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Love the XJ12. It looks a lot like my current toy (XJ6 S1), though in waaaay better condition! I missed one of these by 24 hrs over Christmas, I was gutted as its gone for racing now. I keep dallying with the idea of stuffing a V12 into mine, but I love the sound of the six better. I definitely want your leather seats! The XJ40 looks a good piece of kit too, I had a mate who always swore the 3.2S went better than the 4.0... Regards, Rich
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You have my two favourite Jags! I haven't seen an S1 V12 as good as that for a long time; it's in wonderful condition. It is exactly the same colour and spec (and age) to the one my parent's next door neighbour had when I was a child. They got it new and I remember riding in it in about 1975! The guy showed me the engine and I needed to stand on a wooden box to see it because I was so short! I have an Xj40 too - also a late 3.2, mine being made in October 1992. I love the thing. It is so much smoother than just about anything else I've been in and though it isn't as sporty as yours (it is a Sovereign) I don't mind since I'm not exactly sporting either. The 'S' models look the part though with their lower stance and the beautiful wheels. Yours is particularly nice. It is in one of the best colours and is in excellent condition too. Very nice!! The forum www.xj40.com is worth joining if you have an XJ40, if you're not there already. Here is my Sov. I have had it for years and it was once my dad's company car when dinosaurs roamed the Earth. It has been unbelievably reliable having only suffered a couple of minor faults in nearly 20 years! It has gone a bit rusty though, they like doing that... David
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Theres 1 mod I want though- A TWR or jaguarsport steering wheel. I was also happy the orignal purchaser orderd all the RIGHT options from new, doeskin leather, upper and lower (i don't like the black dash) steel sunroof , and cd changer and LSD! Ive got the list of options in the brochure and the purchaser has only taken the sporty options, no aircon elec seats ect. (S" comes with sperts seats anyway) Its the exact colour combo of the brochure too, so it must be right . The last propper jag? I'm with you on the steering wheel though! Mine has the same airbag wheel and its HORRIBLE! I think the old '40 is the last proper Jag in many ways - certainly an end-of-an-era car, and last of its type. The X300 may be slightly better engineered but it doesn't feel special like the '40 and the Jags which came before it like the 'series' cars.
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Thanks again! I did love the s1, but i wish it was a 6 cyl. The 6 does sound better, much better mpg and easy to work on. The early type 12s havent got much on a 4.2 anyway, putting out only 258hp from 5.3 ltrs. I sold it as there was no way i would ever enjoy 10-15mpg road trips. amazing car though, possibly the only car made with more carbs than gears?
dbdb- love that xj40, mint! i had a xj40 daimler sov once, but it was an early 3.6 on a D reg. loved it! Infact i love all jags (propper ones) there is nothing as smooth, and they make a top spec 7 series feel cheap. The S is in cracking condition, no rust or peeling laquer and the bumpers are mint. I think its rude not to own at least 1 given the current prices. I'm not on that forum, yet. I'm thinking about chopping in my 944 for a late xjs in the same colour as the 3.2s
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I know exactly what you mean about the 6 cylinder sounding better. There's something special about a 6 pot. Jags, BMWs, V6 fords etc just sound great. More a fan of straight 6 rather than V6
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Joined especially to say hello and show appreciation for the XJ40! Here's a shot of mine half way up the Stelvio Pass...
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Very cool, lousimchuge!!! I seem to think your magnificent beast is a 3.6 manual, isn't it? If so, then it is a rarity indeed and looks fab in the oh-so-period bronze. Great stuff!!
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Yeah, thats right, cheers dbdb!
A bit of Pistonheads / RR cross pollination!
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Quick pic of my series 1. Its in the naughty corner at the moment as the brake master cylinder failed yesterday. It's done 10,000 miles since May, so I'm not too peeved at it.. This was it at the Le Mans Classic in July last year. Its going back to see the regular Le Mans this year.
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Jeesus they are comming thick and fast now!
lousimchuge- epic pic mate and rare colour too!
Rich, i love it, as I'm sure you know- you don't see many series 1s.
As for my 3.2, ive broken the wiper motor, but i have found a J/S steering wheel. Does anyone know anything about bosses on airbag xj40s? iirc it has a removable sleeve?
