luckygti
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Jun 19, 2009 16:44:45 GMT
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So, Mrs B visited the planning office yesterday and they have told us that we don't need planning permission We will put in the request all the same +£75 which will provide that agreement in writing so no-one can come in and complain/tear it down later in the day! We'll be talking to a carpenter mate for a quote and have looked around a bit for local timber frame guys to get quotes from. Old garage, thy days are numbered ;D
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Last Edit: Dec 8, 2009 23:22:40 GMT by luckygti
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Jun 19, 2009 17:08:09 GMT
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sweet!
Shall i get on and create the kit drawings and cutting list then??
Lewis
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luckygti
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Jun 20, 2009 23:58:35 GMT
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Reckon so mate. Not sure what we need now to get quotes and stuff. Think reallistically I'll be getting someone else to do it. Best will in the world and a dose of honesty mean that I just won't have the time to do it myself. Think I'll get the structure built and all sealed up and then do the inside myself. Going to come up with a plan at the weekend but any more advice on the way forward will be much appreciated. Nice work mate.
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luckygti
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Jul 22, 2009 19:53:55 GMT
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So, bit of an update. Haven't been home much, so this has stagnated a bit. After the positive comments from the council about not needing planning permission we applied for clarification only to receive a letter yesterday telling us that we would now need to apply! Frickin bureaucracy! So I'm now waiting for the paperwork to come through to apply. Guess it'll be a bit longer now! Thing that is really annoying is the 2 points they judged the requirement on. 1. Within 2 meters of the boundary? (The current garage is in the same location?) 2. More than 2.5 meters tall? (Er, no it isn't) All of Lewis' hard work may now be for nought!!! As you can probably tell, I am just a little bit pi$$ed off! Mind you, seeing as we were trying to keep the height of the roof down to avoid planning permission I may rethink this now! Still gives me more time to prep I guess and I could get the concrete slab laid anyway I guess. Lewis, you have PM
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Jul 22, 2009 19:58:43 GMT
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I must admit I was really supprised that they said no in the first place.
The 2m from boundary is very valid, and so is the height.
It doesn't mean they will say NO, but they do need to consider it.
Things like combustible cladding is not allowed, you should be ok with the render on the sides.
Blocking light to neighbours, which should be ok considering we dragged the roof down to stop that being an issue.
Not got your pm yet. Will read and reply!
P.s. don't worry about my work being for nothing. A drink at the gathering (if you are coming) would be payment enough!
Lewis
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Jul 23, 2009 10:19:05 GMT
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I deal with Local Authority planning officers every day and they are generally rather unhelpful! They are also not averse to giving duff advice, changing thier minds and being nobbled by local Councillors! They are also one of the few professions who don't have to stand by the advice they give (i.e. they can give you a different opinion from one week to the next). I assume you submitted some drawings for an informal opinion as to whether planning consent was needed? To be boring, here is the bit of legislation which refers to permitted development:- Development not permitted E.1 Development is not permitted by Class E if— (a) the total area of ground covered by buildings, enclosures and containers within the curtilage (other than the original dwellinghouse) would exceed 50% of the total area of the curtilage (excluding the ground area of the original dwellinghouse); (b) any part of the building, enclosure, pool or container would be situated on land forward of a wall forming the principal elevation of the original dwellinghouse; (c) the building would have more than one storey; (d) the height of the building, enclosure or container would exceed— (i) 4 metres in the case of a building with a dual-pitched roof, (ii) 2.5 metres in the case of a building, enclosure or container within 2 metres of the boundary of the curtilage of the dwellinghouse, or (iii) 3 metres in any other case; (e) the height of the eaves of the building would exceed 2.5 metres; (f) the building, enclosure, pool or container would be situated within the curtilage of a listed building; (g) it would include the construction or provision of a veranda, balcony or raised platform; (h) it relates to a dwelling or a microwave antenna; or (i) the capacity of the container would exceed 3,500 litres. If your garage meets all those criterior, it is permitted development and so doesn't need planning consent. But you may wish to obtain a "Certificate of Lawfulness" from the Local Authority to confirm this. Hope this helps - ;D
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Old Fords never die they just go sideways
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luckygti
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Jul 27, 2009 22:14:48 GMT
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Thanks for that info. Yep, does seem to be a case of short term memory with these people! Anyway, I've pretty much done all the paperwork now so will submit it when I get home at the end of the week. The worst thing? I paid £75 for them to say I need planning permission and now I have to pay another 150 to see if I'll get it! Still fingers crossed please all I'll keep you posted. Lewis. Mrs B and I will be there at the gathering. Don't bring any drink, It's on us. What's your tipple?
