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Feb 21, 2009 20:24:20 GMT
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hey all, this is my first post so ill try to do it right. here we have my new honda vision 50cc moped. it was a flea-bay bargin of 160 quid and only an hour up the road I couldnt resist. its been in a shed for 8 years and the battery was missing but ive got a new one and all the lights work and it even turns over. it just wont start. anyone got any ideas? anywat enough chatting - pics  |
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Last Edit: Jun 6, 2009 17:52:19 GMT by iang
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MrT
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Feb 21, 2009 21:25:07 GMT
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If it's been sat for that long, the first thing you've gotta do is clean all the stale fuel out - it'll be like varnish in the carb.
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Feb 21, 2009 21:44:26 GMT
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Lounge is a great place, better than the kitchen.
More space.
Welcome here.
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cheers for the comments guys,
ive managed to get all of the pertol out of the tank.
I'm just strugling to find how the carb comes off so i can
clean it down.
updates soon
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bootsy75hst
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"scrap the caddy clyde"
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Feb 22, 2009 10:20:36 GMT
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if i'd have taken a scooter to bits in the front room my lass would do her nut in
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"when the going turns weird, the weird turn pro" hst
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Feb 22, 2009 16:54:55 GMT
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If Id done a scooter in the lounge SWMBO would do MY nuts in!!! ;D ;D  |
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If I had two brains I,d still be a halfwit
1969 Morris Minor Traveller
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Feb 22, 2009 17:15:37 GMT
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also check the spark plug is not covered in carbon gunk.
Take out the spark plug and check if it's wet (fuel is getting in good) or dry (no fuel bad).
Once you have fuel in the system, make sure you have spark, lie the connect spark plug again the engine head spin/kick the engine over, you should be awarded with a healthy spark.
Don't know how much mechanical skill you have, but you do realize this thing has to have two stoke oil in it before you start it up?
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Feb 22, 2009 17:26:06 GMT
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i have 2 stroke oil in it. i have a spark but it aint a bright one.
guessing i need a new spark plug.
i stripped the carb down today (in the sink), cleaned it and put it
back together, bolted it to the ped dragged it out side and if fired up! wasnt sounding too good but I'm guessing thats the plug at fault.
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Feb 22, 2009 20:11:50 GMT
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Good! glad it fired up for you.
how bad sounding? check exhaust for the brown cancer, lots of mopeds die there.
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Feb 22, 2009 20:25:10 GMT
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mmmm 2 stroke pipe full of gunge.... spent months trying to get an express to run right because of that curse...
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dungbug
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Feb 22, 2009 20:31:20 GMT
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Nice little Honda, I had an '87 NE 50 (practically the same machine). Great little thing, albeit very slow! Mine was a bit noisey as the exhaust was loose so check that for that, if it has been sitting for a while the exhaust box is probably holed., the box on my daily ped seems to corrode overnight! Also check that the oil is getting through the mix with the fuel, I had a ped a while back and the mechanism which allowed the oil through was seized so that's something worth checking for whilst you've got it in bits. Here's a few pic's of my old one.    Parts are easy to get on fleabay for these & if looked after I've found that they outlive the modern cr*p that's available. Nice find fella, hope you get her up & running. |
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Feb 22, 2009 20:33:06 GMT
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Yep, if you've got a lot of carbon & unburnt fuel deposits in the exhaust then it'll really hurt it.
Take off the exhaust pipe and look into the cylinder, you may well find that black/brown goop is resticting the outlet. Clean it out carefully with a butter knife or pallet knife.
Then, pop the whole exhaust pipe onto a BBQ for a couple of hours, really cook the sucker, then after its cooled, bash the now powdered deposits out using a rubber mallet.
Clean that begger right out and it should be able to breathe better
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Your car is not 'epic', this thread is not 'epic'....the OCEAN is epic, the UNIVERSE is epic.... please stop misusing this word!! It would appear Hotrods are the new VWs - aint fashion funny! '69 BUICK LESABRE 350 |
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1990 Honda Vision 50retrowagen1234
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has this one got the vaccum fuel tap? as in it only opens when you kick the engine over? they sometimes get jammed,.... once the tank is cleaned out. chuck some fuel in and take the fuel line off from the tank. suck the vaccum pipe (not fuel pipe) and see if any fuel comes out of the fuel line. (it should) if so then connect it up to the carb. and take the drain plug from the carb base out. suck vaccum again and wait till it pours out of carb (that way you know the carb is allowing fuel in) refit the plug in the bowl. check for a nice fat blue spark (earth the plug against the exhaust manifold or head (if accesible) clip on the ht cap and kick it over with the ignition on. it should be blue. if its orange first stop is change the plug. then regap it. and try again. if its blue. and you have fuel in the carb. it should go if still no luck. remove the carb and clean all the jets (if any  ) (ive had some wierd carbs on my old bikes) |
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dungbug
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How are you getting on with this Iang?
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Past: 13 VW Beetles from 1967 - 1974
Bay Window Campers (1973 & 1974)
Mini's (1992 Cooper lookalike & 1984 '25 Anniversary)
MK2 Polo Coupe S (1984 & 1986)
MK2 Polo Breadvan (1981 & 1984)
MK4 Escort (1989)
MK2 Granada Based Hearse (seriously)
Fiat Uno 60S (1986) Punto 60S (1998) Cinq (1997)
1998 Yamaha YZF600R Thundercat
2003 Ford KA
Current: 2004 Ford Focus (barely alive)
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Feb 25, 2009 11:52:20 GMT
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I'm getting on ok cheers, some parts i ordered arrived so its all go go, I'm trying to get it road ready before the end of the month,and then its going matt black, pic update coming soon
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dungbug
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Feb 25, 2009 13:18:00 GMT
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Sweet, seems to be moving along nicely.......Looking forward to the photo's. ;D
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Past: 13 VW Beetles from 1967 - 1974
Bay Window Campers (1973 & 1974)
Mini's (1992 Cooper lookalike & 1984 '25 Anniversary)
MK2 Polo Coupe S (1984 & 1986)
MK2 Polo Breadvan (1981 & 1984)
MK4 Escort (1989)
MK2 Granada Based Hearse (seriously)
Fiat Uno 60S (1986) Punto 60S (1998) Cinq (1997)
1998 Yamaha YZF600R Thundercat
2003 Ford KA
Current: 2004 Ford Focus (barely alive)
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Feb 25, 2009 16:35:40 GMT
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Get porting, polishing, fitting an expansion chamber and re-jetting the carb.
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does anyonw know where the vin number is on this moped?
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possibly under the footboard or stamped on the headstock
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Feb 28, 2009 14:57:46 GMT
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IT RUNS!!! but only for a few seconds, i start it up but it runs for about 30 seconds then dies, i then have to drain the carb to be able to start it again, does anyone know why it does this? heres a pic of the screws on the carb how do i adjust it to get it running consistantly?  the bottom screw is the drain, the top one i believe is the adjustment for the idle, i have no idea what the middle one is, can any one help me? |
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) (ive had some wierd carbs on my old bikes)