesn't believe that anyone would just look at pictures of rusty bits of metal... Cheers.
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Mar 21, 2023 20:44:36 GMT
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Hammer form it? Router the shape into some wood (or chisel) then wack some metal in to it.
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teaboy
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Mar 21, 2023 21:18:35 GMT
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Hammer form it? Router the shape into some wood (or chisel) then wack some metal in to it. That's a good plan, cheers.
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427za
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Mar 22, 2023 18:11:29 GMT
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Find a scrapper and cut out the bit you need?
Possibly cheating a bit considering the effort and skill you’ve put into this, sorry!
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teaboy
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Mar 23, 2023 20:31:13 GMT
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Hammer form it? Router the shape into some wood (or chisel) then whack some metal in to it. I think hammer forming is the way, I'm not that good at woodwork though. Find a scrapper and cut out the bit you need? Possibly cheating a bit considering the effort and skill you’ve put into this, sorry! I would use bits from a scrapper, Just have not had the opportunity to go and find them. Last night was the pub quiz, we won yay! Tonight I went into the tent with a bit of a plan. Part one, cut out the bit. This is what it looks like. That is a bit bigger than the standard grommet hole. I don't fancy trying to repair the original bit because it is a bit rusty. This view shows the uppy downyness of it, or is that the foldy lippy bit? I forget. Anyway, the plan is to make a hammer form tool. As I am not a woodwork expert I am not going to attempt to make a wooden former, I am going to mould it in fibreglass as I have done previously. In order to take a mould of the piece, first I need to fill up the gaping hole in it. With tape. Like so. Actually that was just to give me something on which to daub the fibreglass. When it was cured it looked like this. But the other side looked like this. Which I sanded and shaped. Now it was 'repaired' I had something to take a mould from for my hammer form. Except that I didn't do that. Because as I was sanding it I started thinking that actually, I think that it would work nicer if I was to be hammer forming into the side that I had just spent ages sanding. That means that I really should have repaired the other side of the piece and all the stuff that I had been doing tonight was, in fact, a total waste of time. So I wire wheeled the fibreglass down then smothered it in paint stripper. Once I had removed all evidence of everything I had just done, I taped it up the other way round. Then I daubed it in fibreglass again. I stuck those two bits of scrap metal on there to give it a flattish surface to sit on when I start sanding it to shape, but that is a job for next time. Cheers.
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Darkspeed
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Mar 23, 2023 23:35:08 GMT
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Give this old boy a call - 555 Magneto - he is reported to be a bit a handy with metal forming and should have that sorted in no time. Just keep an eye out for old blokes in wheelchairs when he's working though, old magic fingers is a bit temperamental in that regard and he could throw the car, tent et al at one should they annoy him..... For some reason Silver mobility scooters get him really miffed. Probably had some old fart run into the back of his legs down the post office one Thursday.
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teaboy
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Mar 27, 2023 20:32:17 GMT
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I think that there is a conspiracy to stop me getting anything done, on the car at least. Friday at work everything went like a well planned military operation and I got home in very good time with lots of enthusiasm to get on with things. A quick cup of tea then in to the shed except I got a call to go to an emergency job before the kettle had even boiled. That meant that my early finish with lots of enthusiasm turned into a late finish with no enthusiasm left. Saturday I had to do other far less interesting things which consumed just about the entire day. Sunday morning I had to fix the dish washer which was far more of a pain than it really should have been. I did get a couple of hours in the afternoon. Last time I had laid on some goop onto the piece to repair it enough to make a mould. That was now well and truly dried out so I was able to sand it down ready for the mould. Once it was the right shape I covered it in packing tape. Then I decided to give myself a bit more area to work with so I taped some cardboard around the periphery. Once that was all ready I covered it in jam. When it was ready, I pulled it from the piece. It was reasonable but would need sanding down around where I had tacked the extra cardboard on. Whilst that was going off, I made a metal frame to both support it and to give me something to clamp it into the vice with The frame and the moulding got spooged together. Hopefully that will hold it together when I start smashing it with a hammer. This is what the top side looked like. Today after work I clamped it in the vice and sanded off all the traces of where the cardboard had been stuck around the edges. I've cut out a bit of tin to making the piece and put a couple of folds in it to get me started, and clamped it to the former. It is clamped on to the tool, roughly marked out and now waiting to be hammered. Tune in for even less excitement next time. I know how exciting this is because I fell asleep half way through typing it. Cheers.
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Mar 28, 2023 17:59:02 GMT
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Right, I've got my thingmy and it has a piece of metal clamped to it. It must be hammer time. After some bishing, some bashing and not to mention the boshing, I have this. I trimmed it down a bit closer to the size it needs to be and offered it up for a look. Hmmm, what do you think? I CBA to get on with fitting it tonight because it is wazzing down and I don't fancy carting all my gear down to the tent in this weather. A bientot mes amis. Cheers.
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Mar 28, 2023 18:10:46 GMT
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Personally, I think that looks pretty incredible. I was concerned about the fiberglass holding up to the bashing, but this is going in my bag of tricks for sure.
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Darkspeed
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Mar 28, 2023 19:47:41 GMT
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I think you have proven yet again that glassfibre is without doubt the best material for repairing steel cars with...........!
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Mar 28, 2023 20:09:54 GMT
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Absolutely brilliant!...I'm definitely going to try this method in future. I've done almost the same process with fibre glass to make a mould. But that was to then make a positive piece out of fibre glass....not to bash a piece of steel into! From the pictures it looks like it turned out a treat....nice one 👍🏻
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Mar 28, 2023 20:26:44 GMT
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Right, I've got my thingmy and it has a piece of metal clamped to it. It must be hammer time. After some bishing, some bashing and not to mention the boshing, I have this. I trimmed it down a bit closer to the size it needs to be and offered it up for a look. Hmmm, what do you think? I'm amazed - that really is impressive battering skills - can it be used to fabricate an oil tank
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Mar 28, 2023 21:32:58 GMT
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Hmmm, what do you think? When dealing with corroded tinwork like SWMBO's front bumper last weekend I always think WWTBD or 'What would Tea Boy do?' but instead of cutting, grinding, forming, fettling and welding I just fitted the pattern bumper I had hanging about so I feel a failure against your herculean efforts.
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Mar 28, 2023 22:34:37 GMT
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Hmmm, what do you think? When dealing with corroded tinwork like SWMBO's front bumper last weekend I always think WWTBD or 'What would Tea Boy do?' but instead of cutting, grinding, forming, fettling and welding I just fitted the pattern bumper I had hanging about so I feel a failure against your herculean efforts. On the plus side you had plenty of time to do other things that didn't involve being in a damp tent with a rusty M3 and a mig welder
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Brilliant work on the panel, I have to echo other comments, I didn't realise that fibreglass would / could take such hammer, (pardon the pun,) Nigel
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When dealing with corroded tinwork like SWMBO's front bumper last weekend I always think WWTBD or 'What would Tea Boy do?' but instead of cutting, grinding, forming, fettling and welding I just fitted the pattern bumper I had hanging about so I feel a failure against your herculean efforts. On the plus side you had plenty of time to do other things that didn't involve being in a damp tent with a rusty M3 and a mig welder I have one word for you Mr. Child : PUB!
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Mar 29, 2023 12:23:09 GMT
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'appen as like's cum out reet grand.
I'm actually surprised how well that worked. What's the mould look like now? Did it survive? (He's a witch! A witch I tell thee!)
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