stefan
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If it isn't broken fix it till it is
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Oct 15, 2009 20:08:47 GMT
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Not a proper chimney a twin wall chimney system is what is pictured, well the wide bit at the top is. the twin wall must go through the wall at 45 degree, it will have to be 155mm internal as well to meet regs.
using an old chimney and pressure testing it or relining it will be cheeper. The twin wall insulated like the top part on the above pic is about £300 per meter retail. a good twin wall flex is about £40 retail to put down an existing chimney, you need adaptors and things with eather which will add about £200 with eather system to do it right.
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POWER IS EVERYTHING WITHOUT CONTROL
1985 Honda jazz
1997 Saab 93 convertible
2010 transit 280
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Oct 30, 2009 16:02:59 GMT
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I don't want it going off like a mortar when I cut into it !!! :-o No sense of adventure. |
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I don't want it going off like a mortar when I cut into it !!! :-o No sense of adventure. ;D ;D ;D ;D |
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You're an inspiring lot and i have passed your ideas/knowledge (or part thereof) along. I really want to get stuck into making a woodburner myself but i got chatting my uncle about it last week and he got busy........ He's now made himself a waste oil burner (bring on the environment! Saving the plants by not throwing it in the ground but killing the clouds in the process!!!!  don't nobody tell Al Gore! ). Its a gas bottle turned upside down with the original handles split and used as legs.  He's then cut a hole in the bottom (now the top) for a chimney to go into and also an access panel in the side (this will be covered over).  Now the interesting bit is a syphon fed copper pipe which will be dripping waste oil onto a piece of broken driveshaft from a Herald which is welded at an angle into the centre of the inside of the gas cylinder. It leads down to a small oil pan which is heated and set on fire. It gives a lovely 2 foot flame at the minute (needs some adjustments!) but gives off some great heat.   The pipe at the bottom of the first picture is just an air inlet pipe he was toying with. It has to be cut to a more reasonable length..... He also has ideas for turning this into some type of fire-machineTM.    Its a stainless steel gulley trap that comes exactly in that shape. Its fairly solid and i think it'd make a great travel BBQ albeit quite small. ;D |
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My uncle got his waste oil burner all set up and its there heating the garage the best you ever did see. Here it is doing its thing:    Note the oil feed pipe is wrapped around the top which heats the oil before it drips inside:  The bolt in the picture above is from where he was experimenting with dropping water in there too - caused massive flames! |
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Nov 18, 2009 21:00:54 GMT
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this seems to be a "hot" topic at the moment. we are just finishing our lil log burner at the barn. made out of gas bottle and old car bark bollard, that are stainless and quite thick walled so heat up a treat. will be doing some more mods to it, have even thought of doing a water boiler and radiator setup. just a simple pic of the flue, will post more up when i can.  |
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Nov 20, 2009 20:33:56 GMT
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here's the little wood burner i made couple of years ago.. always thought about seeing if i could mod it to burn waste oil?? looking at the simplicity of the one above,might give it ago!  |
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That's a lovely little burner petetong, it looks very professional!! What are the hinges off?
My uncle's oil burner is dead simple, its literally just a little pan in the base and he's using a piece of driveshaft cos its not gonna melt real soon! The trick is setting the oild feed right but its really trial and error to get the flow set.
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Nov 22, 2009 12:08:13 GMT
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That's a lovely little burner petetong, it looks very professional!! What are the hinges off? My uncle's oil burner is dead simple, its literally just a little pan in the base and he's using a piece of driveshaft cos its not gonna melt real soon! The trick is setting the oild feed right but its really trial and error to get the flow set. i made the hinges!! made every thing on it.. when i worked as a welder fabricator, lunch times(that should read when ever the boss wasn't looking!) would always knock up little projects! i made 2, the other one i sold at a car boot sale for £45.. was going to make a load more but.... like you do.. never found the time to do it!!  so does the oil run down the inside off the old drive shaft? meaning is it a tube type shaft? |
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Nov 22, 2009 13:18:52 GMT
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Well the hinges look proper jobs man, like the kind you see on those old 50's american fridges. And £45 at a sale, bonus!! My uncle has had a few offers to make them for local guys who breed/train racing dogs! so does the oil run down the inside off the old drive shaft? meaning is it a tube type shaft? The oil runs down the outside -its a solid drive shaft- theres a nick towards the end of the shaft that it runs into - i'll get a picture for you, i only had my phone with me but i'll bring up the camera next time. |
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Nov 22, 2009 17:04:40 GMT
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thanks that would be ideal
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Forgot to say; so far he has put the princely sum of £3.50 into the entire project!
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marksparks999
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I aim to live forever, or die trying!
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Nov 27, 2009 16:39:22 GMT
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Retroless at the moment... but on the hunt for something old!
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Nov 29, 2009 18:27:20 GMT
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This is what my uncle has been making for me! Hope the pics tell the story so far:    The doors are made of the cut out piece of tank put back in with a flange around them - the flanges have to be trimmed back and tidied up a bit but to be honest its so cool in the flesh! Still to do are some handles and to put the grate in (which can be seen in the bottom left of the second picture). Also have to make an air inlet in the base too. Cant wait to get it done and put in the garage, he had his running this afternoon with a few small sticks rather than the oil and it was super hot for ages. |
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due to my workshop being a bit big for the size of my burner i thought up this idea to maximise efficiency and use of the heat. i will probably add a expansion tank higher up and a pump as i doubt that heat will be enough to crate good water flow. the main idea is to welt another bottle on the top as a boiler then run water to the other side of the workshop to a car rad with a fan on it.   |
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bryn
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Haha, that's hilarious... ;D They are brutally effective eh?  I welded a load of VW barrels to the top of one years ago and sleeved it, using an old 12v fan wired up to a battery you could blow hot air through a system of pipes crudely shoved into the top of the sleeve. I've been meaning to make another all summer, got the cylinders all emptied and full of water already for me to get with the cutting, feeling inspired now I've seen this. Thanks  |
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Volvo, Buggy, Discovery and an old tractor.
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Got the stove finished off today:  We lit it up with some sticks, then loaded it with about 6 inches of sawdust. Sawdust was a bit damp so we got a bit of smoke (as seen below) but after a few minutes when it started to actually burn the smoke was gone and the flames were leaping right up to the top of the chimney  Then i got carried away and sprayed it black with a little stencil action!  Here you can see the ash pan and the grate in place (the iron bar is welded in place to prevent blocks falling out against the door):  |
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Dec 17, 2009 10:19:45 GMT
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Looks quality to me! Personally like a glass door but imagine fairly tricky on a curved gas bottle.
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Dec 17, 2009 22:52:15 GMT
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Yeah, i'd prefer a glass door but as you say its the curve that's the difficult bit. Guy on youtube did it by using a Pirex dish clamped in a steel frame
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don't nobody tell Al Gore! ). Its a gas bottle turned upside down with the original handles split and used as legs. 
