Nick
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Hey guys,
I am after a tube bender...which i thought would be simple enough, just a simple hand operated thing, only drawback is i don't seem to be able to find any in this country.
on american sites, i come across things such as JD2 tube benders, hand operated ones for about $300, i don't want to/cant afford to buy a hydraulic tube bender. yet i cant even find a simple hand operated one over here, and would prefer to buy from here as opposed to ordering from america and suffering at the costs of postage as well as tax/duties.
so anyone have any ideas?
cheers Nick
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idea stolen from rattely eddie.
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just had a look on screw fix, nothing... but there was a pipe freezing kit if you ever need one.
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Tube bender?arthurbrown
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Last Edit: Jan 9, 2006 17:24:42 GMT by arthurbrown
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Mr K
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A massive bender? Edit: damn you beat me to it NickB...
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Last Edit: Jan 9, 2006 17:43:31 GMT by Mr K
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Nick
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pipe benders are different to tube benders. tube has different wall thickness. this is the maximum tube stuff i'd be bending 45x2.5mm, 50x2mm tube. www.jd2.com/ the model 3 bender is the one i saw in america, don't know if that does the tube i would need but thats the sort of thing i am after.
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idea stolen from rattely eddie.
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slater
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Tube bender?slater
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It all depends on what you want to bend and how good you need it. these are curse word for most bending tasks, they are designed to bend gas main which is very thick walled and measured by its inner diameter. Most tube is measured buy its outside diameter which renders all the formers useless!!. On top of that they will not bend in a smooth bend like you get with a mandrel bender. The inside of the bend will crumple as its compressed and the top of the bend will go flat where its streched. www.plumbworld.co.uk/235-16145that ones i mandrel bender but will only be any good for bending very thin walled and copper pipe as you simply cant get enough leverage. I have a large floor standing one and it struggles to bend 1.5" exhaust pipe or 1" CDS even with a bit of scafold pole on it to get more leverage. You have to use oxyacetylene to heat up the metal befoe you attempt to bend! The moral of the story is unless you have £1000s to spend on a hydrolic mandrel bender you will find it very hard to bend anything other than copper pipe
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Nick
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hmm really ?damnation, everyone i have spoke to from yankeeland who used those sort of manual tube benders say that they get gooid results. considering its hand operated. some of the guys on there have made some pretty impressive bumpers and lightbars for their pickup trucks using that jd2 manual bender.
I'm just hoping that everyone still understands the difference in a tube and a pipe bender:S
i cant even find anything listed as a tube bender over here thats not a super expensive bit of kit
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idea stolen from rattely eddie.
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slater
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The JD2 one you mention looks pretty good design but i cant see it bending 45x2.5mm or 50x2mm if it was hydrolic yeh maybe but i reckon the manual one would struggle The one i have is simlar and i relly struggled to bend 1" CDS My dad says take a look here, their in essex www.tubela.com/
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Nick
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thanks for the link:) i'll see what i can find out from there. cheers dude.
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idea stolen from rattely eddie.
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old skool - fill said pipe with sand, heat and bend. Aparently thats how they used to do it in the war!
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old skool - fill said pipe with sand, heat and bend. Aparently thats how they used to do it in the war! crikey - you learn something on here everyday!!
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hehe ive tryed it when i did my cage with one of theose gas pipe benders, maybe it helped a bit but the tube still kinked.
Can also get bending springs that do the same thing
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Mr K
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fill said pipe with sand, heat and bend. Thats how I used to do it in the war! Back in my day, there where 7 o' us livin' in't shoe box in middle o' M4.....
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Last Edit: Jan 9, 2006 20:24:04 GMT by Mr K
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Nick
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yeha ive heard all about these pipe filling sand techniques. man thats hassle. i just need to bend and go ahaha
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idea stolen from rattely eddie.
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fill said pipe with sand, heat and bend. Thats how I used to do it in the war! Back in my day, there where 7 o' us livin' in't shoe box in middle o' M4..... ...Only 7? By 'eck, you wa' posh... ;D ;D
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... the only injury I sustained was a bumped head when I let the seatbelt of without realizing the car was upside down and that's not really the car's fault.
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Mr K
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P.S. have you considerd getting a solid bar bending it in the hydrolic bender, then beating sheet steel around it to make two halfs, then welding them together??? i was going to try this as i needed some tight bends in 1.25" pipe for a college project, but seeing as time is running out, and its only a 'prototype' which i can cut and shut about at a later date I'm just cutting the pipe at 22.5degrees at two points and welding it back together. far from ideal - but ill' live.
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Not sure if they are upto the task but there are these. www.northerntooluk.com/product/default.asp?id=495I use this company at work and have always toyed with the idea of getting one of these and trying it. I have a hydraulic pipe bender at work and I have used that on some exhaust systems I have made before without any problem. Only for gentle bends though.
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pipe benders are different to tube benders. tube has different wall thickness. this is the maximum tube stuff i'd be bending 45x2.5mm, 50x2mm tube. www.jd2.com/ the model 3 bender is the one i saw in america, don't know if that does the tube i would need but thats the sort of thing i am after. That sounds like Cage tubing and theres no way that model 3 hand bender will cope with that Used to use a similar bender making Racecar Wishbones, with a 7' long bar on it you would put all your weight behind it to bend 1"5/8 x 5/8 flat sided oval in 16g You need a serious amount of power to bend 2" tube, even exhaust type thicknesses give you a work out. Might be cheaper to get a cage manufacturer to do the peices for you
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