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Theres 1 mod I want though- A TWR or jaguarsport steering wheel. I was also happy the orignal purchaser orderd all the RIGHT options from new, doeskin leather, upper and lower (i don't like the black dash) steel sunroof , and cd changer and LSD! Ive got the list of options in the brochure and the purchaser has only taken the sporty options, no aircon elec seats ect. (S" comes with sperts seats anyway) Its the exact colour combo of the brochure too, so it must be right . The last propper jag? I'm with you on the steering wheel though! Mine has the same airbag wheel and its HORRIBLE! I think the old '40 is the last proper Jag in many ways - certainly an end-of-an-era car, and last of its type. The X300 may be slightly better engineered but it doesn't feel special like the '40 and the Jags which came before it like the 'series' cars. I agree with you there, the 40 does have a certain Jagness, I think it was the last Jaguar that had the nod from Sir William Lyons. It was also designed back in the British Leyland years, by traditional Jaguar engineers. In fact, give the 40 a good poke over and you can see lots of Jaguar design traits, mechanically. On mine, being a very early 40, you can see British Leyland roundels stamped everywhere, engine castings, some plastics etc. They also suffer the traditional Jaguar maladies, rusting bootlids, rust, electrical problems, burning oil on the overrun, stuff that all Jags have done, for years. Mine tends to puff out some blue smoke on the over run, but, that's due to slightly perished stem seals, still, it adds character. Hardly uses any oil between services though. James
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I'm with you on the steering wheel though! Mine has the same airbag wheel and its HORRIBLE! I think the old '40 is the last proper Jag in many ways - certainly an end-of-an-era car, and last of its type. The X300 may be slightly better engineered but it doesn't feel special like the '40 and the Jags which came before it like the 'series' cars. I agree with you there, the 40 does have a certain Jagness, I think it was the last Jaguar that had the nod from Sir William Lyons. It was also designed back in the British Leyland years, by traditional Jaguar engineers. In fact, give the 40 a good poke over and you can see lots of Jaguar design traits, mechanically. On mine, being a very early 40, you can see British Leyland roundels stamped everywhere, engine castings, some plastics etc. They also suffer the traditional Jaguar maladies, rusting bootlids, rust, electrical problems, burning oil on the overrun, stuff that all Jags have done, for years. Mine tends to puff out some blue smoke on the over run, but, that's due to slightly perished stem seals, still, it adds character. Hardly uses any oil between services though. James Yes, so true! My '40 smokes on the overrun as well but uses no measurable amount of oil either, which is strange. It is common! They're very characterful cars and much more old school in feel than the X300. Here is the Leyland logo on an early AJ6 engine in an XJ40. One of several places they wear them. And Sir William Lyons monitoring progress. He did this frequently, I believe. David
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As for my 3.2, ive broken the wiper motor, but I have found a J/S steering wheel. Does anyone know anything about bosses on airbag xj40s? iirc it has a removable sleeve? I have not done it myself, but several people on xj40.com have fitted the Jaguar Sport steering wheel to airbag cars. It is a straight fit, providing the Jaguar Sport wheel came from an XJ40. They're a few threads on it, this is one I could find. Reply #5 confirms it. www.xj40.com/viewtopic.php?f=25&t=968&st=0&sk=t&sd=aDavid
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I agree with you there, the 40 does have a certain Jagness, I think it was the last Jaguar that had the nod from Sir William Lyons. It was also designed back in the British Leyland years, by traditional Jaguar engineers. In fact, give the 40 a good poke over and you can see lots of Jaguar design traits, mechanically. On mine, being a very early 40, you can see British Leyland roundels stamped everywhere, engine castings, some plastics etc. They also suffer the traditional Jaguar maladies, rusting bootlids, rust, electrical problems, burning oil on the overrun, stuff that all Jags have done, for years. Mine tends to puff out some blue smoke on the over run, but, that's due to slightly perished stem seals, still, it adds character. Hardly uses any oil between services though. James Yes, so true! My '40 smokes on the overrun as well but uses no measurable amount of oil either, which is strange. It is common! They're very characterful cars and much more old school in feel than the X300. Here is the Leyland logo on an early AJ6 engine in an XJ40. One of several places they wear them. And Sir William Lyons monitoring progress. He did this frequently, I believe. David I have a photo like that somewhere, took it when changing my cam cover gasket . Lyons kept a good eye on things, I think he was impressed with what was produced, sometimes in difficult industrial conditions. The AJ6 was apparently developed partly in secret, as BL wanted Jaguar to use the Rover V8. Jim Randle did say that he never tried to fit one to the engine bay, so could never comment on the rumour that went around, about the bay being deliberately narrower. He apparently said it wouldn't fit, but never tried it. May of, you never know. I intend to drag mine out of a slightly prolonged hibernation this year, I transferred my classic insurance (paid up until May 2011) from my Mercedes 300TE (sadly solkd ) to the XJ40, to provide some impertus to get it MOT'd. I've taken it twice, in the past 5 years and reduced the number of failures (silly things like bulbs and brake efficiency) each time, so, it should be good for a pass.
