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Apr 16, 2009 17:30:21 GMT
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Here's the deal. I've got the chance of two classic Yamaha musclebikes in the form of XS1100's. They're both pretty poorly but two will make a good un with some work  . Even better they're free ;D. All this thread needs now is the "BUT" so here it comes. They're free but they're in Holland  Anyone suggest a cheapish way of getting them back? First thought is hire a van and go and get em but when I do the sums for van hire etc I may as well stop at home and buy a good un on ebay. Anyone going there with some space in the van on the way back? There would obviously be some proper beer money involved. Anybody want something taken and would chip in if I did the trip (which I do fancy just for the hell of it). Anyone think I should forget it and take up fishing? |
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Apr 16, 2009 17:43:50 GMT
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Where abouts in Holland, and where abouts are you? What sort of timescale is involved? ie - does the chap want rid asap or is he willing to sit on them for a while till they can be collected?
Renting a van to take to europe can be pricey - can you borrow one? what about a trailer? possibly a stupid question, but with some manhandling some dismantling and some plywood, would they fit into an estate car?
I'm not too sure of ferries to Holland, but you can get to zeebrugge from Rosyth, Hull and folkestone (possibly others too) with a return ticket for well under £200 with a little hunting and depending on when you travel. I doubt anywhere in Holland is more than 5 hours drive from zeebrugge. Rotterdam is the main port in Holland I believe - should be able to get a sailing from Hull, but I have no idea of pricing.
Granted, it might involve spending some cash, but life is a little dull if you don't accept the odd silly adventure/challenge. Think of it as a holiday - maybe get a mate or 3 to go along and turn it into long weekender...
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purplevanman
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Apr 16, 2009 17:48:29 GMT
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i think you are asking far too much and you should forget all about, by the way, just out of interest of course, whats the address wish i could help |
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Apr 16, 2009 17:57:04 GMT
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if ya quick sign up on the ford sierra owners club forum. Load of them are going to Holland v-soon, U never know what u might be able to swing!
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Apr 16, 2009 17:57:05 GMT
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A few years back my dad and I went to Holland to look at a car for sale. The car turned out to be a POS and we drove back empty handed.
We done the whole trip in a day, exactly 24 hrs almost to the minute!
We went over Dover-Calais. The ferry to Holland is slow and expensive. You can clock up the miles much more faster by road than ferry.
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Apr 16, 2009 18:12:13 GMT
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take the back and passenger seat out of you car and take some spanners ...prob squeeze most of in...maybe a roof rack too lol
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Apr 16, 2009 18:30:16 GMT
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wonder if an XS1100 would fit in a sierra estate?  |
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Apr 16, 2009 20:03:40 GMT
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Can the seller deliver to the dock?
I bought a van from holland and the seller dropped it off at the ferry port. I booked the van on as cargo and collected it in Rosyth the following day.
Cost me about £120 as freight.
Dave.
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Apr 16, 2009 20:09:30 GMT
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Post another thread up, titled "Calling Holland, Help needed please"
Then see what the guys like the Doctor have to say, some may be over for Classic Ford, and depending on loads of stuff , they may be able to tow a trailer here... etc.
I am sure that for the cost of a tank of fuel, which is still less than going there, some may be prepared to help.
Or else, do like Dave21478 said.... make an adventure and live life.
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Apr 16, 2009 20:41:59 GMT
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Look at DFDS Tor Line. If you can get them dropped off at the port the dock workers will load them. Then you can collect them at Immingham.
