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I was out in the driveway last weekend playing with the E28 when you passed by, sounded really mean! Heard it coming from the end of the road.  I went past and there was someone standing with a hose. I wasn't sure if it was you so didn't stop. It's loud because phil ^^^ cut all the silencers out the exhaust other than the back box. It does sound good though. Phil, fungus is still awesome. I really do like the car and to be fair this is the first thing I've done since I got it off you. The rest of the sill seems pretty sound so I'll have a go at making a repair section, which won't fit, I'll then go in the huff and have to get the rimmers catalogue out anyway. Did you ever have any problems with the gearbox as it seems to have developed a pretty healthy leak recently? What are you driving now? Something interesting I hope. |
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I can remember it peeing oil out until Phil changed the sump... no idea about the box though. Phil will be able to tell you for sure, I only drove it once or twice and that was before he lowered it.
Phil's currently rebuilding a Triumph Spitfire so has been going over to Rimmers that often he pretty much has his own seat and coffee mug there! Lately he's been hanging his nose over something old and grotty he posted in the "Abandoned" thread over in general chat...
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I was out in the driveway last weekend playing with the E28 when you passed by, sounded really mean! Heard it coming from the end of the road. I went past and there was someone standing with a hose. I wasn't sure if it was you so didn't stop. It's loud because phil ^^^ cut all the silencers out the exhaust other than the back box. It does sound good though. Yeah that was likely me, big guy with glasses! Usually got a hose, sponge or polishing cloth in my hand! Sounded really good. |
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1987 BMW E28 525E, Lachs silver, Shadowline, BBS
1999 BMW E36 318is Sport, Black with lows and no powa
1993 Subaru Impreza WRX, silver, tasty bits, STI wannabe
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Right then. I had great intentions of getting this sorted then a BMW 3 series came my way, which ended up hogging my lockup for a month. The BMW's off getting painted so it's time to get stuck into the Rover. First off I was driving it last week and it started making an almighty and worrying rattling noise. When I put the bonnet up the pulley on the end of the water pump was wobbling about like crazy and looked like it was going to detach itself and try to re-attach itself into my head so I switched it off and ran away. A quick hunt on ebay got me a new waterpump delivered for £25 so on Saturday I headed down to my lockup to fit it. I got about 300 yards from the lockup, right in the middle of town when it starts squeeling like crazy followed by lots of smoke pouring from the bonnet. The sodding water pump had seized solid and the alternator belt was doing it's best to vapourise itself. It's a good job the timing belt on these doesn't drive the pump or it could have been much worse. Anyway, much faffing later I liberated the old one. The bearings must have collapsed as there was shards of metal everywhere. Nasty.  It should be noted that this is by far the most mechanically complex thing I've tried. I had to pull the radiator out, undo the fan and worst of all take the timing belt off, which had me making 2p's in my pants. It took me 7 hours to take it to bits and fit the new pump and I was so knackered on Sunday I had to go back to my bed in the afternoon being such a wimpish desk jockey not used to a flippin hard days work. I was too busy freaking out about timing belt failure to take any pictures during the procedure but here it is doing what it does best, being 100% ready to pump some water.  In actual fact I think the pump has been on it's way out for a while as when i started it up the engine sounded super quiet. Result. The car's booked in for a classic show on the 7th of May so I thought I'd better do something about all the rust holes appearing in it. I thought I'd start with the worst bit, which is the rear of the drivers side sill.  It looked bad but then with some poking it got worse. When finally started started grinding it back there was at least an inch of filler in parts. At some point in the distant past it's had a rear quarter put on it, which I think is at the route of why it's such a mess. After much cutting it looked like this.  I've actually cut more out of it now as quite a lot of the inner wheel arch was knackered. It's worse than I thought and I'm a bit deflated by it all as the car's looking like a right old sh*t box but there's nothing for it but to start putting new metal in. I didn't start any welding today but I did cut out a few patch panels so I'm ready for the next time I take it down there. Thanks Kate and Willz your Royal Wedding day holiday is going to be my Royal Welding day holiday. |
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Apr 25, 2011 19:48:03 GMT
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Keep it coming, when it's back on the road you'll love it so much you'll forget all about the hassle of replacing the grot. Sounds like you had a lucky escape with that water pump.
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There is no such thing as a curse word car just overstretched expectations................. Herald 10/10 Gasser 10/10 Total score 20/10 |
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Apr 26, 2011 11:40:58 GMT
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I just need to stick with it. The inner wheel arch is going to be the trickiest bit as it needs to curve around to meet the outer wheel arch. It's good welding practice anyway.
