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Just got another one. The owner had seen some photos of my sad green example and went through the phone book to track me down (just as well my surname isn't that common) for more information a few years ago, & I gave him a CD copy of the Honda Life/360Z hardtop workshop manual & parts book. Then last month I get another phone call suggesting he was a little concerned about future parts supplies (almost non-existent unless you can think of a part from something else to ask for {Civic?} or perhaps supply a part for reference). So he was thinking of selling before it might need any serious work/parts. At first I didn't think I could afford or justify another with my green example still needing work but my father talked me into following it up & I ended up getting it.... Not that its perfect with its paint blistering & falling off the body fillered rear panel, rust in the front guards & behind the rear wheels, cracked rear hatch & chipped windscreen, torn seats, bent front bumper & nose, missing sun-visors, inoperative cooling fan-switch & uncountable small dents... but it looks respectable spectacular from a distance, runs and is terrific FUN to drive. www.cardomain.com/ride/3838058Owner had bought it 2nd hand in 1978 & used it regularly untill 1992 when he largely stopped using it, before deciding to take it for a weekly run to keep it healthy over the last few years. My friend directed me straight to a car-wash for him to wash it I nearly over heated it on the way home with the owners "manual" electric radiator fan switch, found turn indicator flasher failing and the car stalled at 3 successive traffic lights once the headlights were switched on... But its amazing fun & not for the shy being a guaranteed attention getter in its factory shade of metallic purple; its revvy 2-cylinder engine note arousing any who may not be looking... its tiny scale (roughly 10'x4') and missing rear badging adding to the confusion surrounding such a rare car. Honda had sold these for little more than 2 years after substantially revising its air-cooled Z360 coupe & export oriented Z600 to adopt the drivetrain of its new Honda Life Kei-car and adopting a pillarless hardtop body style. Meaning an 8cm longer wheelbase (same overall length) and transverse water-cooled 360cc 2-cylinder engine with its (separate) 4-speed transaxle now arranged in-line with the engine, tuned with twin carburetors to produce 36 hp before it reached its 9500rpm redline. But its life-span was ironically cut short by the success of Honda's Civic demanding more production space for the introduction of its 4-door variants, looming Japanese Emissions rules , and significant changes to the Kei-car tax category that would allow larger & bigger capacity vehicles that would have required significant investments of time & money if Honda was to remain at the forefront of this unique Japanese niche market. Now I have to figure out where to start fixing it up... & its owner DEFINITELY didn't want to see it pulled apart & unusable for any length of time (like my green one). It's off the road anyway for the moment without registration but at least I got to drive it home. Anyone want to guess how hard it's revving in top gear @ 100kmh / 60mph ?
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Oh man, that is so key! And its purple making it even cooler! I'd say its screaming in top gear at 100kph, but its so cool. I'd love one of these - nice find man
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Yes it is screaming at speed: 7300rpm @ 100kph But then redline is 9500!...not that you are terribly likely to reach that in top gear: contemporary roadtests suggesting a top speed of 75MPH@9100... it is 356cc after all. It's unlike anything else idling at the recommended 1100rpm, bringing it up to 2000 to let out the clutch. I'm already feeling the lightweight/ economical/ microcar snobbery and the Z flaunts it with so much style.
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Ha! Good stuff, glad you're enjoying it! [cough] get a video up [cough]
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Well " Z" hasn't been up to much recently; had to remove the distributor to fit a new radiator fan switch (shouldn't be necessary again with smaller EG Civic switch), started straight afterward but doesn't want to now. '77cord still needs details like wipers & repainting interior trim sorted.... I've been distracted by an '88 Integra 3d project I should possibly have on here also... Anyway scored some cheap new wheels via Ebay with the Integra in mind... But since I've previously managed to convert my Accord to the same stud pattern & it's in regular use, naturally it gets to try them on first 15x6.5" 'SpeedyHolotype-R'. Should it keep them?
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Not sure about those wheels man, they're a bit modern for my liking. I think this would look great on some smaller diameter 'mesh' type alloys or old school Japanese rims. And anyway, never mind this 'losing track and getting another project' business - what happening the little Z's?
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Jun 21, 2010 12:08:23 GMT
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Actually I'd love to get more of these: Watanabe style 14"(Rota?) wheels but so far only have the two I stumbled across cheaply at a wrecker. Probably in silver though. Fwd & 4x100 not really in tune with availability of "datsun" style Japanese wheels ------------------ While I had camera I also took some fresh ones of the Prelude now on '84 Honda CR-X wheels ------------------ A sucker for a project the Integra actually occurred before recent Z, starting from a potential organ donor that deserved better since integra are currently at prime dumping age & minimal value, making replacement parts readily available... for now. It might relieve Accord as a daily hack. ------------------ Winter has slowed me down most but I must investigate 'Z' ignition system, 2-cylinder with wasted spark unfamiliar to me.
