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Apr 30, 2008 10:15:33 GMT
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Stupid. It was a wheel spin and a bit of speeding. If he's guilty then so is practically ever other driver who races away from the lights. You were there and saw the incident and are able to confirm that he was just "wheel spinning a little away from the lights" Just curious based on the strenght of your responce. Like Pillock says, its amazing these idiots don't kill and injur more people the standard of driving that is often displayed. One lad put his Orion into a shop front doing a clocked 80+ MPH on a pedestrian precinct about 2 years back. Not exactly "a bit of high jinks" really. IMO the cops need to prevent this kind of stuff. Whether this is the best way to do it or not is open to debate. The action was enforced maybe a year ago in the city and I think like 2 years ago in the county. This is the first prosecution in the county under the dispersal notice. So its hardly being a heavy handed enforcement.
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1941 Wolseley Not Rod - 1956 Humber Hawk - 1957 Daimler Conquest - 1966 Buick LeSabre - 1968 Plymouth Sport Fury - 1968 Ford Galaxie - 1969 Ford Country Squire - 1969 Mercury Marquis - 1970 Morris Minor - 1970 Buick Skylark - 1970 Ford Galaxie - 1971 Ford Galaxie - 1976 Continental Mark IV - 1976 Ford Capri - 1994 Ford Fiesta
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Apr 30, 2008 10:18:15 GMT
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TBH I think I made it worse, as I was proper p1$$ed off, when the coppper asked my name and address I refused to give it to him, and Said "Mate you can get my address and name from the car details, so that as I am not wasting the oxygen". TBH I think you did. Coppers just love being given lip... Even when thy are being asshats I find life goes much smoother if you just say "yes officer, no officer" etc.
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1941 Wolseley Not Rod - 1956 Humber Hawk - 1957 Daimler Conquest - 1966 Buick LeSabre - 1968 Plymouth Sport Fury - 1968 Ford Galaxie - 1969 Ford Country Squire - 1969 Mercury Marquis - 1970 Morris Minor - 1970 Buick Skylark - 1970 Ford Galaxie - 1971 Ford Galaxie - 1976 Continental Mark IV - 1976 Ford Capri - 1994 Ford Fiesta
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Apr 30, 2008 11:21:12 GMT
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When i'm working in the garage of an evening, I often miss key bits of info on Radio 4 as some barry ba$tard does a massive wheelspin away from the lights or comes tanking through at 78mph with his kustm koksukka korsa bouncing off the rev limiter. it happens all evening every evening. Bring back prison camps i say for these nob smokers. The number of youngsters who get given a driving licence then proceed to automatically behave like complete half wits never fails to amaze me, they seem to accept it as a right to drive like a bell end. Folk should treat the right to drive as a privilege and not take the curse word with it. If this Section 59 gives the rozzers the power to confiscate cars from these turkey enterers and flatten them then great I say.
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1974 Lancia Beta Saloon 1975 Mazda 929 Coupé 1986 Mazda 929 Wagon 1979 Mazda 929 Hardtop 1982 Fiat Argenta 2.0 iniezione elettronica 1977 Toyota Carina TA14 1989 Subaru 1800 Wagon 1982 Hyundai Pony 1200TL 2-dr 1985 Hyundai Pony 1200 GL 1986 Maserati 425 Biturbo 1992 Rover 214 SEi 5-dr 2000 Rover 45 V6 Club 1994 Peugeot 205 'Junior' Diesel 1988 Volvo 760 Turbodiesel Saloon 1992 Talbot Express Autosleeper Rambler 2003 Renault Laguna SPEARS OR REAPERS
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Apr 30, 2008 11:23:36 GMT
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Do you by any chance have a column in the Daily Mail? I reckon they aught to chuck all those bloomin scooters in the same bleedin pot. When I lived in town those twunts used to wake me up all hours of the night.
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1941 Wolseley Not Rod - 1956 Humber Hawk - 1957 Daimler Conquest - 1966 Buick LeSabre - 1968 Plymouth Sport Fury - 1968 Ford Galaxie - 1969 Ford Country Squire - 1969 Mercury Marquis - 1970 Morris Minor - 1970 Buick Skylark - 1970 Ford Galaxie - 1971 Ford Galaxie - 1976 Continental Mark IV - 1976 Ford Capri - 1994 Ford Fiesta
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Apr 30, 2008 11:32:10 GMT
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Ha ha, I cant stand the daily mail, do sound a bit like it though there. I just am amazed by the abysmal standards of driving available to see every day and evening, demonstrated by barries.
