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Feb 13, 2010 16:01:24 GMT
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i've just been to look at an astra GTE but it only had the bottom half of the engine and the lady who's house it's at couldn't tell me any thing about it (belongs to her son who's out of the country).
just wondering if any one could give me some advice on what to look for to tell if it's an 8v or 16v? 2 things i noticed were that it had rear disc breaks and the digi dash, but i know nothing about Vauxhalls so i don't know if these came on all GTE's or not?
any help on this would be much appreciated ;D
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Feb 13, 2010 16:44:54 GMT
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`state
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Feb 13, 2010 17:02:08 GMT
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Its an easy swop to discs so that doesent really tell you anything and both 8 and 16v came with the digi clocks.
Best bet is engine number,Next to the dipstick on the block where it meets the gearbox.Or the pistons.8v ones have a dish in the tops.16v ones have the 4 cutouts for the valves.
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Look at all the plastic people who live without a care.Try to sit with me around my table,but never bring a chair.
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Feb 13, 2010 18:15:20 GMT
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theres a difference for the gearbox linkgage where it goes through teh bulkhead as well.. think the 16v one has a bigger gear linkage tunnel or something.. like said above get on the mk2 forum they a good bunch of lads and will help you out
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Feb 13, 2010 19:52:30 GMT
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16v ones have the 4 cutouts for the valves. now i feel like a right tit, i was standing looking at the top of the pistons and it didn't even register. guess it was a case of not seeing the wood for the tree's  thanks for the help and i'll sign up to that web site in a min |
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Feb 13, 2010 21:16:20 GMT
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Astra GTE 16v had GTE16V on the tailgate. Dead give away.   The little symbol is 'Connelly Leather', which came in the GTE Champions (only in Burgundy). 8v just had GTE on the back:  8v and 16v are similar blocks. 8v is a good engine, and the car will be less shafted. These cars are lovely looking things. There's usually loads of white unmolested ones in ebay with standard alloys. |
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Last Edit: Feb 13, 2010 21:17:37 GMT by DavidB
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Feb 13, 2010 21:27:32 GMT
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if it had 16v on the boot i wouldn't be asking on here lol
any one know how easy to get good bottom ends are for the 16v's?
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Feb 13, 2010 21:49:10 GMT
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16v had the double tail pipe too.
My brother had more than 16 astra's, I would ask him, but sadly he's no longer with us.
Good luck with it
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`state
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Feb 13, 2010 22:19:52 GMT
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You don't see that many xe blocks for sale unless damaged.You get plenty of piston/rod sets on ebay tho from people converting to turbo.You can use ecotec blocks and full xev engines can be had for 100 quid or there abouts.Full xe engines are about 250-350.
The xe block is easy to rebuild too with new shells/rings ect and then at least you know you`ve got a good one.
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Look at all the plastic people who live without a care.Try to sit with me around my table,but never bring a chair.
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Feb 13, 2010 23:03:32 GMT
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was going to say 16v had double pipes on back box and 8v single. any interior pics? often the 16v had what was called rainbow seats (stripes were diagnal multi coloured) often the 8v were grey with red vertical stripes 8v were 2.0 XE engines (same as a mk3 SRI), think pre D reg were 1.8 16v were 2.0 C20LET or eco tec. LET always had a slight edge on the eco tec. although out of the 8v and 16v i owned the 8v was deffinatly the most reliable, managed to blow the head twice on the 16v  flew well when it was on the road |
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Steve
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Feb 13, 2010 23:12:14 GMT
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Ummm, slightly wrong ^^^^^^  8valve was the 1.8(18ne) and 2.0 (c20ne/seh 115/130bhp) 16valve was 20xe/c20xe 147bhp The LET was the turbocharged variant of the 16valve fitted to the the cavalier and calibra. Just a minor correction Steve |
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Last Edit: Feb 13, 2010 23:13:22 GMT by Steve
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Feb 13, 2010 23:20:51 GMT
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DOH.... been a few years but right over the seats and tail pipe though ?   |
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Feb 13, 2010 23:25:35 GMT
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Pretty sure the tailpipe thing is right, not sure on the trim. Generally i don't look at trim, as long as it has a drivers seat and a steering wheel i don't look any further ;D Steve Oh, and wecome to RetroRides retrochic  |
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Feb 13, 2010 23:45:19 GMT
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thanking you ;D
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yeah we knew about the tail pipes but although this car had twin pipes it was an after market system so knew that could mean any thing.
the only thing we were told about the engine was 'the pistons had gone' so whether it was as simple as just warn rings or it melted a piston i don't know. waiting for an email back from the owner to find out more.
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Last Edit: Feb 14, 2010 1:13:27 GMT by tali100
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16v deffo came in black !
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Feb 14, 2010 11:00:26 GMT
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Don't go by the seats.My mate had a 8v with the rainbow trim.This was done when new at the factory.I have seen a lot of 8v's with the 16v's interior.The steering wheels is one way to tell (again this could of been changed).The 8v has GTE in the center cap and i think is NOT a leather wheel.The 16v has GTE 16v in the center cap and IS leather.
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Steve
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Feb 14, 2010 11:07:20 GMT
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I think the only clear cut way to find out what youve got is as someone has already said is to check the engine number. It will be marked on the block, on the edge facing the bellhousing.
Should be something like "18e 3323232323" its those 3/4 digits at the front that you want to know.
Steve
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Feb 14, 2010 17:42:08 GMT
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flew well when it was on the road 
