kevfromwales
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the conrod's REALLY out the block now!
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Jan 22, 2009 22:14:46 GMT
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what's the crack then?? the hunter's got fairly grotty front wings, and tbh it doesn't bother me overly, but they do make the rest of the car look tatty (er) - like being able to see the slot mags through the holes in the wheelarch ;D seff put me onto a steel wing on ebay that was local, but bidding got a bit out of hand, and I do already have a pair of fibreglass front wings in my possesion - but what's going to be best for fixing them on? Ideally I'd like to make them bolt on, so I could get them off for regular A post rust treatment, and also incase I managed to get some tin ones eventually has anybody on here gone down the route of fitting 'glass front wings? (I know mrabody has in his thread, but actual fitment details are a bit sketchy!) don't really fancy pop rivets all down my inner wings, and I doubt pritt stick is going to be up to the task - so any tips / ideas are much appreciated - kev ps - also, is it going to be a problem with mot's / the car's structure with having fibreglass wings on a monocoque car? and have some nice barris kustom work (including the wings!) to make up for the above horrors
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Almost on the road: b11 sunny breadvan, e36 tds, 325i skidcar,
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''unfortanatly I'm quite old and scruffy and in need of some loving. my drive shaft needs a new boot....''
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Seth
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MorrisOxford TriumphMirald HillmanMinx BorgwardIsabellaCombi
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Jan 22, 2009 22:24:51 GMT
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£56 for that Ebay wing wasn't bad. I've seen them go for well over a hundred!
Velcro?
Have you managed to get the wheels on OK now?
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Follow your dreams or you might as well be a vegetable.
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kevfromwales
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the conrod's REALLY out the block now!
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Jan 22, 2009 22:35:54 GMT
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I know it wasn't too bad - and had I been in I'd have been bidding merrily away at it - but I was chatting sh*t and dropping off some prefect bonnet hinges for a mate, and overstayed well past the auction's finish! (I was winning it when I went out too!)
yep, front wheel are on fine with wee thin wheel spacers instead of trimming the studs, backs are still to do, as I've been hauling heavy tat in the old bus, and I don't want to scrub the rubber on the slots think some arch trimming may be in order at the back
velcro?? - hmm - wonder if double sided sticky tape would do the job?!?
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Almost on the road: b11 sunny breadvan, e36 tds, 325i skidcar,
nearly there: ford f250 tathauler, suzuki alto, u11 bluey
not for a while: ford pop, 32 rails,
not in this lifetime: ruby, '29 hillman
''unfortanatly I'm quite old and scruffy and in need of some loving. my drive shaft needs a new boot....''
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ezzysi
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Jan 22, 2009 22:43:22 GMT
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£56 per wing sounds bargainous when you've got a mk1 escort in need of 2 new mex wings!! I'll be getting a pair from smith and deakin for mine purely because I don't want to remortgage for steel ones Planning on bolting them on with the original ford type self tapping 10mm bolts to make them removable, And no your mot will be fine as long as there fixed properly.
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1991 Mk2 Golf Gti 8v 2005 Passat tdi (daily) 1971 Mk1 Escort 2004 Touran (her's)
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Jan 22, 2009 22:45:09 GMT
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yeah, just tidy up the wing rails and use big self tappers and large washers.
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Volvo back as my main squeeze, more boost and some interior goodies on the way.
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kevfromwales
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the conrod's REALLY out the block now!
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Jan 22, 2009 23:01:26 GMT
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cheers chaps!
unless of course when I get the outers wings off there's no A post eh???
- kev
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Almost on the road: b11 sunny breadvan, e36 tds, 325i skidcar,
nearly there: ford f250 tathauler, suzuki alto, u11 bluey
not for a while: ford pop, 32 rails,
not in this lifetime: ruby, '29 hillman
''unfortanatly I'm quite old and scruffy and in need of some loving. my drive shaft needs a new boot....''
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Jan 22, 2009 23:14:42 GMT
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As far as I know, rivets are the way to go. Just do them discreetly and neatly, then bring them in with the paint. A bit of gum or the like on the joins is a good idea as well to stop any vibration rattles.
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Jan 22, 2009 23:44:12 GMT
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i've fished out a fibreglass spoiler today and that's got rivnuts fitted, nice job too.
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There ya go, the fiberglass wings fixed onto my ex's mk1 escort with self tappers and then painted over, they look fine, the wings have been on there a couple of years, its an everyday car and theres no cracking or flexing in them so far, makes em easy to remove if you have to as well, not much point bonding or rivetting them on, they wont add any strength anyway.
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Volvo back as my main squeeze, more boost and some interior goodies on the way.