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1974 Lancia Beta Saloon 1975 Mazda 929 Coupé 1986 Mazda 929 Wagon 1979 Mazda 929 Hardtop 1982 Fiat Argenta 2.0 iniezione elettronica 1977 Toyota Carina TA14 1989 Subaru 1800 Wagon 1982 Hyundai Pony 1200TL 2-dr 1985 Hyundai Pony 1200 GL 1986 Maserati 425 Biturbo 1992 Rover 214 SEi 5-dr 2000 Rover 45 V6 Club 1994 Peugeot 205 'Junior' Diesel 1988 Volvo 760 Turbodiesel Saloon 1992 Talbot Express Autosleeper Rambler 2003 Renault Laguna SPEARS OR REAPERS
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Ether
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Apr 30, 2008 12:28:10 GMT
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I think it's the usual case of a minority ruining it for the rest. My housemate's a Max Power employee and I tagged along to a work do at some 'orrible cruise.
Yes, there were skanks in hotpants, lots of spotty oiks and some really (IMO) revolting cars. But what surprised me was how respectful they were on the roads.
We saw about twenty modded tatboxes on the motorway leading up to it - all were driving no faster than 80mph. Then when we bowled, we saw a Corsa in a darkened corner doing a burnout. The owner was asked to leave. Seriously.
The bloke who organised the event - on private land so it wouldn't have mattered if this clown was doing burnouts or not - said that he won't stand for dangerous driving. He runs a regional club, too, and works closely with his local constabulary.
Moral of the story - don't judge an oik by his, err, spoiler.
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Apr 30, 2008 12:36:38 GMT
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I think the point here is he already had an injunction for driving like a knob jockey before he was stopped again. Gets everything he deserves in my opinion.
Although the ignorance of the legal system never ceases to amaze me.
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Last Edit: Apr 30, 2008 12:37:20 GMT by danblez
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Apr 30, 2008 23:11:04 GMT
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Stupid. It was a wheel spin and a bit of speeding. If he's guilty then so is practically ever other driver who races away from the lights. You were there and saw the incident and are able to confirm that he was just "wheel spinning a little away from the lights" Just curious based on the strenght of your responce. Like Pillock says, its amazing these idiots don't kill and injur more people the standard of driving that is often displayed. You're quite right. I wasn't there and didn't witness it, but by the same token no one on here did. OK, so there isn't actually any useful evidence as to how sevre it was, I do feel however it is a little out of context with what happened. A 2 year suspended sentence?
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Hirst
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Apr 30, 2008 23:25:52 GMT
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I reckon that Hirst and the rest of the OAP+ Crew need to roll deep geriatric-stylz in Mansfield. Charged with reckless wearing of comfortable slacks and playing Heart FM at low volumes. I remember once driving the Charmant at exactly 30mph through an obvious police speed trap, complete with sunglasses, driving gloves and Magic 828 blasting. The policeman in question looked utterly baffled, and actually took his eyes off the radar thing he was holding just to stare in disbelief/disgust. Later on that day, I did a cheeky wheelspin out of a junction - bloody showed him. I'd like to say I had "Fork Tha Police" or "Cop Killer" blasting at the time, but Magic don't tend to play that sort of music. It was probably Lionel Richie or something.
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sparko
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i love cruising. its a place where me and all me buds can meet up and check out/slag off everybody's cars. its great, we are worse than women when we are there. its always oooooo them alloys don't look right with that kit or what is he doing with that smooth bumper and that grill. its awsome fun but yes there are indeed some numpties that ruin it. we used to go out every saturday night to southend/basildon with 4 or 5 cars in our lil group. it was a 15 min drive on a roads and we never sped or acted like numpties yet cruising is evil? nope. its a hobby that needs to be accepted and moved to private property where it can be regulated. If i went to the pub to talk footy, got smashed off my face and started some fights thats not evil. thats an 80 pound fine....
the police need to accept its a hobby that you can do with your mates. if they regulated it rather than tried to stop it then I'm sure they would get better reactions from the drivers. if a coopper came over to me and asked about my car i'd love it yet they just stare down thier nose and try and find something to pull you for.
specially if you have a bright orange, decked mk1 astra lol
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Seth
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I do feel however it is a little out of context with what happened. A 2 year suspended sentence? Umm, no, nothing like a 2 year suspended sentence actually. Read the first post!
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Follow your dreams or you might as well be a vegetable.
