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Oct 29, 2008 15:33:31 GMT
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Not everyone is cut from the same cloth I think is the short answer, since most of us nutjobs are on here all the time, or in the garage/on the floor covered in rust and grease, its fair to say, cars are a big deal in our lives, and for many of us (dare say some with a current car project/banger CV) can see these projects through. For you Average Joe/Jo they like cars, have an interest, even care how they work but the desire isnt strong enough so they can drop it if its not for them. Now I'm glad you put in a disclaimer for people like me and thee, with a fleet of crusty rusty random cars (and bikes) I'm wondering how I ended up with a load of tat I didn't know I wanted, lifes funny like that innit. I've traced it back and I wanted most of it in a way. TBH they all get in the way, cause arguements, cause a little stress, cause hardship, most don't work/legally drive, 1/8th of the fleet works and is used legally on teh road, but hell am doing it now, not later most people think we're mad. So maybe one day i'll rid some and buy that (68/69/70/71etc) Dodge Charger, or that 82 Trans Am custom, or that classic rally car etc but for now, I don't think theres a rush, apart from em getting rarer or more expensive. Message is good, ya want it, go do it. You're in charge. As for Joe/Jo no idea, ear ache from Mrs/Mr, peer pressure, needing a cheap reliable sensible car? maybe one day they'll have summat fun on wheels they want....
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it doesn't matter if it's a Morris Marina or a Toyota Celica - it's what you do with it that counts
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qwerty
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Oct 29, 2008 17:29:55 GMT
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Interesting rant. I have always had a modernish hatch......Polo, saxo,starlet, saxo, cinq, clio etc. I bought these cars for the reason that I thought they'd be fun to own and drive whilst reserving a slight level of reliability.
I'm not that technically minded or able. I can do the odd things like brake pads, services, fitting an exhaust etc etc. However things more complicated scare me.....what if I can't get it back together, what if I break it more?! These factors have put me off owning a retro as a daily car.
WELL BALLS TO THAT! After consistently spending stupid amounts of money on these characterless euroboxes I have bought the Qwertina......and even with that I was looking for a 90's Civic when I bought it!! What i've found is an easy to drive car with fantastic parts backup and Andy (scaryoldcortina) seems like he could take it completely apart and put it back together in half a day! I'm glad I took the plunge. Although the car isn't as sporty or as new as the previous cars it puts a huge grin on my face.
Similar case is My mate Nathan. He's 18 and was gunna buy himself a Golf GTTDI. He had the money all saved up. But then after looking at Golfs he decided they were boring.......So he bought an Audi Coupe V6 and spent the rest on insurance. So now he has an interesting fun and quite quick car which he enjoys owning far more than he would have the Golf!! ANNNNNNND the car has got him into the whole "scene" especially with him helping James with his car!
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Colonelk
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Oct 29, 2008 19:14:52 GMT
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good rant. Excellent point. Looks @ bank account: £9.93 Aaaaaaaaah nuts. There was me hoping Id been paid and I could go on an ebay spending spree.
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Oct 29, 2008 20:33:18 GMT
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Fairly said. I often get with the bikes "my wife won't let me" or "always wanted one but I'm a bit mad me, I'd kill meself". Yawn.... Do what you want or soon enough you might not be able. Every car I've had, which is not many, and every bike has been daily driven. OK I can't have the car of my dreams but I'll have whatever fun I can with whatever £s I've got and I've no time for regrets or missing out. I think there's a crucial difference: the 'couldn't do it, now I can' folks are probably seeing it as a toy or indulgence. The rest of us are, I'm guessing, a bit more involved/addicted/badly sick
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'66 Amazon <-> '94 LS400 <-> '86 Suzuki 1135 EFE
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purplevanman
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Oct 29, 2008 20:41:29 GMT
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I have always had old cars, sometimes due to want sometimes due to all i could afford, always wanted a Landy and have now got one, I cant afford to drive it all the time but it is staying Its funny how so many people say sell it cos it cost too much to run, I have fetched 5 loads of firewood this year so far, approx £100 per load saved, Landy paid for this year ;D ;D so balls to them I use to do bikes, got up to a kwack 1100 chop and then kids and houses forced me into cars so I will enjoy them and have the car I want not the car people think I should have. My mrs doesnt drive which is a pita but it removes her choice of the car we own ;D New car ? not an effin chance !!! ONE LIFE LIVE IT is a great slogan
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Welder, fabricator, general resto work
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Good rant, I enjoyed that. My best mate is going to turn out to be that guy you described. Doesn't matter what I say to him he'll eventually talk his way out of it. Even after an epic event like the hotrod hayride.
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Same curse word over here in the states I here BS like that all the time , and not just about cars !!! The same twerps say dumb curse word for years on end !!! Like my friend ( who just spent $ 16,000 on yard fountain and coy pond ) , he says about once a week how one day he and his wife will have the money to holliday in Spain for a week . Yet every time they get their hands on some money they spend it on stupid curse word and we get to here the whine about " some day "
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see, now if I needed a 7seater I would have bought an old sherpa or transit mini bus and spent the extra money on other stuff. But the chances are most wives would want something different
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Same curse word over here in the states indeed, "Bob" with the Mustang was in the US of A.