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I do actualy love jags. I if I could I would buy all the cheap ones I see. I don't know why, but the car appeals to me so much. It could be the feel and ride/silence of the car. It could be that I'm a classic car fan, and jags oooz true british classic feel and style without price. It may be that my grandfather who I was very close to (a racing car engineer, designer and builder for Elva, and R&D for vauxhall) always drove jags. It may be the sweeny style villans hooing about in old xj's and mk2s Maybe a mix of all of this, but whatever I do love them, I feel the cars charictor. And it may only be woth a few quid, but it throws out its status like it did when it was new, park it next to a 20k bmw and it still looks good.
It realy is tragic that jaguar went to so much cost and effort trying to build the best lux car of its time, and it got bad press for build quality.
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Can anyone conform that my leather is doeskin? i want to buy some dye for the h/brake and drivers seat... I think it is as the brochure states on flamenco red the interior comes in magnolia or doeskin, and the facia comes barley or doeskin. As my facia matches my interior, it must be doeskin?? My only doubt is that the brochure is 1993 and the car is 1994, it also states the wheels should be gold..
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I do actualy love jags. I if I could I would buy all the cheap ones I see. I don't know why, but the car appeals to me so much. It could be the feel and ride/silence of the car. It could be that I'm a classic car fan, and jags oooz true british classic feel and style without price. It may be that my grandfather who I was very close to (a racing car engineer, designer and builder for Elva, and R&D for vauxhall) always drove jags. It may be the sweeny style villans hooing about in old xj's and mk2s Maybe a mix of all of this, but whatever I do love them, I feel the cars charictor. And it may only be woth a few quid, but it throws out its status like it did when it was new, park it next to a 20k bmw and it still looks good. It realy is tragic that jaguar went to so much cost and effort trying to build the best lux car of its time, and it got bad press for build quality. They're 3 good videos, I enjoyed them. Old school Jags are like nothing else and are stupidly cheap now. The XJ40 received huge publicity and praise when it was launched - it was even covered by the 9 o'clock and Ten o'clock news as a major item; I can't think of another car which has. Sadly though, electrical niggles on the early cars swiftly earned a reputation for fragility. Jaguar sorted it out and later cars are very robust and reliable in my experience, but the British car buyer loves to hate British cars for some reason, so nothing is forgiven. That is one of the things I like about this site; a car does not have to be German here. David Can anyone conform that my leather is doeskin? I want to buy some dye for the h/brake and drivers seat... I think it is as the brochure states on flamenco red the interior comes in magnolia or doeskin, and the facia comes barley or doeskin. As my facia matches my interior, it must be doeskin?? My only doubt is that the brochure is 1993 and the car is 1994, it also states the wheels should be gold.. Your interior looks to be doeskin; magnolia is very pale. With front left door open you will see a white plaque low down on the door pillar with JAGUAR CARS LIMITED written over the top. This is the VIN 'plate'. At the bottom of this under the permissable weights etc are two boxes containing code letters. One for paint, one for trim. Your 'Sport' model was available in a limited number of colours (at least officially - Jaguar would paint your car any colour you like, if you paid them to, there are quite a few unique oddities out there) yours looks to be Flamenco. Doeskin is AEE. Flamenco is CFH There is a VIN decoder as well as a paint and trim decoder on this site: www.jaguarsport-xjr.com/html/utilities.htmlTrim codes: www.jaguarpartswholesaler.com/1902972.htmlPaint codes: www.affordablejaguarparts.com/informative_specs/paint_code_chart.htmlDavid
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Lovely looking car. I really fancy one especially with them being so cheap, but I'm scared of the mpg
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