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I sort of reluctantly started the radiator relocate this weekend. First off was to decide where to put the grille. As much as I love the look of the OT2000 Mostra the big grille in the center just isn't what I want for my car but the one on the bottom is promising.  So lets try to hide it behind the bumper  Here goes nothin'!  No turning back now. Even the car looks scared of what I am doing  And trimmed up with some door edge guard.  I put the bumper back on and dropped the car to the ground and it is pretty well hidden. I have no idea where that picture went though. Then I started the plumbing. I went ahead and used 1" EMT conduit since it is galvanized, easy to bend and should last longer than I need it to. It took quite a few hours of installing, marking, removing, bending, reinstalling, marking, removing, bending over and over but the fit is pretty nice. Most importantly they are not the lowest part of the car.   More tomorrow........ |
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Even the car looks scared of what I am doing It does indeed. Made me laugh ;D Looks almost stock with the trim  Been following this thread silently for a while now - your work is outstanding! And very inspirational. Keep it up! I love your car! Cheers, Jan |
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I think it'll look fine when finished, almost factory as mentioned. It's also well worth it if it gets the car working better than before.
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Jul 26, 2011 16:45:15 GMT
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Your car looks surprised now! |
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OK so it took me a bit longer than expected but it is mostly done......driveable at least, this thing will never be done. I was just going to poke some holes through the firewall and run the hoses though it but I had a better idea at the last minute. I fabbed up some bulkhead fittings and a new water pump inlet  I wasn't happy with the location of the coil pack anyway so I decided to move it at the same time. I cut out an aluminum bulkhead panel and mounted everything up  Mounted it where the radiator used to sit  Not as clean as I had hoped but better than it was before. I also rerouted the thermostat bypass line into the expansion tank for easier filling of the coolant system and it worked a treat! I threw a bucket of water over the car for the first time in a few months and here is the result   More noticable than I had hoped but not bad looking at all. I am going to start driving it tomorrow to see how it works. The next job is to install proper shrouds in the trunk to duct the hot air out under the car. |
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Seth
South East
MorrisOxford TriumphMirald HillmanMinx BorgwardIsabellaCombi
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Very neat job - as always. I can't help thinking that some sort of mesh across the opening might make it less noticable? |
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DutyFreeSaviour
Europe
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I'm always astounded on the in-depth build ongoing here - fantastic attention to details and one of the most informative builds on the site.
I really appreciate the info - please keep it coming.
Car looks fantastic.....
John
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Back from the dead..... kind of
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75nut
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Jul 29, 2011 10:47:54 GMT
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Excellent work as always, love these little Fiats, with the comments re some mesh, think it would finish it off lovely!
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79 MGB Roadster
88 Saab 900i Convertible
94 MK1 MX5 1.6
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I have been following your build for some time. I used to own an 850 sedan in the exact same colour. Recently I was doing some searching on the OT2000 Mostra and came upon this link that I thought you might appreciate. www.abarth-gmr.be/pix/OT2000.pdf |
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Thanks for the link. I am gonna be trying to translate that all night.
The good news is that the rad relocate has worked. Almost too well. I was running a 160 degree thermostat and allowing the 195/175 fan switch take care of temp control. I didn't even think about how natural airflow would affect it. It now runs too cool even in 90F+ temps. Result! A 185 or 195 deg thremostat will fix that right up.
I still need to shroud the trunk/boot area.
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Wow that works really well, looks pretty factory which is always good. Nice to see this getting better and better |
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+1 for the mesh infront of the radiator. Could do with something that reflected the kind of "Gills" in the front badge.