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1941 Wolseley Not Rod - 1956 Humber Hawk - 1957 Daimler Conquest - 1966 Buick LeSabre - 1968 Plymouth Sport Fury - 1968 Ford Galaxie - 1969 Ford Country Squire - 1969 Mercury Marquis - 1970 Morris Minor - 1970 Buick Skylark - 1970 Ford Galaxie - 1971 Ford Galaxie - 1976 Continental Mark IV - 1976 Ford Capri - 1994 Ford Fiesta
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see, now if I needed a 7seater I would have bought an old sherpa or transit mini bus and spent the extra money on other stuff. But the chances are most wives would want something different i don't tell em what colour sheets we sleep under and they don't tell me what we drive, once we have whatever "practical" vehicles we need, then we both get to choose what we drive for fun so the practical one can be as cheap and basic as possibl;e cos it only gets used when its needed, which usually isnt as often as you think especially if you don't like it. Its not so relevant now as my current partner don't drive, but me and my ex both had mk1 escorts as toys and before the we had both had Capris, we also owned various sensible cars that did duty when we couldnt fit, kids/luggage/shopping in the old classics. were theres a will theres a way, theres never a need to spend thousand on a car, whatever everyone tries to persuade you.
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Volvo back as my main squeeze, more boost and some interior goodies on the way.
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stealthstylz
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Oct 30, 2008 10:35:09 GMT
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Good rant. I think the same applies to "too far" people. They see something they want, but its always "too far" for them to consider buying it. NOWHERE in the uk is too far. You can get from one end to the other in half a day.
Matt
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Oct 30, 2008 10:39:37 GMT
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Good rant. I think the same applies to "too far" people. They see something they want, but its always "too far" for them to consider buying it. NOWHERE in the uk is too far. You can get from one end to the other in half a day. Matt very true that, especially when you see the lengths the Americans go to buy a car (seattle to florida on one forum for an impala )
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1993 Fiat Panda Selecta 2003 Vauxhall Combo 1.7DI van 2006 Mercedes Kompressor Evolution-S AMG SportCoupé
"You think you hate it now, wait til you drive it"
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stealthstylz
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Oct 30, 2008 10:42:13 GMT
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A guy came over from Sweden to pick an engine up we were selling.
Matt
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RA40tony
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Oct 30, 2008 10:56:55 GMT
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Great rant and some funny replies too.
When I was married, we had a second hand ford galaxy tdi and a cinq sporting as sensible/kid carriers/commuters and the 79 Celica as my project/fun car.
Now I have a modern daily (Mitsi Colt) and my 75 Celica. If finances get too difficult, the celica hibernates, the insurance gets suspended and I use the colt until I can afford to use the celica again. It don't cost me anything and I can use that time to work on it.
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1979 Toyota Celica GT. Currently Gone.
1975 Toyota Celica ST. 13x7 Allycats, "the stick" applied. 100kW 4AGE... Sold
1963 Karmann Ghia - Lo & Slo, Sold.
1965 VW Fastback - cruising
1953 Oval Ragtop, work in progress...
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Oct 30, 2008 12:06:29 GMT
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You can get from one end to the other in half a day. Penzance to say Glasgow, in half a day? By road? Takes me 5 hours to Penzance from Nottingham by road. Time is a "cost" to me, as I have so little of it. It also depends on what it is. Not to mention the price of petrol to drag stuff home... Picking up parts, I'd go a fair way for. But I'd rather pay a courier. Looking at a car which is T&T, I'd go another fair distance for. Looking at a car which don't drive, well, if its not already on my property I CBA with that these days...
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1941 Wolseley Not Rod - 1956 Humber Hawk - 1957 Daimler Conquest - 1966 Buick LeSabre - 1968 Plymouth Sport Fury - 1968 Ford Galaxie - 1969 Ford Country Squire - 1969 Mercury Marquis - 1970 Morris Minor - 1970 Buick Skylark - 1970 Ford Galaxie - 1971 Ford Galaxie - 1976 Continental Mark IV - 1976 Ford Capri - 1994 Ford Fiesta
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Oct 30, 2008 12:51:30 GMT
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I travelled about 1200km to get my C110 Skyline, why? because I'd always wanted an "early" Skyline. The opportunity arose. I took it.
By contrast, travelled down the road and around the corner to get my S21 Skyline. ;D Though, I did pay for it with money I had saved to further work on the C110. You make sacrifices though. I can always earn more money, the C110 isn't going anywhere.
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Skyline: 1963 - 1973 - 1983 Sunny: 1982 450SLC: 1973 Navara: 1992 Gloria: 1992
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I agree with the one life, live it philosophy.
However, there is also the argument that, if things are a little tricky financially or whatever, that you're best playing safe and not risking it all because if tomorrow DOES come, you could be screwed.
I dunno. I just wish I had the money to do what I wanted...
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I like the thought of driving to the other end of the country for a car but it would take me a bout 15 hours to get down to the south of England, and id also be worried incase the car broke down, also don't like motorway driving.
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purplevanman
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I think the too far argument is a bit different Over 8 hrs driving to get a car you probably havent seen is risky. My last one was 300 miles and i was forced into buying it really as it cost a small fortune to get back home without it! Also driving that far either would take 2 days as you would have to sleep or two people would have to go. don't know about you but I find people who are willing to drive you for 8 hours or more so you can buy a car are thin on the ground.. As stealthstyles says, time does cost
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Welder, fabricator, general resto work
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Oh God Twigzy and I did the 600 mile in one day thing once, there---back. going up is easier than down, much rather do beauty Scotland than clogged South EngAland. We've not ruled out doing it again (even as a laugh) if we could and was worth it, we would!!
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it doesn't matter if it's a Morris Marina or a Toyota Celica - it's what you do with it that counts
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