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As said this Integra was never meant to happen! And I guess they still felt too 'modern' to me to show here earlier despite my having had them for quite a many months now, so here's their story so far: I had long been tempted to find a dead one for an alternative DOHC injected drivetrain for my '79 Accord (or '81 Prelude which might be easier) since the Integra is the Accord hatchbacks obvious successor. Or perhaps waiting until newer B18 options become more affordable. Or even an injected SOHC A20 from a 3rd gen Accord which might have a more torquey character/gearing closer to the 1.6l Accords original willing & flexible if a little underpowered character. The Integras DOHC D16 1.6-16v having a good reputation in various Civics & CR-X as well before it was eclipsed by the even revvier B16 Vtec. This one delivering 120hp as compared to my Accords 80, while its alloy block allowed it to be a good 20-30 kg lighter. The Accord already being 100 kg lighter than 'Teg' without "necessities" like pwr steering, Air-con & electric windows, & potentially stiffer with shorter rear, smaller hatch opening, thicker pillars & larger rear strut towers to tie things together. The idea was tempting... Even if it wouldn't bolt right in. A neighbor listed this sad paint stripped example on Ebay & didn't get a bid. I figured I could easily pay more buying the drivetrain & required ancillaries form a wrecker So wandered over for a better look. Not pretty after he had sanded off most of its paint thinking of painting it magenta for his daughter, since previous owners had damaged it and replaced a headlamp & frt guard, while bonnet & rear 1/4 window still badly needed replacement. He'd paid $300 for it needing a gearbox which he'd replaced, along with the clutch. The car being 270,000 km old but has acquired another engine somewhere along the line and having evidently had a boyracer owner fit stereo & alloy wheels stripped from it, stickers, crudely cut-down gearshift & an obvious oversized s/steel muffler remaining after it came off the road 4 years previous. I ended up paying $400 & he drove it over Unfortunately apart from the obvious damaged bonnet, rear side window & paint it appeared rust-free & straight, & being sentimental about killing cars (& curious about Integra) I knew I'd probably end up trying to fix it in spite of too many other projects. Predictably I sourced another bonnet from pick-a-part wreckers when on sale for $25(!) & missing speakers & their grilles & mountings, and I already had a few spare factory Integra alloy wheels stashed away but wasn't about to rush in to it expending time & money with other projects on the go.... Then few months later a friend called me up saying he'd been offered its lost twin extremely cheaply from a car-yard customer of his... This faded red '88 needing a water pump amongst other things...They'd not had any interest in it & didn't want to invest more money sorting it out. At first I didn't want to touch it with enough problems already in my life & its obviously dubious matted paint around the rear, while the rest of its faded paint had virtually been rubbed though in attempts to get it shiny. But a second inspection showed it was basicly nice & original otherwise & the wheel arches looked original so there wasn't badly repaired accident damage to the rear quarters.... I succummed to buying it... Why do better/cheaper examples always seem to appear once you have a car needing attention?
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So I got new w/pump & timing belt to replace the old... Definately needed replacing! The thermostatic idle raiser & coolant hoses leading to it were also thoroughly blocked with rust deposits also as a result so the fuel injection system set the idle fluctuating wildly once the car was vaguely warmed up, greatly delayed by the fact previous owners had by-passed the cooling fan thermo-switch so the fans ran all the time! Idle was still crazy until all the air bubbles were bled from the cooling system. Rear hatch rusty & also previously accident damaged & badly repaired, compounded by the steel reinforcements within the factory rubber spoiler rusting out. So I intended to buy a 5-doors rear hatch (Badged as Rovers in Aust. since Rover did a remarkable job selling Hondas generally unloved Quintet as their own in Australia); they weren't sold with the rust-prone spoiler otherwise standard here on 3dr Integra & shared the same rear panels with a slightly longer w/base. Also found frt discs massively undersize and that previously replaced windscreen leaks! Expected a little rust under rear 1/4 window trims & rear hatch seal as found on the cars left side, & knew about crusty right rear wheel arch. Was rather shocked at the masking taped & body fillered 4"x2" hole under the window trim on the right side though & might need some properly shaped metal for the area since repairs will require window out & extend down into visible areas of the 1/4 panel. Glad I have a welder! And a friend with a wrecked example to raid for parts!
