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Their loss ;D Here seems a lot more Inclusive rather than exclusive ;D and I must say that Turbosport is the same, although seen by many as a classic Ford site, it axctually encompasses and welcomes everyone and is trying to get away from the "Ford site" image.... Having said that there are still some lovely Mk1 and 2 Escorts on there ;D I think you have to pick and choose where you are comfortable and some sites I visit for Marque knowledge and advice are not nessasarily where I choose to "Hang out" IYSWIM ;D
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I like what I like. I try and show an interest in other people's stuff even if its not what I like. At least they are making the effort even if the stuff they are doing it with isn't my bag.
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1941 Wolseley Not Rod - 1956 Humber Hawk - 1957 Daimler Conquest - 1966 Buick LeSabre - 1968 Plymouth Sport Fury - 1968 Ford Galaxie - 1969 Ford Country Squire - 1969 Mercury Marquis - 1970 Morris Minor - 1970 Buick Skylark - 1970 Ford Galaxie - 1971 Ford Galaxie - 1976 Continental Mark IV - 1976 Ford Capri - 1994 Ford Fiesta
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Like said ^ its our gain, and we really don't give a damn. infact i enjoy it when i choose summat people think is curse word specially if its family work colleagues, generall joe riff raff public and mr and mrs perfect. I have bought my MR2 even though a good mechanic i know says they are broke hairdressers cars. he talks a lot of sense, and i usually listen. he's relatively new to the world J, and his soarer wasn't welcomed by his peers either at first, now fully converted. He'll see!
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it doesn't matter if it's a Morris Marina or a Toyota Celica - it's what you do with it that counts
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winds me up too. it was so rife on 'sko-forum' when i was a member. a lad on there (he is a member on here) bought himself a seat arosa to use daily to stop having to use his skud and put a pic of it in his sig and admin deleted it from his sig. if i even dared to mention Peugoet in the 'GENERAL CHAT' area i'd be threatened with a ban! they were just as bad with how good Skoda's are. I love Skoda's, but not because they are better than any other car, just because i do. i remember 1 thread that resulted in 3 of us getting our wrists slapped was about a Rapid RiC (injection model) doing 60mpg! when we challenged the admin who said it could do 60mpg we all got a warning and told off! wtf. i may sound hypercritical as i do only own skodas and i will quite happily admit that they are my favorite marque of car but i do like other cars. Volvos, Scimitars and anything eatern european for a start. that is why i like RR, one day you are talking about Sierra's, the next day you are talking about a Toyota Cressida - Long live RR!
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I'm so glad I'm not the only one whose nose this gets up !
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It's boring old men with tiny willies who feel the need to wave their e-wang about by being BossOfT'Swingsâ„¢ on their forums/clubs.
It tires me...It really does.
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Top grammar tips! Bought = purchased. Brought = relocated Lose = misplace/opposite of win. Loose = your mum
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Panda Matt
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Lol can you imagine it? Lads swapping there 'Ripspeed Special' Punto for a top of the range Trabby Blinkeredness toward more modern cars? I personally enjoy (and I suspect others on here do as well) the notereity and scornful looks I get for driving something that more narrow minded people are obviously offended by. I fondly remember parking my primered and electrical-tape-sports stripe fasty in the show and shine section of an Isle of Wight Morris Minors Owners Club show (it was much more convenient than the carpark for the all-marques autojumble).
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MWF
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Marquism - the lowest form of enthusiam
It boils down to how suggestable you are. Something that highly motivates our personalities is status. However he we percive our own status can be very different to how others see it. The main problem comes when you put highly status orientated suggestable people in a competative environment.
For instance you have two 17 year old lads from upper middle class families, lad A is given a Peugeot 206 by his parents, lad B is given a Renault Clio. The two will often lock horns in casual banter (perhaps even heated debates) in an attempt to raise their status by comparing these materialistic posessions. The fact they may have never had an active part in chosing the car, the fact one may be technically superior to the other in every way will make no difference. Because they care only about how they project their status.
It gets worse when that type of person finds a social group in the same situation. You then suffer this group acceptance problem we see so much of on the net. A very effective way of raising your status profile within a group is to share the same opinion as the group. I.e the way most teenagers will buy the same CD's and clothes as their friends. A rather sad side to society is that some individuals often worry that not thinking the same as the majority will make them look stupid and people will think less of them for it. So therefore we suffer the situation where people are happier not actually thinking for themselves.