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What are the disadvantages of fibreglass wings?
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What are the disadvantages of fibreglass wings? They go "thud" instead of "bonk" when you tap em and purists will look down on you, BUT if you own a mk1 escort you'll know you spent 100 quid on two instead of 400 quid each for second had metal RS ones. people will tell you they don't fit as well, but some of the metal panels i've tried to fit have been terrible and not as easy to alter as fiberglass. Using Esme (its the cars name, i didnt choose it) as an example again tell me whats wrong with fiberglass wings?
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Volvo back as my main squeeze, more boost and some interior goodies on the way.
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I don't see any thing wrong with fibreglass panels,indeed some cars have had so many panels relaced by it that they become completely made of the stuff apparently!! ;D ;D
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If I had two brains I,d still be a halfwit 1969 Morris Minor Traveller
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fiberglass wont rust . i think thats plenty enough reason to use it
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Aaron
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I've had fibreglass front wings on the Toyota for over 15 years. The original wings were bolt-on, so there was no problem replacing them, I just used stainless bolts and larger washers. The MOT don't mind because the original wings bolted on too rather than being welded. If your steel wings are welded, would it not be possible to weld stainless nuts to the underside of the inner wings, then bolt on the fibreglass? Aaron.
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1975 Toyota 1000 with 4A-GE (tweaked a bit)
1992 Nissan GTi-R (now sold after 17 years)
2001 Subaru Impreza WRX (remapped)
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Jan 23, 2009 10:13:31 GMT
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My Ital estate has fibreglass wings, they're not perfick but then again I use it as a hack and not a show car. One thing to bear in mind is the original fitment - some cars have the wings as a structural part of the front end, like my Ital, so I had to reinforce the tops of the inner wings with B&Q 19mm angle seam welded on, which also made up for the lack of gutter channel on the wings. It's then just a case of trial and error to get them to fit properly, the final fit for mine was done with four self-tappers, two brass bolts and a tube of Sikaflex panel bonding glue and they ain't shifted since. Those of you with bolt-ons are laughing, its just a case of aligning them properly. retrorides.proboards86.com/index.cgi?board=readersrides&action=display&thread=36378&page=1
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Rover Metro - The TARDIS - brake problems.....Stored Rover 75 - Barge MGZTT Cdti 160+ - Winter Hack and Audi botherer... MGF - The Golden Shot...Stored Project Minion........ Can you see the theme?
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burns
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Jan 23, 2009 10:16:32 GMT
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If your steel wings are welded, would it not be possible to weld stainless nuts to the underside of the inner wings, then bolt on the fibreglass? Aaron. I thought there were MOT issues with replacing welded on wings with bolt ons. How they're supposed to know how they used to be attached on obscure cars is anyones guess.
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kevfromwales
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the conrod's REALLY out the block now!
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Jan 23, 2009 10:42:18 GMT
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I like the idea of welding captive nuts in place, then bolting them on, but as popup mentions it's probably riv nuts or big self tappers FTW!
cheers for the input all
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Almost on the road: b11 sunny breadvan, e36 tds, 325i skidcar,
nearly there: ford f250 tathauler, suzuki alto, u11 bluey
not for a while: ford pop, 32 rails,
not in this lifetime: ruby, '29 hillman
''unfortanatly I'm quite old and scruffy and in need of some loving. my drive shaft needs a new boot....''
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MrT
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Just who did Mr Hitler REALLY think he was kidding?
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Jan 23, 2009 10:58:54 GMT
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I'm using Smith & deakin GRP wings on my pickup.
I bought them new direct from them, and have had to 'dismantle' them to get them on - the fit was miles out!
However, with a bit of grafting and ingenuity, it's a better fit than the factory steel wings!
Mine just bolt on at all the original bolting points (factory captive nuts).
There's pics in the thread - click the link in my sig.
Dale
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Jan 23, 2009 11:31:56 GMT
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If your steel wings are welded, would it not be possible to weld stainless nuts to the underside of the inner wings, then bolt on the fibreglass? Aaron. I thought there were MOT issues with replacing welded on wings with bolt ons. How they're supposed to know how they used to be attached on obscure cars is anyones guess. Some testers have been known to get funny about cars with struts supposedly having 12" of good metal all the way around the suspension mount at the top, which possibly you wouldn't have if you fitted fiberglass wings depending on the car, my theory has always been that if the car fails its not hard to unbolt the fiberglass wing and weld a bit of steel under it to bring it back to spec. Mk1 escort wings are supposed to be welded on and there thousands running fiberglass wings cos of the price of steel ones and still passing MOT's.
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Volvo back as my main squeeze, more boost and some interior goodies on the way.
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