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Jul 28, 2009 16:53:10 GMT
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Cider! Magners and bulmers..... yummy, but cheap stuff is all good too! Tescos do a good line in strong dry cider cheep but drinkable!
No scrumpy though, can't stand the stuff!
Lewis
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Jul 28, 2009 21:32:42 GMT
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Consider it done mate Just finishing off the planning application. Guess it ain't gonna get done over the summer
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Well, dragged this up from the depths as we have a bit of an update!! First off, I finally decided to knock down the workshop between the house and the current garage. As you can see it's a fair size and was big enough for a car, but had uneven concrete floor under a floating wooden floor and was just a shed for collecting junk! I invited my brothers up and let them loose with sledge hammers and crow bars ;D ;D Much fun was had by all!! SWMBO venting And my bro finishing off!! After a few hours...... This has left us with this nice space, after breaking up 3, 4 and in places 5 layers of concrete and a huge pile of bricks for use as hardcore for the new garage base You can see down the side of the garage here ^^ the new extension concrete pad is there now but I can't find the pictures Next step, having finally been granted planning permission ;D ;D is to clear out the garage. There's a lot of curse word in there including the 205, so there's the incentive to get it back on it's wheels. I've had a proper loft ladder put in so a lot of the stuff will be going up there. Think I'm going to be busy over the Christmas holidays Demolition party part 2, second week of Jan!!
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Last Edit: Dec 10, 2009 18:01:46 GMT by luckygti
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Nice one Pete, glad to see you getting stuck in Hope the weather holds...
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Dec 10, 2009 18:04:39 GMT
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Me too Dave!! Still, we're looking at the first week of Feb, it's guaranteed to be throwing it down!! Going to have to find a decent way of covering the pit, otherwise it'll be a swimming pool
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Jan 19, 2010 22:33:03 GMT
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Well, Christmas has finally gone, and my brothers 40th as well so we finally got everyone back up to Suffolk to knock down the garage. Like I said before I'd boarded the loft out so most of my Xmas holiday was spent going up and down a ladder to empty the garage. With a bad back it was all a bit emotional, but we got there in the end! This gave me enough room to park up the new acquisition for a couple of weeks in the dry (well damp, but no snow!) The day of demolition this is what we had to take down, It was pretty dodgy when the roof came off But a bit of judicious wall pushing later, a big bonfire and multiple trips to the skip out front leave us with this space And just so you can see the kind of room we'll end up with, here's my new T3 parked on it ;D Work starts next week hopefully, I'm away for three weeks so by the time I get back I'll have a new garage and workshop, Get in (Yes, I'm pretty excited)
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YAY!! I'm liking the progress, that would be an ideal size garage for me Onwards and upwards
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Jan 20, 2010 10:37:45 GMT
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Oh breifly looking at those planning rules. My neighbours wooden shed that was damaged in the big fire in my yard a while ago. It was right up against the stone wall seperating our properties. It had roofing felt on the walls and drapped over my side of the wall. Admittedly, the shed had been there as far back as I can remember. But about 10 years ago, the sorted it up and put the roofing felt on it. Was that wrong of them?
Having said that. There used to be 5 sheds in my yard beside the wall. But I took them down, as they were falling down. My dad had put them up years ago
Thats some good work youve done on your place
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luckygti
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Jan 20, 2010 13:43:51 GMT
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Cheers chaps, getting pretty excited now Alec, truth be told, I don't think the planners know what they're talking about, it really does seem to depend on the individual on the day! I think part of the reason this one had issues is the size of it, garden sheds and the like seem to be OK. I was just glad to get it all sorted
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Jan 30, 2010 18:04:47 GMT
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skinnylew
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Jan 30, 2010 21:55:20 GMT
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coool not building it yourself then lol
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Jan 30, 2010 23:50:52 GMT
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coool not building it yourself then lol Nope, I only get home at weekends and even then they're pretty hit and miss. This time round I'm away for a month, then back for a weekend, then another 2 away It's a PITA and explains why the 205 has taken so long! Me and Mrs B decided that we were kidding ourselves to think that we could build it so the pro's are in! It's done then!! (We'll just be paying for it for a while and my savings are gone Mind you, not like they're making me any money in the bank )
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Good point I think i would never get it finished if i was building it!! At least then it'll be built to a good standard and be a nice treat for you on your return
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