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Mar 26, 2010 16:50:10 GMT
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Reeto. I own this: I've put a 16v engine in it, Running gear is all great, but the body lets it down a bit. it's not "Shagged" but both front doors are dinted, the front wing is the same, and the laquer is lifting/crazing. Underneath its also decidedly average. It'll want a couple of bits of welding in about a year or so, and has already had a few bits. I can do this myself though. I had planned to just put a pair of doors and a wing on, perhaps swap the roof panel for a non-sunroof one, and then paint the thing. I was happy with this plan then I see this for sale: I could buy the shell, put all my running gear on and shazam. The car would then be a rallye (technically) and worth a lot more, and bodily in a lot better condition. Cost wise, I could probably get that shell for the cost of the materials to do mine up, but then I'd have the cost of an MOT and a few days swapping parts over. So, shall I persevere with mine, or scrap the shell and build it into the rallye? My main issue is that I'll feel really bad scrapping what is essentially a perfectly good car.
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Mar 26, 2010 16:55:50 GMT
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Mate, there's plenty of pugs about... go Rallye!
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Your car is not 'epic', this thread is not 'epic'....the OCEAN is epic, the UNIVERSE is epic.... please stop misusing this word!! It would appear Hotrods are the new VWs - aint fashion funny! '69 BUICK LESABRE 350
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Mar 26, 2010 17:13:19 GMT
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Mate, there's plenty of pugs about... go Rallye! +1 Life's too short to agonise over that, just follow your heart and do the Rallye thing. ;D
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rysz
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Mar 26, 2010 17:19:49 GMT
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Go for the Rallye Mate!
You know it makes sense! You can tehn go even wider with the banded steels! As JS stated, the 106 XSi is not the rarest of cars, and even if it was, who cares as it is YOUR car!
Rysz.
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Mar 26, 2010 17:22:22 GMT
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Rallye shell every time (with the correct steels), think re-sale.
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Mar 26, 2010 17:23:19 GMT
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Sounds like a no brainer to me, unless there's some sort of sentimental attachment
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...proper medallion man chest wig motoring.
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Mar 26, 2010 17:42:06 GMT
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Do it! You never know somone might want your old shell instead of you scrapping it.
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Mar 26, 2010 20:09:23 GMT
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New shell still has a sunroof...
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RobinJI
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Mar 26, 2010 21:26:08 GMT
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I've never quite understood the sunroof hatred from modified car crowds. What's so horrifically terrible about them? All I can think of is that internally sliding ones give less headroom, a bit more weight and are a pain if you want a cage. But surely a little pop up glass one isn't really a big issue? If you're realllyy bothered about the weight high up, surely a piece of perspex would be even lighter than an all steel roof? Is there some big issue I've missed?
As said many times, re-shell it, 106's aren't exactly rare, so the shell isn't a massive loss in the grand scheme of things. Although I know what you mean about feeling bad about scrapping a good car, I just scrapped a perfectly good passat after only using the engine from it, all that was wrong with it was engine issues, haha.
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Mar 26, 2010 21:40:51 GMT
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I've never quite understood the sunroof hatred from modified car crowds. What's so horrifically terrible about them? All I can think of is that internally sliding ones give less headroom, a bit more weight and are a pain if you want a cage. But surely a little pop up glass one isn't really a big issue? If you're realllyy bothered about the weight high up, surely a piece of perspex would be even lighter than an all steel roof? Is there some big issue I've missed? As said many times, re-shell it, 106's aren't exactly rare, so the shell isn't a massive loss in the grand scheme of things. Although I know what you mean about feeling bad about scrapping a good car, I just scrapped a perfectly good passat after only using the engine from it, all that was wrong with it was engine issues, haha. Shell torsional rigidity.
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Mar 26, 2010 21:44:45 GMT
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+ condensation and leaks!
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Mar 26, 2010 21:51:21 GMT
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rallye mate will be worth more when it comes to selling plus white cars rule!
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qwerty
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Reshell dilemmaqwerty
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Mar 26, 2010 22:22:10 GMT
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Hmmm I can see your dilema.
Rallye would have better re sale but is that really important? Is it more or less hassle to change a couple of doors do some welding and give the XSI a good coating of underseal, than having to swap all the running gear over to the rallye shell and potentially having to deal with very similar problems in a years time?
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keep using the 106 as a daily and grab the rally as a side project to build up in your spare time?
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stealthstylz
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Reshell dilemmastealthstylz
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I'd go for the Rallye shell but fit a non sunroof roof panel to it while yours is still working. Oh and check the rallye shell very carefully it looks like there's a rust spot behind the kit at the end of the sill.
Matt
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Mar 27, 2010 11:14:24 GMT
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I went to other way when I rolled my Rallye a few years back, couldn't find a decent Rallye shell for less than £1k so picked up a complete running XSi for £350. Don't under estimate the amount of work required for a reshell, bolting on a couple of doors and a wing is nothing compared to stripping a whole car down. You're bound to unearth a whole host of other issues you want to sort at the same time as well. Personally I do prefer the Rallye, and eventually my 106 will be transormed back into one, this time in a properly built shell with no laquer peel in sight
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Reshell dilemmaretrowagen1234
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Mar 27, 2010 12:18:45 GMT
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rallyes are amazing, one of the few pugs id own... get that!!!
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Mar 28, 2010 20:14:27 GMT
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I too love Rallyes - I really miss my old red one: But on reflection, I think I prefer the look of an XSi - It think it suits my plans more. and I've rebuilt a few 106s from bare shells, so I'd confidently tackle the swap in a long weekend. The seller has decided he doesn't want to split the shell from some other bits, so I might not be able to afford it (I was gojng to bid him down until I could, but there is someone else also interested) I'll give the seller a bell tomorrow with my offer (which, for the whole thing will be a bit cheeky, but its more than I can afford at that, really) If he says no, then I'll get my steelies sent off to JamesP for banding and crack on with sourcing some panels for it. I think I know what people are going to say, but do you reckon 8.5j with 195/45/14s (mostly) under the stock arches, or 9.5j with 225/45/14 under some JDM fibreglass nailed on arches?
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rtlkyuubi
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Mar 28, 2010 21:15:36 GMT
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I think 8.5j with some nice offset being covered in jdm arches! I think 9.5's will look way too big on such a small car
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Mar 28, 2010 21:23:51 GMT
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Well, the will be et17 5.5j wheels banded, so 8.5 will make them poke about the same as on my lupo - I'd need 9.5s to fill the J arches properly, but then it would probably drive terribly and i'd be unable to park or steer. It would look good tho ;D
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