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Dec 12, 2010 19:28:21 GMT
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I was wondering if some one could advise me what steps need to be taken in registering a car modified into a pick up style.
I appreciate it has been covered a couple of times but i haven't fully understood what has been said?!
Many Thanks,
Ben
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Dec 12, 2010 20:21:17 GMT
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Little more info needed first.
Does the base vehicle have a proper chassis that is seperate from body or is it a monocoque ?
Paul H
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Dec 12, 2010 20:27:31 GMT
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The specific vehicle in question is a Citroen Saxo, so a monocoque.
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Dec 12, 2010 20:30:37 GMT
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Far as i can make out it de[ends how much work has been done on it, if its classed as modified your stuffed as there is no test for it, if enough work has been don't that i can be classed a home built vehicle rather than an altered existing one then its ok and can be tested.
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Volvo back as my main squeeze, more boost and some interior goodies on the way.
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Dec 12, 2010 20:32:07 GMT
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From what i gather, you can't.
I read the rules that as it becomes a modified commercial, there is no class for it, therefore rendering it untestable.
Also, from what I gather, some people have 'got around' this by making a cover for the rear, thus making it a shortened saloon.
Whatever is done, my take on it is that it would require either IVA or BIVA, not sure which.
I'm sure someone will be along shortly to clarify though.
My advice would be to steer clear. However a well executed one could look good, if a little pointless.
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Dec 12, 2010 20:32:43 GMT
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The specific vehicle in question is a Citroen Saxo, so a monocoque. From my understanding of previous threads it can't now be registered here in the UK as there's no class for it to fall into, unless you convert it into a coupe with a removable back bit over the load area. |
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Dec 12, 2010 20:33:36 GMT
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don't say it cant be tested, lol. all that has been done is cut half the roof off, roll cage through out, welded shut tailgate and cab wall fitted.  |
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Last Edit: Dec 12, 2010 20:34:54 GMT by qucifer666
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Dec 12, 2010 20:35:09 GMT
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don't say it cant be tested, lol. all that has been done is cut half the roof off, roll cage through out, welded shut tailgate and cab wall fitted. hate to say it but thats why theres lots of cheap pickup projects aboiut over the last year or so. |
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Volvo back as my main squeeze, more boost and some interior goodies on the way.
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Dec 12, 2010 20:37:29 GMT
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so if i made a cover over the whole of the back, resembling the former shape, that would be a way around it?
Could it be tarpaulin or have to be solid?
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Dec 12, 2010 20:37:42 GMT
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Could you not just put a cloth top over the cage and treat it as a cabrio, in the same style as a Frontera or Sportrack etc?
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Dec 12, 2010 20:55:25 GMT
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as soon as you cut a monocoque bodied car about you enter into BIVA territory and there is no longer a class for modified commercial. the only way as far as know that you could get that so it could be tested would be to weld another saxo roof back on it . as said the pickups are no longer testable unless you can prove its not a commercial vehicle (bit difficult when its a pickup ) you could do it as a coupe but you would still need BIVA
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Dec 12, 2010 21:01:12 GMT
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I know it's not the same but i have converted my estate car in to a van by welding the rear doors shot and paneling out the back windows.
I sent my log book of to say my car was now a van and after having my log book withheld for 6 months DVLC decided they wanted to have my van inspected at the local VOSA testing station. This test was a joke they basically checked the chassis number, checked where I welded the doors and said I would hearing from them once their finding had been submitted. after another couple of weeks my log booked was return to say my car is now a van, log books states Passat gt Van.
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Dec 12, 2010 21:03:29 GMT
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yeah i was hoping it would be that easy.
i don't want it as a good vehicle, can it not be Q plated or just put in for a BIVA?
What if a cloth roof was fitted and i tried to call it a cabriolet like Count Pandamonium suggested?
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Dec 12, 2010 21:11:44 GMT
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yeah I was hoping it would be that easy. I don't want it as a good vehicle, can it not be Q plated or just put in for a BIVA? What if a cloth roof was fitted and I tried to call it a cabriolet like Count Pandamonium suggested? Was easy but long winded but well worth it, when i go to get parts and they run the plate through the computer it comes up as a a van and I always get "never knew VW made a Passat van" to which I reply "they didn't I did lol" |
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Dec 12, 2010 21:15:17 GMT
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I know it's not the same but I have converted my estate car in to a van by welding the rear doors shot and paneling out the back windows. I sent my log book of to say my car was now a van and after having my log book withheld for 6 months DVLC decided they wanted to have my van inspected at the local VOSA testing station. This test was a joke they basically checked the chassis number, checked where I welded the doors and said I would hearing from them once their finding had been submitted. after another couple of weeks my log booked was return to say my car is now a van, log books states Passat gt Van. the difference is making a panel van is if anything adding strength where as making a pickup is removing part of the structure requiring a bit more than a visual check . you could put a cloth cover over it a call it a cabrio but then if you going to do that you may as well just MOT it and see how long you can get away with it really . sadly not all the answers to the advise we seek are the ones we want to hear |
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Last Edit: Dec 12, 2010 23:00:01 GMT by Deleted
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Dec 12, 2010 21:26:57 GMT
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you could take the panel out the back of the cab and fit small seats from something like a Vitara in the back, its no longer a pickup then but would look the same, you don't need a roof on it for it to be a car, if you really muchy have it as a pickup truck then take all the running gear out and mnount the whole thing on a Vitara chassis, it must be around the right size and can still be lowered, not many options for more power though.
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Volvo back as my main squeeze, more boost and some interior goodies on the way.
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i'm half expecting hassle from overzealous hi-viz hitlers when my mk5 cortina crayford go's back on road next spring after being off road for a couple of years.
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theres more to life than mpg & to much power is just enough.
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hamps
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With mine I had an engineers report done then sent v5 off changing body type to pick-up v5 came back as a pick -up job done! The plod werent happy once and took it in for inspection by vosa and trained police inspectors, i poo'd myself for half an hour, then got a call saying come get ya pick-up mate its fine  happy days!  |
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hamps
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Never had a problem mot'ing it neither ;D
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Last Edit: Dec 13, 2010 0:44:56 GMT by hamps
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Current legal position www.the-ace.org.uk/BIVA-Pickup-problems.html?searched=pickup&highlight=ajaxSearch_highlight+ajaxSearch_highlight1Now about 99% of any notified body type changes are inspected . This is carried out by DVLA but often at VOSA premises. This is a vehicle identity check NOT any form of safety check, that is VOSA remit and the fact it is at VOSA premises is to do with H&S at DVLA offices not that VOSA are involved in any way (at this stage ). There is NO way round it, the guys at VOSA are not stupid ( when you get transferred to then by DVLA ), putting a tonneau cover on it, hardtop etc will not change the fact that it is has become a pick up meaning the monococque has been modified. The Passat van conversion passed because there was no weakening on the monococque involved ,just welding to strengthen it . We clarified the reasons with VOSA after the case was closed. As stated in our link above if it is simply a pickup conversion it has NO class and cannot be tested or re-registered.It has to have MORE work with photographic history of work to then qualify as Amateur Built ,per the 100E pick pictures I put up here a while ago. Also the load area must be a minimum of the distance from engine bulkhead to rearmost seat . If it qualified as Amateur Built it could use SVA Goods vehicle test until October 2011 when that cease to exist and falls in line with BIVA car test . |
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Last Edit: Dec 13, 2010 9:21:34 GMT by kapri
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happy days! 
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