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So as per my previous post my Royal wedding day was spent welding. I did bring my proper camera but typically when I got there I found the batterys to be flat. I only had enough money with me for my lunch and there was no way I was giving up my killie pie and french fancy lunch for a set of new camera batteries. As a result the pictures are taken with my camera phone and a bit rubbish. In the pictures in my previous posts you can see I'd chopped out quite a lot of rotten metal. I ended up cutting out a whole lot more. The inner arch was rotten pretty much to the top so I started to plate in there. I got a bit excited and didn't take any pictures until I'd boxed in the bottom of the sill. I'm quite chuffed with this as the sill has a bit of a wavy contour. I had to create the sill end with this contour then create a plate to connect it to the original sill. It did take me ages though. At the end of Friday it looked like this:  Unfortunatly that's all the work in progress pictures (I'm a bit rubbish at this) so on Saturday I concentrated on getting it all back into one bit. I'd some what foolishly entered it into a classic car show months ago, which is next Saturday and I didn't really want big lumps missing out the body work. There was a lots of little fiddly bits to deal with here and my welder started acting up so getting the edge on the sill was a real battle. I'm not sure what it is but it won't give an even wire feed resulting in some ropey and inconsistant welding (even more than normal.) I recon the liners snagging the wire or something as it's got a couple of burns in it. So finally this is as it is just now. I need to flap disc the frig out of some bits and weld a lip onto the wheel arch. I managed to get it at least back into one bit and it's roughly the same shape as it was (nothing a 5 litre tin of glen miller won't sort out). I also welded up the the little hole in the rear passenger door, which was previous jammed full of filler.   Unfortunatly there's still another 5 bits i need to deal with but these are just straight forward chop out and weld a plate in and not as involved as this. Hopefully. |
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I'm feeling this mate.... I have roughly the same situation: Good useable 80s classic (Vauxhall Royale) being let down by some ugly corrosion in the usual places and you have two choices really. - strip the car down and rebuild the body, removing every spot of corrosion
- or, patch up the bad bits, get some filler & paint on and get driving again that day
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1965/67 Hillman Imp pick-up
1984 VW Polo breadvan
1970s Yamaha Twins (4)
1976 Honda SS50ZK1
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I think if you take them off the road you run the danger of overdosing on rust and never finishing it. This is the toughest bit of welding I've done on a car as it's all angles and lines. Once it's ground back and fillered up it'll hopefully look a bit better than it does now. I've just been looking at your Royale thread. Very similiar rust problems I see. The interior of your car is ace. It's going to be at the Dean Castle Country Park car show on Sunday if you want to come over and laugh at my welding (I'll not be offended)  . |
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Impressive work so far mate!
The water pump on the 2600 and 2300 is always a pain, and I don't think having that big fan hanging off the front does them any favours. One of the SD1's we had in the past had the fan sieze up which is as scary as the pump going, so we fitted a Kenlowe. Much better.
For the arch, have you contacted Rimmer Bros? They did have some arch repair sections though I'm not sure on the cost.
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I looked at Rimmer Bros as I considered getting an inner arch and sill but the tight wad in me ruled it out after I checked the price list. The outer arch isn't too bad other than the bit at the bottom and one bit further up. If my welder sorts itself out I'll hopefully have finished all the welding this weekend.
The water pump was scary, luckily I was on my way to fix it with the pump in the car with me when it finally gave up and not far from home. Good job that belt wasn't also do the timing.
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Guess what? I'm still p!ssing about with this flippin arch repair. On Saturday I headed off down the lockup nice and early thinking to myself that I'd finish off the arch, slap a couple of repair panels on the big holes that seem to be growing in the boot and have enough time left to bake a cake, paint my toe nails and write short but heart felt poem about the plite of the New Guinea river shark. Obviously all this went to panda poo as when I started to try to fit a lip to the arch as I wasn't happy with what I'd done before. I though the sensible thing to do was to try to make up one peice of sill with the lip already on it. This was the result.  After I'd built this the continuing problems with my welder re-surfaced while trying to weld it on. I was wanting to take it to a car show on Sunday (today) but with lots of metal missing from the arch this was looking increasingly unlikley. It was 2pm by now, I'd been there since 9.30 and I spent an hour doing stuff and the rest of the time p!ssing about with the welder. I was MEGA frustrated so what I needed at this point to cheer me up even more was for my autodimming welding helmet to break so this is exactly what it decided to do. Luckily for me the kindly chap who works in the garage next door (after listening to me rant and kick the welder) offered to lend me his one. I dunno what happened but it all clicked. The welders helmet was awesome and my welder didn't jam once in 2 hours so I managed to weld on my bit of sill, the arch and lob on a rough skim of filler. It's obviously still rough as owt as I was trying to get it in one bit for the car show.  Needs a (quite) a bit more filler.  Here it is at the show. On the right is the best SD1 in the country who's only original panel is it's roof thanks to a total resto finished last year. On the left is an SD1, which starts in tonights TV drama Field of Blood, which is probably only shown in Scotland (nae luck if you're not Scotch).  I'm getting there. The rest of the welding should be a bit simpler but I'm going to give it a couple of weeks until I get stuck back into it as I'm sick of getting welding sparks in my ears. |
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Good to see you made it.
