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I may have to build one this year for the garage we hope to get if the new house deal goes through.
Love the rocket style feet on Dez's burner.
What sort of pipe can one get away with ??
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Jan 23, 2010 12:20:16 GMT
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Quick bit of advice needed - staying at relys in Ireland and they just had 9.5kw wood burner installed, by a pro. We're operating as per instructions but are getting a bit belch of black smoke everytime we open the door. What's this likely to be, a blocked chimney, not enough air in the room (no air bricks or similar but 'pro' installer said no issues with that!)? It's also not getting very hot.
The combustion looks pretty good but is taking far longer to heat the stove itself than our one at home. After maybe 40mins you can still just about touch the stove on this one, at home you'd be looking at burns if you did the same.....
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Jan 23, 2010 12:27:44 GMT
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Open flued gas appliances over 7Kw need ventilation normally so I'd say at 9.5Kw you could do with some ventilation to help get complete combustion. I s'pose the chimney could be sooted up - depends what your burning?
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Jan 23, 2010 21:40:14 GMT
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Pretty sure iv got some flu Bruce i will have a look tommorow and let you know.
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stefan
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Jan 23, 2010 22:13:37 GMT
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In Ireland the regs are diffrent to over here but not much on solid fuel you need a vent for anything over 5KW for 9.5KW about a 50mm core vent should do.
Other thing could be over hanging trees, door open to kitchen with extractor fan on, top of chimney is not the right hight to suit the roof creating down draft winds, chimney needs cleaning or even the installed flue is not big enough for the appliance.
If the chimney is not lined then there may be no flaunching at the top of the stove pipe leadind to the smoke milling around in a large void that will reduce draft.
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Jan 27, 2010 22:11:28 GMT
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In Ireland the regs are diffrent to over here but not much on solid fuel you need a vent for anything over 5KW for 9.5KW about a 50mm core vent should do. Other thing could be over hanging trees, door open to kitchen with extractor fan on, top of chimney is not the right hight to suit the roof creating down draft winds, chimney needs cleaning or even the installed flue is not big enough for the appliance. If the chimney is not lined then there may be no flaunching at the top of the stove pipe leadind to the smoke milling around in a large void that will reduce draft. Thanks for that, turns out there was no lining and chiment cap looks wrong, so expect you hit nail on the head with the smoke milling. At one point it started running out the air vents into the room which was unsettling! He's gonna get it looked at. |
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Feb 11, 2010 19:13:04 GMT
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The bloke who lives on site at me yard in a 30Ft caravan had this deliverd today, OK i spose for £65 (ebay) i'll let you know how good or bad it is next week  when he's finished making the flue for it  |
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Feb 11, 2010 20:52:14 GMT
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that's a cute design.
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Feb 14, 2010 11:37:18 GMT
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Havent read all this thread,and you may already know...not teaching anyone how to suck eggs etc.........If you fit a baffle plate inside the bottle under the flu hole,so that smoke can roll over the top of the flamesand not disappear directly up the flue,the smoke will ignite ,giving better heat.Ive found this also will prevent flames going up the flue,causing the (usually) thin flue tube to burn through.
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Gilesy
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Feb 14, 2010 12:25:14 GMT
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Nice tip that Rod! Will keep my imagination fired as my project goes on! Got to do something constructive 'til I find a lock-up for the Mini. I saw this thread a few weeks back and it got me thinking, told a mate and he decided he wants one for his shed. Then I spotted this little jolly pain in the backside lurking in a hedgerow on my way to work  A moment's fly un-tipping and he was mine ;D Perfick for what I want, but he's half-full and I've no means of using the contents. Still working out what's the best way to "dispose" of the gas!  |
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Last Edit: Feb 14, 2010 12:28:56 GMT by Gilesy
1991 Mini Neon - Gone
1991 Polo Coupe - Gone
1987 Scirocco Scala - Gone
1991 Scirocco GTII - Gone
1980 Mini 1000 - Gone
1998 Fiesta - in flux
1999 Saab 9-5 2.3t SE - the tidy, blown Swedish modern
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Gilesy
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Feb 14, 2010 15:28:47 GMT
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For those a bit unsure about flushing the bottle prior to cutting -
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1991 Mini Neon - Gone
1991 Polo Coupe - Gone
1987 Scirocco Scala - Gone
1991 Scirocco GTII - Gone
1980 Mini 1000 - Gone
1998 Fiesta - in flux
1999 Saab 9-5 2.3t SE - the tidy, blown Swedish modern
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Feb 20, 2010 10:34:57 GMT
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Any ideas on a safe way how to put the flue through a wooden roof on a workshop.As we all know wood burns,And the seal has got to be water tight.