Just look at the group dynamics of football supporters, fathers spitting out voilent threats to a chorus of swearing infront of children. Groups of lads fighting on the streets all because they believe one of group of men can kick a ball better than another. All for what? The reward of their peers all thinking 'there alright' because they think the same.
RetroRides is easily one of the most open minded and free thinking car forums out there. The quality of the posts on here are a reflection of that. Here we have a complete reverse spin on what modern society deems as worth. On most car forums a car is judged on it's price, speed/power and newness, on here those can work against it. It's a refreshing perspective on things and one I really hope continues without developing its own uneeded trends.
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slater
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Blinkeredness ? why !?slater
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Their loss ;D I must say that Turbosport is the same, although seen by many as a classic Ford site, it axctually encompasses and welcomes everyone and is trying to get away from the "Ford site" image.... Having said that there are still some lovely Mk1 and 2 Escorts on there ;D aye turbosport has got alot better since i joined (hope theres not a connection! ) It used to be ford only but its starting to get a few other marques posted up and people attualy seme to like them! They even put my min in the newsletter last month.
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See I do like a motor that's a little bit maligned myself, part of what first appealed to me about Hillman Imps is that a few years ago there were still plenty of pub bores who would tell you that they were hopelessly unreliable and couldn't get to the end of the street without overheating, that they were terribly built and fell apart, that the handling was dangerous and all the rest of it, and when I first got into Imps as a teenager most of the guys I was in school with thought that my first Imp was some sort of knackered little Russian car and took the rip out of it for that too (another example of the general public's anti-soviet bias, which I suspect may have roots in the Cold War and some people being unable to totally shake the idea that the Russians are rivals and enemies, which is odd considering myself and the people I was in school with were still kids when the Cold War ended, but there are still leftovers of it when you think about it, mention socialism or communism in a favourable way to many people and they'll still put on a Russian accent and mockingly call you "comrade" a lot, so I suppose it's still embedded in people's minds.) , which I kind of liked because it added to the feeling that I was onto something that nobody else knew about, while all my mates were drooling over Golf GTis they could never afford and setting themselves up to all look the same when they finally got cars and all drove around in little clapped out hatches that used to be their gran's but now had huge bodykits on.
Another group I've found that have been excluded in a very odd way in recent years is Volvo owners. Bearing in mind that these days 70s-90s Mercs, Audis and BMWs are well accepted as modern classics in many circles, it's odd that in 2006 the 2 series, a car with 70s origins, is barely just getting considered a classic, and the 7 series, which to me is the epitomie of classic Volvo design, square styling at its most extreme and possibly the most safe and reliable car built to date, and at least as comfortable as any saloon built in Germany, is still considered a banger and scoffed by many classic enthusiasts, while the 940 and 960, both very useable cars, are dismissed as modern rubbish by classic people and as old bangers by modern car people. I've had experience of this personally when taking old Volvos to shows, I once took the 960 to a show and had it dismissed as too modern, soul-less and common by many classic enthusiasts, which is strange considering the car's background. Not only is it an example of the last of a classic line, the RWD Volvo three-number series (starting with the 120/130 series and ending with the 940/960) going back to the Amazon of the mid 1950s, and retains much of the character of older RWD Volvos, plus some unique character of its own, but my 960 in particular is one of very few of its type, there aren't many of the factory LWB editions let alone the four seat limousine versions this one is, so I'd hardly call it too common, even the SWB 960 is rare compared to rival Audis and BMWs.
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"He's not the messiah, he's a very naughty boy!"