Just replacing both outer sills on my VDP EFi, the inners needed metal letting into them.
Both front footwells needed repairing, a hole in the boot has also been repaired, on my to do list is replace the N/S front wing and N/S rear wheel arch (both panels sourced from ebay for £60 the pair, apparently wheel arches are no longer available - you have to get them when they come up).
If I had this car 10 years ago I would have scrapped it and looked for a better example, however they are so thin on the ground that you have to take what comes available.
I do like the 23/26 engines in the SD1 - not massively powerful but they are nice and smooth and reasonably economical.
From a visual point of view they are also impressive - they almost look like an aero engine as they are so tall.
Good luck with the rest of your welding. You'll get used to the burns.
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They're great cars but they love to rust. Someone more sensible than me suggested (after I'd welded all that in) I should have gone up to an auto factors and looked for a similiar shaped inner and outer arch from an escort or something and chopped it around to fit in.
I know what you mean about scrapping it . If I hadn't been able to weld all this would have been an un-economic repair. There was a tidy solid looking 2600 VDP on ebay for £950 recently and it crossed my mind to buy it and put all the good stuff from mine on it but as you say they're getting rare now so it's worth keeping it on the road.
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Right so Cinderella went to the ball even though she had a couple of her teeth missing. Since then I've been peeing about doing other non car related stuff and giving prc a hand welding up his other wise well tidy e28 BMW. During all this poor old fungus has been stuck out on the drive as rust started to peep through the primer I'd roughly stuck on there the day before the show so it was time to do something about it. Unfortunately the thing I did was to go and look at a 1976 Lotus Elite, which hasn't been properly on the road since 1995. I need the lotus like I need an anvil dropped on my plums as not only is it a fair old project but it's 10cm too short for my previously discussed ridiculously proportioned lockup. To try to disuade myself of plan Lotus I decided to have another pop at getting the SD1 into my lockup sideways. The previous attempt was twarted by the previous occupant of the lockups massive jetski stuck in the corner but that's gone now so I gave it another shot. After jacking it up on a trolley jack and giving it a push over it's in and I have access right around the car, which means I can now nip down at night and plug away at it rather than just at weekends. Here it is in the garage at last. Once my 4 litre tin of rusteze and 8kilo jumbo family pack of filler arrives I'll be set.  I'd been dreading taking off the passenger real sill guard thing given the state of the driverside but I thought it was time for a peek. Oh. The bit missing at the bottom is a patch that had rusted out and fell off and the other bit is just good old fashioned 80's rot. The good news is the inner and outer wheel arch is solid so no peeing around with that on this side. The lip at the bottom of the sill is also still metal so I'll be able to make up a repair panel and get it welded in although I still have the tricky arch lip to do but experience of this gained on the otherside should help.  Onwards -> |
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Ouchie!
Before those arches went on, Phil took it to a garage to have the sill patched for the MOT. It looks as though the cheeky scumbags didn't do quite as good a job as they bragged about.
You'll sort it I'm sure, your work on the other side was mint.
Rich
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Cheers Rich! The cheeky monkeys just patched over it then bent the metal around the existing sill end.
It's not as involved as the otherside so I'm just going to try to make up one repair panel and get it on. The MOT's out now so I need to get it all patched and mot'd as soon as so I can so i don't miss having the summer with it.
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When you want a hand you just need to shout bud.
It's actually a great sized workshop floor space wise, just too wide and not deep enough! Better than my pop up argos gazebo tho! ;D
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1987 BMW E28 525E, Lachs silver, Shadowline, BBS
1999 BMW E36 318is Sport, Black with lows and no powa
1993 Subaru Impreza WRX, silver, tasty bits, STI wannabe
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Another couple of feet and you could get 2 cars in there with room to work. The way it's in is great as I have full access to all sides of it. After todays chop fest I recon it's going to be a little longer before it see's the road again than I was hoping. I thought I'd just chop out the known grot , clean it up then I can nip down of and evening and weld it up bit by bit. As had been the case with this car very thick underseal and loads of filler have been hiding a lot of rot. This is quite a big section of sill and it looks like the inner sill has started to go. The petrol tanks right behind this and I don't fancy accidently migging it so I recon it's going to have to come out.  The sill end had been patched over but it was still rotten underneath.  This what came off  When I ground back all the filler off the arch it's pretty perforated.  The inner wheelarch. unfotunatly the boot floor had started to go aswell.  On the plus side it's now a rust free rover I just need to fill in all the big holes. |
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nice teabag of a project but it does look a hard ass nail car keep going there needs to be some one to save these buckets
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