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Sept 7, 2005 10:30:49 GMT
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Check this out, in my opinion its great news, might affect my moving back to uni though: news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/4221878.stmThey said on the radio this morning that the treasury have said that they have already responded to high oil prices by not introducing further fuel duty over the last two years, as originally was planned. If you ask me that’s not a particularly good answer to give the people over this!
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Sept 7, 2005 10:34:12 GMT
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Aaaah, what a nice man Gordon Brown is, not increasing the 80% plus tax his band of thieves put on fuel. Fuel prices are higher now than when the last set of fuel protests occurred - I'm glad people are mobilising against this once more. It's a pain in the rear but things need to be done!
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Sept 7, 2005 10:37:30 GMT
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I find it amazing that fuel prices goes up as demand increases - with anything else, prices go down. We get the cheapest fuel in Europe, yet we pay the highest prices. It ain't right!
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Sept 7, 2005 10:51:47 GMT
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I agree something needs to be done but do not agree with the blockades, last time we had them I couldn`t get petrol to get to Goodwood so lost the £70 I`d spent on a ticket Maybe people shouldn`t have voted for this car hating government ?!
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Sept 7, 2005 11:08:56 GMT
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Well I certainly didnt!
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GJM
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Alloy engines; like communism- great in theory.
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Sept 7, 2005 11:10:56 GMT
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Finally someones doing something about it, good on em'.
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BigWig
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Sept 7, 2005 11:12:20 GMT
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The government encourage us to go by public transport which is even more unreliable, if Tony and his bum boys jumped on a bus then fair enough, but I can't see them giving up their guzzling Jags can you? They try and bring in these rules e.g. killing 4x4's off for using loads of petrol/derv etc when the actual government motors probably use more fuel. Jag does about 14mpg, London traffic, more like 9mpg...
T0ssers, I hate them!
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Sept 7, 2005 11:13:27 GMT
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Unfortunately, a recent change in law means that the army can (and will) be mobilised to bring down any fuel protests.
It's at times like this when I'm glad I spoiled my ballot.
*n
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Top grammar tips! Bought = purchased. Brought = relocated Lose = misplace/opposite of win. Loose = your mum
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Sept 7, 2005 11:18:21 GMT
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I travel to work and back with the wife as we work near one another - it costs us approx £5 a day in petrol or £15 if we use the bus ..... hmm, tough choice
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Sept 7, 2005 11:29:51 GMT
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It costs me £40/month to get the bus/train to work.
If I drove, it would cost me at least four times that amount.
*n
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Top grammar tips! Bought = purchased. Brought = relocated Lose = misplace/opposite of win. Loose = your mum
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Sept 7, 2005 11:33:48 GMT
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Depends where you live / work really - public transport round here (Bristol) is dismal BTW, the wife went to London on the train the other day - £117 and you don`t even get a guaranteed seat for that ...
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antdat
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Sept 7, 2005 12:11:49 GMT
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i can't get public transport to my place of work, well i can but it's 2 buses and a train oh and i would be late for work or mega early
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Sept 7, 2005 12:39:47 GMT
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Almost makes me not want to return to the UK. After living and travelling in other countries, the blatant rip-off of British fuel and public transport just seems so sick it's not even funny. My bus to work - 5 miles, give or take - costs me 60p a day, return fare. A train - clean, air-conditioned and on time - costs less than a quid for a 2 hour journey all the way across Seoul. How those thieving b'stards in the Houses of Parliament can even muster the cheek to try and excuse the state of things in the UK is beyond belief. Oh, and there's no need to raise income tax to pay for this, either. I pay 5% (yes, 5%, it's not a typo) on my wages, where I used to pay 40% in London. Now try to justify the cost of petrol.
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Driving people mad since 1978
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Sept 7, 2005 12:46:34 GMT
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While I support any planned fuel protests I doubt they will have the effect of lowering prices. As I see it, the root of the problem is we have an increasingly unworkable tax system which continues to devour more and more money - this has to be raised somehow. In my view this is not really a problem caused soley by the present government but by sucessive governements over the years. i could go on but would end up going waaaaay off topic
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mercmad
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Flush Hard,it's a long way to McDonalds.
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Sept 7, 2005 13:13:57 GMT
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Unfortunately, a recent change in law means that the army can (and will) be mobilised to bring down any fuel protests. It's at times like this when I'm glad I spoiled my ballot. *n Never disenfranchise yourself when the likes of Blair ,Bush and howard are abroad on the political scene. Old bush is a oil man to the core,we have seen the invasion of Iraq,the smashing of the greenie enviro movement,the acceptance of nuclear power and weapons and now the international robbing of citizens to build up the coffers of Standard oil etc etc etc .There is no need for these high prices as the price per barrel has NOT been sent down to the producers.In the last few hours Japan has said it will place it's reserve oil on the world market to take advantage of the high profits....Bluddy marvelous....
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Many years ago I changed my driving style to cope with rising fuel prices; I have now reached the stage where I am contemplating keeping my eyes shut in order to lower wind resistance.
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MWF
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Sept 7, 2005 13:30:29 GMT
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I find it amazing that fuel prices goes up as demand increases - with anything else, prices go down. We get the cheapest fuel in Europe, yet we pay the highest prices. It ain't right! Oil works on supply and demand, because supply is gradually always going down and demand is always going up the price will always increase. It doesn't help that we are an island and don't have supplies of oil suitable to turn into petroleum like in the states.
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Nathan
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Sept 7, 2005 14:09:52 GMT
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I thought north sea oil was too good quality to produce to petrol,
also Places like fawkland islands are rich in oil (hence why wea int given that back) so why not just dig a hole and pump the fooker. I guess when everyone else has ran out we can sell it back.
Surley this planet is full of the stuff its about time either we pumped more or did change to alternative fuels
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Sept 7, 2005 15:36:51 GMT
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north sea oil and gas is running out and is increasinly hard to get from the reserves... due to increase depths etc etc..
falklands has no oil, but due to is location gives the UK 'rights' over parts of antarctica where there is LOTS of oil....
Si
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MWF
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Sept 7, 2005 16:22:16 GMT
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Surley this planet is full of the stuff its about time either we pumped more or did change to alternative fuels It is yes, the problem is getting to it. Finding, drilling and pumping oil is becoming harder and more costly for the oil companies. Gone are the days of looking for lumps in Texas, errecting a derik, drilling straight down and plumbing in a nodding donkey. Today oil platforms need to be in the sea and mobile, surviving worse conditions and drilling in a very complex fashion.
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Sept 7, 2005 16:41:00 GMT
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if you work is less than 10 miles away - buy a scooter
i live 3 miles from work and 4 gallons lasts a month if i only go back and forward to work - and thats a 150 mph bike - scooter will do 80mpg and holds about 2.5 gallons
beats waiting
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2001 HONDA CT110 (NOT RCV)
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