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Jan 17, 2006 16:33:48 GMT
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I now the traditional ModelA/ModelB/Model 40 ford, but they are pricey for glass never mind metal.
I know people have used Austin A40 Devons and Somersets and Austin 7 Rubies and Ford Model Y's and Pilots here in the past.
I lincoln and Mercury sleds have been copied by everything from Morris Minors to Volvo Amazons and Rover P5 coupes.
But, what could I use for something different. Maybe something 40's style rather than 30's style based.
Will end up quite low, so bulky might work to add to substance. Want full fendered, and maybe running boards, although blended fenders might be different.
I want it to have a full interior and modern touches not be a stripped out racer.
Any thoughts on anything not too large, but with decent room and a "big" persona?
Maybe the sort of thing a PT cruiser might have been based on. I have to admit I do quite like the Volvo PV544. Wonder if you could Rod that?
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Jan 17, 2006 17:00:16 GMT
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meatballturbo in da house: I have to admit I do quite like the Volvo PV544. Wonder if you could Rod that?Does the pope have a funny hat??? Does Dolly Parton sleep on her back??? The Volvo PV makes great Hot Rod material, personally I would love to build a "Gasser" style car with straight front axle and 12 spoke spindle mount front wheels, pie crust Firestone white wall slicks on ET-Mags or Halibrands, a hot B20 4-banger with 4-port Holley carb, open headers and stripped interior, cover it all in flat grey, black or curse word yellow and I'm happy as a clam.... The PV was used alot in early days of Drag Racing here in Sweden and here's some of them.... BTW, an awesome website of what we did in the early days of Drag Racing in Sweden: race68.com/index1.htm Some of the cars I have driven are in there.....
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Jan 17, 2006 17:55:32 GMT
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Peugeot 203?
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Last Edit: Jan 18, 2006 9:14:54 GMT by Blue850
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Jan 17, 2006 17:59:32 GMT
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Renault 4CV
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Jan 17, 2006 17:59:38 GMT
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Most early British tin makes good hotrods, just in miniature compared to the American bodied ones.
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Jan 17, 2006 18:06:39 GMT
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pre 49, steel or glass, you can't get away from it anywhere.... lalalalalalalalalalala!
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1941 Wolseley Not Rod - 1956 Humber Hawk - 1957 Daimler Conquest - 1966 Buick LeSabre - 1968 Plymouth Sport Fury - 1968 Ford Galaxie - 1969 Ford Country Squire - 1969 Mercury Marquis - 1970 Morris Minor - 1970 Buick Skylark - 1970 Ford Galaxie - 1971 Ford Galaxie - 1976 Continental Mark IV - 1976 Ford Capri - 1994 Ford Fiesta
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Jan 17, 2006 18:47:36 GMT
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let me find you hunch back racings PV-544 even if you don't know swedish I'm shure you can work that out www.hunchbackracing.se
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Last Edit: Jan 17, 2006 18:59:18 GMT by samyboy
once again rocking with 1117cc and 4 gears!
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Jan 17, 2006 18:58:33 GMT
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There used to be a really nice custom PV444 around years and years ago. I wonder what happened to it. Used to love it when I was a kid and saw it at the old Belle Vue Custom Car show. Like Johny says, pretty much any old Brit tin, and most Euro or anywhere else tin can be rodded. So long as it looks right, it is right IMO. Problem with early Brit stuff is that its usually got a very small engine bay so with a decent motor in there you'll be sitting in the back seat to drive it... Packaging is the challenge.
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1941 Wolseley Not Rod - 1956 Humber Hawk - 1957 Daimler Conquest - 1966 Buick LeSabre - 1968 Plymouth Sport Fury - 1968 Ford Galaxie - 1969 Ford Country Squire - 1969 Mercury Marquis - 1970 Morris Minor - 1970 Buick Skylark - 1970 Ford Galaxie - 1971 Ford Galaxie - 1976 Continental Mark IV - 1976 Ford Capri - 1994 Ford Fiesta
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Jan 17, 2006 19:14:38 GMT
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Also I think the mistake a lot of rodders make with British tin is to use wheels that are too big. There's a black model Y doing the rounds at the moment and its running on 14" wheels instead of the usual 15's and I think it makes the whole car look better, sleeker, lower. 15's 16's and 17's can be pulled off on a bigger car but it looks like it's on stilts sometimes in a smaller body.
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Jan 17, 2006 19:23:51 GMT
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Ford Vedette? There's none here but I've come across a fair few in battered but solid condition in France.
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Jan 17, 2006 19:24:44 GMT
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FX4: They even come with Hot Rod steel rims as standard! Daimler Conquest: ...and I know where there is one that needs doing! I know it's not exactly new...but this just goes to show what a little 'outside the box' thinking can produce. That could be almost any seperate fendered car...Minor? Topolino? PV544?