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it was a 15 min drive on a roads and we never sped or acted like numpties yet cruising is evil? But from what you say, you're not what I'd call 'Cruisers', you're car enthusiasts. Owners of modded cars in the majority do what we do - organise meetups, chat about cars, poke around under the bonnet. I have no problem at all with them. I remember going through a McD's in Nottingham late one night, as i needed food - I was in a ratty looking bay-window VW. There was a cruise there but as I sat in the carpark eating my ratburger meal I got no hassle, no laughs and didn't witness any stupid behaviour. As such, when one guy with an XR2 seemed to get a flat battery as his mates were leaving, I hopped out with my jumpstart pack and got him going. Took 30 seconds, he was happy, shared a few jokes and was on his way. Not all people who drive barrymobiles are idiots! Unfortunately there's a minority who think that causing trouble, collecting ASBOs, using up police resources and showing off is cool. I know exactly why these new laws were bought into the area, since I work just off the A611/A610 where the biggest hotspot was for cruising. This isn't a closed carpark, this is a busy road with cars parked everywhere, burnouts, accidents, racing around the roundabouts.... hundreds of cars, literally, on a mile-long stretch of road. As always then the minority have pushed it so far and given everyone a bad name. Even us of the retro riding fraternity, to a lot of people we're just 'car enthusiasts' and therefore bound to be causing trouble
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Never trust a man Who names himself Trevor. Or one day you might find He's not a real drug dealer.
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^^^ WHS.
Norman, the witness (who was there) said that smoke came from front and rear tyres. Driving hard enough to lock all 4 wheels on a public road is more than a little hijinks.
Sparko - the point most people miss on this injunction whle in their hurry to climb on a high horse or soap box is the specification "in a manner which causes a danger to the public or damage to private property" (or words to that effect). So half a dozen cars driving nomally is one thing , half a dozen cars doing 80 in a 30 and "handbrake-drifting" round roundabouts in traffic is...
Nottm & Notts seem to have been a Mecca for this sort of rowdyness, one night I recall there being a lot of arrests - a big fight - some drug bust and a whole load of DUI and peole there in stolen cars (this done specifically to bait the cops into chases). Most of the people who were up before the beak were from Birmingham, Leicester, Northampton, Sheffield.... Notts had got a rep as a place to come and cause trouble. Thats what the local authorities are up to stopping.
There are a number of folk who do "cruise" responsibly and I do feel sorry for them because they are getting wound up in the same thing and will have to be on double-good behviour...
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bortaf
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Obviousley the judge is the usuall "old fart on the edge of death and angry at anyone who has even a glimse of life left in em" type of old fart git who is so totaly dettached from real life that his only veiw of reality is the curse word force fed us in the news papers Evil my ! sad looking runts with no taist yes, eveil? do me a favour. as to smoking all four wheels i'd say he probably had the hand brake up while spinning the fronts, not exactly difficult and you don't exactly need to go fast to do it
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Last Edit: May 1, 2008 11:36:39 GMT by bortaf
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as to smoking all four wheels i'd say he probably had the hand brake up while spinning the fronts, not exactly difficult and you don't exactly need to go fast to do it But if you smoke all four wheels in your FWD car, in a town centre, with people all over the place, I'll still think you're an idiot whether you're going fast or not. What's the point of it? Even at 20mph you risk losing control of your car, mouting a pavement and flattening someone. If people want to drive like that, there's track days and drift days and RWYB and all sorts. If they choose to use public roads instead then they risk the attention of the police, quite rightly so.
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Never trust a man Who names himself Trevor. Or one day you might find He's not a real drug dealer.
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I often find the worst offenders to be in the least modified cars. You know the ones, the Corsa 1.2 with the Lexus lights, huge tailpipes and Halfords 17" wheels. Those who've spent a lot of time and money on their car tend to take care of it. The big problem is that the Police/Daily Mail readers/general public don't differentiate between them and the proper enthusiast- and that includes the proper enthusiast in the tastefully modified Retro car. These twunts will end up spoiling it for all of us. We've already got increasing legislation aimed at modified cars to contend with, the ironic thing is that the wannabe in the Corsa 1.2 doesn't even come under the scope of these regulations.
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I agree with Moggyman here. Used to have some friends who did the Birmingham cruise scene before it got snuffed out and it really was a case of turning up in your shagged out hatchback and driving it like a pillock, trying to do burnouts etc. They would literally race around the streets and it was just a very big accident waiting to happen. A shame as it does give ANYONE with a modded car a tarring with the brush.
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driving it like a pillock What, with great skill?
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Never trust a man Who names himself Trevor. Or one day you might find He's not a real drug dealer.
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Nathan
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The Nottingham criusing scene was actualy quite good back i the early 2000s, but then a small amount of people started ruining it by having stolen cars. Soon after that the whole scene moved to MFN in derby.
I think this lad was just some kid acting the curse word, not a criuser.
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Indeed, the MFN meets are legal and well self-policed. Any "antics" and you are made not-welcome.
Cruisers protesting that the twatty oiks in Corsas are not really cruisers is like me trying to tell folks that the saddo kids in Cradle of Filth hoodies are not real goths. Doesn't work that way. The NEP article uses the term "boy racer" and thats probably more acurate.
But to fall foul of the "cruiser" rules there had to be 6 of them (or was it 5? I forget now) and yeah, you do see scruffy POS hatchbacks hooning about in groups still. "cruising"
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Last Edit: May 1, 2008 13:08:35 GMT by akku
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