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Peace,Max signature height = 80px
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Mar 29, 2010 21:43:01 GMT
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Sorry to dig this up, but we have this little one in the corner of the workshop at work:  |
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Thread ressurection Batman !!
I have to look at building a smallish logburner now that the shed is on its way.
Question for the experienced guys.....
What can one use for a chimney flue ?
I guess 4 inch pipe is good, but what sort of pipe, would old fashioned steel irrigation pipe work.
Does one have to go stainless?
Would an offcut of random steel pipe work ?
What should I watch out for?
Ohhh, and my plan is to build something with moderate looks as well, so expect a copy of somethig you have seen before, unless I can figure out something sexier.
I still need to start collecting the steel bits needed.
Oh, and Dez, it this is a thread hijack, then sorry. I just remembered this thread has the most pics and info in it.
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bought this last week, cost me £50   my lad was begging me to light a fire, only prob was it was 28deg outside ;D I caved in and lit it but thought why not put it to good use while he's gazing at it so.................  went down a treat with the bbq  |
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Long story, but in short..... I had to come to Bristol for 2 days training this week, almost 4 hours drive, due to traffic onditions. After a few false starts before, I made it to visit Deli Dave and Rosie in Malmesbury after work last night. I have known and become good friends with Dave over time while building the Grizz-Pod and he is always a willing mentor and teacher with many great ideas on saving effort and making things easier when building. An amazing evening of tea, biscuits, chat, sharing (me being constantly amazed at both of them and their hidden skills) stories and enjoying Scoobie the dogs company..... Earlier on I got a message from Nicola to see if I had placed a bid on a French Art Deco woodburner stove (which is still in France right now)on Ebay, this was for the new shed, I had started looking around the night before on Ebay to see what home made ones cost compared to me making one, and then discovered the French stoves and sent her a link...... I mentioned this to Dave while chatting and he and Rosie gave each other a look, upon which he asked me if I wanted a stove, oh and it would be for nothing. My obvious reply was along the lines of Yes please, if it is what we are looking for Versus a home built one, which was still very much in my mind. They took me to the "Wood shed" and under a load of kindling and chopped up pallets was an old Esse Dragon stove. I texted a pic to Nicola, her instant response was "LOVELY, How much ? " to which Dave replied "Its yours if you want it" WOW WOW WOW !! Thank you Dave & Rosie ! I am sure you will agree, making your own burner is awesome and a great exercise, but getting given a beautifull, characterful vintage stove beats that hands down. So now it is in the back of the car, along with a massive length of offcut flexible stainless flue pipe from one of Dave's jobs. It needs some cleaning, replacement of the door glass, and the cast iron inner grate managed to break while we were loading it ( easy to fix ) Pics of the stove when I get home and have unloaded it. Here is a Google pic of an Esse Dragon. I love the detail. The top ornate grid comes off to leave you with space for 2 large pots or kettles.  |
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Awesome!! Nice one (you lucke blighter!) I'm halfway through building a gas bottle one at the mo, but then got distracted by an idea for a gas bottle fire pit ;D which I'm less than halfway through lol |
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Remember the days when sex was safe and motorsport was dangerous. Vintage bling always attracts pussy. |
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grizz, nice one.....thats a real nice burner there
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Here's my one, bought off ebay. looked good but turns out bloke hadn't burnt off the old paint before painting black so this..  Left it looking like:  Emailed the seller and got a refund! Painted up and now looks like this:  Also fitted the flue seen in pic 2, worked a treat at the weekend. |
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It seems like years ago when this thread started and i posted that i had my Mk1 garage log burner. Since then, and after getting a few ideas off here Mk has been built, used and extended to keep me warm through the winter months (down to the t shirt while in there last winter at its coldest Starting with a big propane bottle i built this, complete with ash draw, and inlet to accept forced air feed for when using the burner as a forge, the chimney is truck exhaust pipe and goes through the wall rather than through the roof  Hinge made from a commercial fridge trailer door hinge and sections of angle. the catch is from an old garden gate  The pipe going into the side is baffled and goes across the width of the burner,under the grate, with holes in to allow the forced air up into the fire  Last years addaptation involved adding an old oil barrel to the top to collect the hot air around the chimney, then up a piece of ducting  Then via an old computer fan, mounted in two air vent sleeves, powered by an old battery charger  And down the garage to the outlet at the other end  Once the burner is on full chat, a pallet will last just over an hour, and with some steam coal on there as well, the burner will glow, and is hot enough for me to use as a forge and smelt aluminium cans down into ingots to weigh in |
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