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Apr 16, 2009 21:03:29 GMT
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The tunnel's about £45 each way, for a car anyway. Not so sure about a van. I do know Rotterdam is about 3 hours drive from the tunnel. Avoid Antwerp like the plague! You'll get stuck on the ring road. Take a longer route that avoids it. I would have thought that was the cheapest way to drive over, even in a van. As said, ferries are very expensive and slow. Unless you're hundreds of miles from the tunnel of course |
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Apr 16, 2009 21:08:11 GMT
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If you are talking about a van (loaded) the tunnel is twice the price of the ferry. You can get very cheap day returns tourist
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Apr 16, 2009 21:18:03 GMT
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Be carefull with a van in the tunnel - they have recently started enforcing some rule they used to not bother with. Someone I know was caught out a few weeks back - something to do with volumetric load capacity being over a certain level, changing the van status from a personal vehicle to a Freight carrier - at a much higher tariff. Basically a way to rook more money from punters who don't read the terms and conditions. The gist was, he had to pay SIGNIFICANTLY more money in his partly loaded transit connect that someone in something like a megane scenic that could be packed to the roof, yet still classed as "private use"
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Apr 16, 2009 23:53:26 GMT
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Sling the bikes in a Megane Scenic! I knew there'd be a good use for it one day  Seriously though, Might it be worth buying an old Espace or something for the trip? Might work out as cheap as van hire and you can sell it on after. Should avoid the above tunnel ninsense and would make a good road trip too. |
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Happiness ain't at the end of the road. Happiness is the road.
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Thanks for the encouragement guys. One of the bikes has a monstrous Martini fairing and getting them both in a Transit will be difficult enough so an estate car would not really manage. The timescale, if anyone thinks they might be able to help, is anytime really as I have had the offer on the table for a couple of years but have now decided to try and do something about it. The bikes are in Rotterdam hence the reason why I thought a post like this might throw up an opportunity but as one of them has no front wheel I'd struggle to get them to the docks
I'll try the ideas listed above, like I say, I would have no hesitation in bunging someone some serious beer money if they were doing the trip as the ferry would be £200, the van hire was qouted at £370.00 then the diesel you would be looking at around £6-700 and as the bikes need rebuilt it's technichally not worth the cash. If I could get them across the watery bit I'd be laughing.
Having said that it would make a great trip out and I'd be left with an amazing holiday souvenir!
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Last Edit: Apr 17, 2009 6:27:05 GMT by yukonphil
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Phil as you live in Cumbria your free bikes could turn out very expensive by the time you get them home, even if the RR Pony express kicks in. Depending on where they are in Holland i can´t see anyone driving up to Carlisle with them so they´ll have to be relayed around a bit and that´s not everyone´s cup of tea. You can get across via the Tunnel in a car based people carrier for 50 Quid return if you´re prepared to travel late at night. Double that if you take a trailer or use a van. If you go Hull/ Rotterdam expect to pay about 300 Quid depending on sailing times. Antwerp is no worse than any other major city trafficwise, i would try to avoid using the ringroad motorway at knocking off time though! I wouldn´t expect the dutch guy giving away these bikes to be too interested in delivering them to a port but he might hold on to them for a while (for some beermoney) to give anyone travelling time to give you a hand maybe? Good luck but you´re probably better off buying local, it´ll be cheaper in the long run. I might be back over in the UK with a trailer in the next couple of weeks but don´t hold your breath on that one! |
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Thanks for that. I should state that I don't and never have expected to get them to my door with no effort. I am only looking to get them across the channel then get a van for the day to pick them up wherever they are in the country. There is a chance I could borrow a van from work but obviously not to take abroad but I would be happy to rent one for the day if required. If I could get rid of either the van hire cost to go to Holland or the cost of the ferry crossing it all looks more worthwhile
I do appreciate that the bikes market value may not justify it but you know how it is when you get a stupid idea in your head..............
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Oh, I should mention, I work with the guy who owns them. He's been here ten years but forgot to bring them with him.
Terrible memory some folk eh?
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Good to see the other "Rescue " Thread Phil.
I would try see if the workvan could be insured for a 24/48/72 hour or week against your name for use to Europe, I have done that with company cars, and the last time I went to Belgium it cost me £30 to extend the cover.
Try it, you never know.
The extra miles would amount to almost nothing if you use a ferry to get into and out of Rotterdam.
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Thanks Grizz but the works van is deffo not leaving UK soil according to the boss!!! I did look into one day insurance and it would be resonable enough but you got to do what the boss says.
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. Even better they're free ;D. All this thread needs now is the "BUT" so here it comes.