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Nick
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i remeber when turbosport was first around the escort crew even poked fun at the capri owners on there etc cos it wasnt an escort.
tjese days its a million times better and ive eventually got round to signing up
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idea stolen from rattely eddie.
this weeks car count "5"
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This is pretty good reading guys, and this is why I favour this forum above any other web based forum. Open mindedness and goodwill is far more important than the 'my car is better than your car brigade' car clubs. We all share the same enthusiasm but its all to do with the diverse, the possibilities and the vision. The Retro rides area at the RCS last year was something I was proud to be part of, and most definitely the best thing about the show. well...apart from that mad rocket car.... The Volvo 1970's and 1980's cars acceptance by their own owners club is so true! I can imagine even a Daf/Volvo 66 turning up at a Volvo stand would be frowned upon by some owners. That would certainly not happen if the same car came up on the Retro rides stand. I used to be reasonably active on the VW air cooled scene in the early nineties and we seldom saw water cooled cars at the events, but those that turned up were snubbed. I slowly lost interest in attending meets after some guy took exception to my 1302S not being a proper beetle. Yes, true, but so what. Stick up your ass mate.
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If a DAF/Volvo 66 got within 100 yards of the R-R stand it'd be snaffled.
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Last Edit: Mar 2, 2006 20:02:02 GMT by penski
Top grammar tips! Bought = purchased. Brought = relocated Lose = misplace/opposite of win. Loose = your mum
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Nathan
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Blinkeredness ? why !?Nathan
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Hehehehe MG owners are like that i am afraid generally the older generation (Usualy Flat cap type) . Even though I own 2 MG and love the cars I still like other and have many vauxhalls/fords/Skodas on my list of Must owns.
I remember about 3 years ago the Local MG club set up a Road Rally was for some good cause from what I remember, the Ad said all classics welcome, so my mate come down in a Pontiac Trans AM 6.6, and ahh my god as soon as the rally had finished the cars were put in a show stand,
My mate got this reply as he parked up "sorry mate 1. that cars not old enough and 2. its not really a classic" My mate flipped, But the worst part of it a Fruggin MG ZR was on the show stand . Needless to say I am no longer a member of the local Notts MG club but Leicesters One instead as they are not S.M.S affected.
Even owning a MG I get a few Cocked noses as the car aint standard, well to those People I say "I bought the FRUGGIN car I will do what i like to it, End of"
I think this is also why RR and RC and Show are so good as they don't stick to this one Make love
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Last Edit: Mar 2, 2006 20:08:54 GMT by Nathan
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Hirst
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It's great here for the variety and friendly attitude, I love the acceptance especially of "forgotten" common motors like the Belmont and that Ital. Loads of enthusiasm to save cars that are going extinct and do something interesting with them! Plus you don't jump on me for not having a proper Retro car or banging on about old Daihatsus.
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I like what's being said in this thread. A handful of hotrodders have migrated over this way from the NSRA forum because of the amount of bitching and arguing that goes on. You wouldn't have though that a bunch of guys with so much in common could fail to get along in such a big way. I haven't seen one argument since I've been here. What it all boils down to over there is that there is a narrow margin that the cars have to fall into and if you show an interest in anything else, like say Ratlook's Kitten, you get shunned "that's not a hotrod" Now that's not right in my books and plenty of young lads have entered and left the scene who might one day have wanted to build a hotrod rather than a hot classic but have been pushed outside. I like it here. Anything goes
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I actually found this place after sticking up for a Honda CRX on Volkszone, getting a really bad slagging for it, by everyone except Mr HoTWire, who re-directed me here.
I've not looked back since, cool cars are cool cars, old, new VW or Ford, if its cool, I like it.
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The lurker formerly known as Cappuccinocruiser.. or wedgedout..
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Oh yeah, the other forum I use is mainly rice rockets and hot hatches but a couple of us fly the flag in there. They don't get it at all, can't understand why anyone would want to drive a car older than them. They are probably some of the worst for the old marque snobbery. Especially against Rovers and I relish in sticking up for the owners whos cars are being slated for no good reason
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i go on a few cortina forums and you do get alot of my mk is better than your mk threads usualy from the mk2 guys usually in jest but it can grate after so long hearing the same thing over and over then you also get the modded v standard thing well i'm sorry but for me its got to be modded especially with cortinas as there has never been a cortina built that handels from the factory ;D ;D
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том
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"If in doubt, flat out!"
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just had a couple of guys slaggin my sled off, so i replyed ;D... STFU... and yes, it felt soooo good
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1988 V8 Rangey Bobtail :: 1968 Volvo Amazon 133 Ratrod :: 1977 Land Rover 88 :: 1985 Opel Monza GSE :: 1983 MKII Fiesta
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