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Last Edit: Jan 17, 2006 19:25:24 GMT by rmad
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Jan 17, 2006 19:37:00 GMT
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Riley RM?
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Jan 17, 2006 19:46:04 GMT
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the Topolino was a popular basis for drag cars and the like back in the day.
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1941 Wolseley Not Rod - 1956 Humber Hawk - 1957 Daimler Conquest - 1966 Buick LeSabre - 1968 Plymouth Sport Fury - 1968 Ford Galaxie - 1969 Ford Country Squire - 1969 Mercury Marquis - 1970 Morris Minor - 1970 Buick Skylark - 1970 Ford Galaxie - 1971 Ford Galaxie - 1976 Continental Mark IV - 1976 Ford Capri - 1994 Ford Fiesta
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Jan 17, 2006 19:58:03 GMT
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topolinos are still run in the wild bunch series
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Jan 17, 2006 21:05:23 GMT
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Good to see the PV's drag racing. Wanted to avoid the gasser style though, seems everybody does that, and it looks a kind of euro copy of the Willys racing coupes. Don't want small-small (A35 etc/topolino/and that) something arround the last escort, or maybe upto Sierra/Mondeo size. RileyRMs are nice as they are, and that Daimler looks a little big, but I do like the lake style beetle. Used to have this thing about MK3 Zephyr/Zodiacs when I saw one as a kid in the 70's (and now life on mars is on). But that, or a cresta, or a cambridge/oxford, or a consul would end up looking more custom or again gasser style, and very square sided. I want curves and bulges which is why I thought PV544. I figured with a little creativety and a knackered (smacked or rusted) 200 series or 700 series turbo, you could have an older car, with modern running gear almost all volvo and looking low and moody to cruise, rather than stacked up and looking to race. Of course a fully mapable engine managment with decent WI and NOS control would make sure it could still hustle. What is interchangability like between really old and fairly new RWD volovs? Or would I be better using a 123 (etc) Amazon as the basis?
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Jan 17, 2006 21:14:44 GMT
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I know someone with a Minor..........
Remember the P4 Rover in Custom Car recently? Red job, updated running gear on resto style body work. Looked lovely. Or that Black Pilot? So subtle.
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Last Edit: Jan 17, 2006 21:17:03 GMT by wagoneer
Peugeot 307sw - Suzuki SV650S - MX5.
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Jan 17, 2006 22:05:16 GMT
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I know someone with a Minor.......... Remember the P4 Rover in Custom Car recently? Red job, updated running gear on resto style body work. Looked lovely. Or that Black Pilot? So subtle. Minor? Who's that then? The P4 was a Burnham jobbie...I saw it in progress at his olf Northfleet 'shop...very impressive. The Pilot was there at the same time. Paul and his team certainly can turn them out. (his son still drives a lowered Nova though!)
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Jan 17, 2006 22:16:42 GMT
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mk3 fiesta and quad hybrid.... and as luck would have it, got both of those for sale at the moment ;D
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1988 V8 Rangey Bobtail :: 1968 Volvo Amazon 133 Ratrod :: 1977 Land Rover 88 :: 1985 Opel Monza GSE :: 1983 MKII Fiesta
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I don't knnow about the 444 but I think the 544 and certainly the 120 "Amazon" series use the Volvo B engine which is bolt-in interchangeable (seen it done a few times) and I *think* the B engne continued up to the 2.2 EFI used in the last of the 240s in the early 90s. I'd guess it will be a fairly sweet bolt over to fit it. IIRC they were still using the 4 speed & overdrive box in those cars right to the end. I looked at a 240 estate on about a G plate which had one.
Not sure how tunable that lump is.
The 120 is more common here and is a sleeker looking car so would make a good custom, I've seen a few done as proper Kustoms and they suit the look well. You'll probably also find the spares situation easier, there are a couple of specialists. I don't think prices are OTT on them either.
I know where theres a P1800 sitting doing nothing but I fear it might be too far gone. I only saw one of them done as a custom and it was a long time ago. It would really suit a good makeover though.
Best thing is just to cruise eBay and the local autotrader and see what comes up.
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1941 Wolseley Not Rod - 1956 Humber Hawk - 1957 Daimler Conquest - 1966 Buick LeSabre - 1968 Plymouth Sport Fury - 1968 Ford Galaxie - 1969 Ford Country Squire - 1969 Mercury Marquis - 1970 Morris Minor - 1970 Buick Skylark - 1970 Ford Galaxie - 1971 Ford Galaxie - 1976 Continental Mark IV - 1976 Ford Capri - 1994 Ford Fiesta
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