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1994 Rover Metro
1994 Peugeot 405 Estate
1991 Rover Metro Gti 16v
2001 Fiat Seicento Sporting
1999 Fiat Punto 1.2
1994 Peugeot 106 Xnd (x3)
1991 Westfield 7
2004 Landrover 110 SW
2003 Seat Ibiza 1.9Tdi Sport
1959 Ford 107e Prefect
1992 Suzuki Vitara
2008 Skoda Fabia
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I finally took care of the inside trunk area. I folded up some aluminum sheet and riveted it together  At this point it is very apparent that I need a bead roller. It would go a long way towards making this look a little less "made in a shed". But this is about function so it has to go in now.  Some grommets to protect the battery leads and it is looking pretty sharp! Looks like I over bent the rear flange. I might just cut that off when I have it out next time. I did however finally use the dimple dies that I made some time ago. I was concerned that with all the sheet metal I removed from the front of the car I had also removed a lot of rigidity, so I am going to put some stiffness back.........  With a chassis brace. It still needs to have mounting flanges welded on and to be bolted in place. Right now it is just wedged in. I wanted to move the battery as far forward and to the passenger side as I could to offset the driver weight bias. The old battery is way too large so it will be replaced with something smaller and hidden in a folded box, but for now it is complete, clean and functional  |
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Great link! I have been following your build for some time. I used to own an 850 sedan in the exact same colour. Recently I was doing some searching on the OT2000 Mostra and came upon this link that I thought you might appreciate. www.abarth-gmr.be/pix/OT2000.pdf |
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Looks great!
What are that chances of some video of this thing going Zero to 60???
Any performance specs yet???
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Can't believe I've not commented on this car before as I've been following this for ages. Very impressive build and loving its evolution.
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Living the dream. Restore's classic car's for a living!
Project Racer: '99 Arosa
Project Touge Outlaw: '87 Porsche 924S
Project Street sleeper: '95 BMW E34 540i/A Touring
Project Mafia: '04 BMW E53 3.0d
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Sept 9, 2011 22:02:05 GMT
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Ditchdigger,
Is that bike taking all of your time from this project?
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Sept 10, 2011 0:40:14 GMT
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No. Sadly the missus is still recovering. More time in hospital. Its going well now so I hope to get more time to tinker. I actually will have quite a bit to update soon. I spent quite a bit of money on bits and hope to start changing a few things up.
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Sept 12, 2011 4:31:45 GMT
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There has been an intermittent issue since I have turned the boost up so high. I did some datalogging and you can see it here  See how the Throttle position goes to 100% aka wide open, RPM rises steadily, AFR's settle in the 12.1:1 range and MAP rises to a peak of 9psi and then drops off to 6 or so and then BANG! shoots to the moon. It looks so gentle as lines on a graph but as it is happeneing it is a shuddering, shaking violent event. I have gone through everything trying to figure it out. Even going so far as to replace the turbo center cartridge with no positive result. My friend James listened to me complaining for a while, then said "It's your wastegate" The man turbocharges hondas for a living and probably has 100 cars worth of experience under his belt so it wasn't wisdom I was going to dismiss. I started playing with the wastegate actuator and by lengthening it I was able to make the problem happen all the time. Result! shortening it back up made it come and go again. Tearing the turbo apart I found the wastegate arm totally worn out. It was just flopping around and only sealing half the time. At least I finally think I know what is going on. Lets fix it!  All those heat cycles have taken their toll on this once pretty exhaust. Who cares lets start hacking it up  Installing the flange  New external wastegate in place and starting the dump tube That pesky internal flapper shouldn't be able to leak now!  Done and done!  Lets get it installed! That bay is getting awfully full back there  I took it out for a spin and learned that I had the 7psi spring in. After it cooled I installed the 10psi spring as well. The springs are all different diameters and in my mind that means that I can mix and match them to my needs. If I hit 17psi on the way to work in the morning my suspicions will be confirmed  Other news. An Audi 80 4cyl flywheel has found its way into my possesion. Just one more step closer to the 5spd swap. I have destroyed the rear tires on the car ;D Bad news is that these skinny 165/45's are no longer avaliable in the US. I bought some 195/45/15's and will flare the car to make them fit  more when I get time. |
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