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Dec 23, 2010 23:36:39 GMT
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OK, this is a bit of an unusual one but I am looking for a central door locking motor/acutator/solenoid that is SLOWER than the normal ones. I don't care what car it is from, but I need one that is slower than the 'conventional' CL motors which rapidly open & close. When I say rapidly, I mean 'snap' open & shut. Basically what i'm after is the slower the better.  I'll not give away what it's for yet - there is still quite a bit to do beforehand, but if anyone does know of anything that is suitable, please let me know? Many thanks, Bruce. |
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Copey
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you could try regulating the voltage through some standard ones to make them move slower? a bit like when a car battery starts to lose power and the starter turns over slower?
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1990 Ford Sierra Sapphire GLSi with 2.0 Zetec
1985 Ford Capri 3.0 (was a 2.0 Laser originally)
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Dez
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get down maplins, and ask for 'linear actuators'. basically the same thing as central locking motor, but slower. i hope its going to be used for what my mate used one for  |
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My old Orion (mkII style, G-reg) had OE central locking that took 3 or 4 seconds to cycle.
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1986 Panda 4x4.
1990 Metro Sport.
1999 Ford Escort estate.
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rodharris83
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My Mk4 Polo (1996) central locking is pretty slow to cycle
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Gilesy
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The 80/90s VAG setup would likely be the slowest you'll find BUT they're a vacuum bellows system, and you need the vac pump from the boot as well as the solenoids themselves.
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1991 Polo Coupe - Gone
1987 Scirocco Scala - Gone
1991 Scirocco GTII - Gone
1980 Mini 1000 - Gone
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Thanks guys, I'm going near Maplins today so might pop in and see if they have any linear actuators (thanks Dez ) although I think it probably best to avoid going anywhere near any shops today....especially seeing as the Bristol Maplins is now on one of those retail parks that most people 'default' to whenever they have nothing better to do in their consumer obsessed lives. Whenever I pass that way, the queues to get in are normally ridiculous, so I imagine today they are going to be completely retarded! I might also have a rummage around one of the local scrapyards to see if they have anything remotely like the kinda thing I am looking for. Liking the sound of the Mk4 Escort/Mk2 Orion stuff...I seem to recall them taking a second or two to lock. Might be perfect for what I need to do ;D In fact, I have a 'Ford' of the same era sat on my drive at the moment (storing for another RR guy) so will pop out and see how the locks are on that. |
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Dec 24, 2010 10:01:11 GMT
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get down maplins, and ask for 'linear actuators'. basically the same thing as central locking motor, but slower. I hope its going to be used for what my mate used one for fitted them in my bready... the original geared down units had chewed themselves to bits.. |
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Dec 24, 2010 11:11:42 GMT
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Mk3 Golf ones are pretty slow, but I believe they are vacuum fed (has someone already said this?)
Mercedes ones are slowish too....again vacuum fed!
Volvo ones are like attacking rotweilers so avoid those things!
Linear actuators are the way forward!
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rtlkyuubi
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Dec 24, 2010 12:31:52 GMT
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I have a cheapy one sat at home (just a motor and a few gears) so with a vairable resistor, you can get it to go as slow or as fast as you like.
Want me to bring it with me when I come down in january?
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Dec 24, 2010 12:38:11 GMT
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Ford ones are slooooowwwww.
Or get hold of some aftermarket actuators as mentioned above.
Lewis
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Dec 24, 2010 13:01:34 GMT
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Want me to bring it with me when I come down in january? Oooh, yes please ;D Ford ones are slooooowwwww. Or get hold of some aftermarket actuators as mentioned above. Lewis Yeah, I checked the Ford that's currently sat on the drive (my lips are sealed Ryan ) and the locks are pretty slow. Certainly something to consider. All the aftermaket solenoids I've come across have been like Mike Tyson quick with a strong punch to them. Not suited to what I'm after. I'll have another rummage around the unit to see what I can turn up in the meantime....I know I've got some L400 Delica ones there but might have some other bits tucked away. Thanks again for the help. Ryan's one sounds promising and I'll keep an eye out on a 90's Ford solenoid in the meantime. |
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Dec 24, 2010 13:59:41 GMT
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Ford ones are slooooowwwww. Or get hold of some aftermarket actuators as mentioned above. Lewis yeah,. And the ones that were in my nans old mk3 fiesta flight sounded like a klaxon... AWOOOOOOOGGAAAAHHHH |
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Dec 24, 2010 14:43:40 GMT
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 ?? ;D Rover Metro ones are apparently pretty slow and are the same as the ones in Maplins. The Maplins ones are better, but it's another source from the scrapyard. |
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rtlkyuubi
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Dec 25, 2010 20:32:27 GMT
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heheh ive got 2 and meybe a vairable resistor, do you need both or just 1?
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Dec 25, 2010 21:20:04 GMT
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B5 Passat estate has one in the bootlock that works with motor and gears. Operates really fast but could probably be slowed down. They are a bit temperamental in my experience, but are a nice little mechanism.
If you need a lot of travel at a nice pace, maybe an electric aerial would suit. You can fiddle around with them and shorten the travel distance too.
Didnt a lot of older american cars have ones that went hzzzzz rather than thump. Think Rolls royce had them too. Like some kind of rack and pinion.
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Dec 25, 2010 21:21:11 GMT
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mk1 Sierra/mk3 Granny have the same slow solonoids as the Escorts.
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bortaf
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Dec 25, 2010 23:45:35 GMT
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IMHO you cant slow a solenoid with a resistor it just wont throw at all, you need a linear actuator which is a motor with a worm drive on a rod.
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spiny
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sierra (and probably other fords) have the 'worm gear' type and are pretty slow, and could probab;y be made slower by dropping the volts.
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Dec 26, 2010 11:08:42 GMT
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I meant to say that in my post, the old ford ones are not soloniods at all really, as said above they have a motor and gears not an electromagnetic actuator
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