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Went & visited my friend with a wrecked integra he'd bought for its engine. So I got to raid some other bits I needed or thought worth keeping for use between the two Integra or even Accord. Rear glass for integra #1 & appropriate metal for #2. Accord was well loaded up. Sadly his rear hatch was terribly rusty under its spoiler..... So I bought a good 5-door one from a wrecker -no spoiler ever fitted The rear wheel arch lip & rear side window sill rust revealed in its entirety after removing glass & attacking with wire wheel on the angle grinder. Welded, filled & repainted the rusty areas Shiny... no more DOHC Programmed Fuel Injection decals though. I knew the cars original rear hatch was a disaster but dug into the filler to see how bad previous repairs were, & I cut into it to play with the shape of the upper edge to see what it might look with a 3g integra style dipped shape, but I'd say it is too far gone to use. Maybe I could play that rusty white one..... Replacing the rear hatch I was suspicious of minor rust in the joint at the rear edge of the roof so formed and drilled a number of small drainage holes adjacent to the hatch hinge mountings, but after further probing also found further surprising rust in the rear edge of the roof. Seems Honda formed a small box-section here which evidently couldn't be properly rust-proofed/primed. After repairing the rust holes I drilled a number of larger holes in the area for paint access. I bought that set of alloy wheels shown ages ago with the Integra in mind: But I think they're the Accords now; seem to suit it better?, certainly get more attention than the old ones. The basic steel wheels already on the 'teg' have good tires & don't look bad freed of those ugly original wheel covers anyway, (bit like ATS cups), but might need painting (from black to grey), & some old style badged bearing caps. In either case I also scored a set of the more delicately styled wheels I had on the Accord in a 15" size to try instead one day... I think the cars all sorted & road ready now but I'm still saving up to register & insure it for the road since it isn't strictly needed with Accord still doing daily duty... Though Accord could do with time-out for an engine rebuild sooner or later.. '77 about to go on the road (cheaper classic/historic/club road registration for occasional use like the Prelude) Purple Z working fine but awaiting a bigger garage to allow minor de-rusting, better repairs & repaint
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Once again I should have updated this a while ago since the white '77 Accord has been out & about for a while now. Before I did though I had to attack a few other little things upon it.. Like the sun disintegrated front bumper indicator lamp housing I replaced some time ago... The Rear lamp housings were also suffering from sun exposure -especially reversing lamps whose clear lenses didn't block as much light & were thinly painted, so were starting to crumble & no longer able to retain their globes. So the rear lamps were dis-assembled and the remains of their housings glued back together, before being thoroughly filled & painted. I also removed the rear bumper to repaint areas behind that were leaving stains from surface rust ( & fill hole of removed rear wiper while at it)... Unfortunately I placed the bumper trims in the boot and they were MELTED by the summer sun! I suppose I'll have to replace these now and fit a rigid luggage cover from a later Accord. Apparently a vinyl one was sometimes offered as an accessory for these early examples before the rigid one was made standard for our market in '78. Regarding the cars body side trims, for the moment I've bought some adhesive generic aftermarket trims of a similar size to the original for the moment but wanted to space them out a bit further from the body since the bodies upper crease still protrudes out further than the trims negating their usefulness. '80-81 Accords received different, thicker trims for some markets but ours only became deeper & ribbed. I had some strips of 10mm thick plastic cut; tapered away at the front tip of the doors to allow for their opening, and used these behind the trims. I also had to do something about the cracked engine support stay -from firewall to head, but had no success sourcing replacements from Honda or aftermarket parts suppliers, and most Accord seem to suffer the same problem. I had some urethane automotive windscreen adhesive so used that to fill a cracked example, (before covering in plastic food wrap pulled tight for minimal wrinkles & sandwiched by oversized washers to give a reasonable appearance once adhesive had set & these were removed). Plastic front guard liners from an '81 Accord added. I also had to replace the gearshift selector oil seal. (Similarly had no luck sourcing until I gave up & asked aftermarket suppliers about early Civic parts -Honda being even less useful.) Removing the shift linkage from the gearbox proved a minor pain by being retained by a stubborn little pin that I finally forced out with an 8mm bolt through a large nut by a small g-clamp. I should have replaced it by a simple nut and bolt as Honda did for my '79. Similarly I should have sourced a '79 & on magnetic gearbox drain bolt. Anyway I FINALLY got around to getting the car back on the road with limited-use Classic/Historic registration so here are some more pictures! The car certainly feels healthy & shows up my well-used beige '79 example in some areas like a crisp shift linkage (though syncromesh easy to beat), and the engine even feels more lively & elastic without the later upper-firewall/under-plenumn sound insulation and the later cars emphasized torque, even though later 1602cc engine has shorter stroke so "should" rev easier. But the earlier cars seem to have a lighter flywheel, smaller clutch & more evenly spaced 'close ratio' gearbox. Would like to paint wheels - possibly darker grey like early Civic? I've fitted some later Accord trim-rings.
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Out & about with the local Honda club My '79 with an '81 Unfortunately that white '81 didn't come along the next time; Iwanted to compare with '77. Also took it along to when I went to the Ballarat swap meet 100km? away (for car & motor bike bits; BIG- but spread out, estimated 15km of walking & walked 2 1/2 times), where I was hoping to get some '67-8 Honda CD90 bits.... bought another '76-8 side mirror & foolishly another old CT90...with another 3 ct90 parts bikes/frames. Fitted 1 or 2 in the '79 before but these will be delivered by a friend. One of the heater hoses started spraying coolant about from a hole by the hose clamp so had to be shortened at a friends house before I left, but otherwise behaved well. Gearshift lever does sometimes "sizzle" with audible vibrations at speed unlike my '79's loose, worn linkage. And there is wind noise on the drives side from either the door or window seal. Since there were glass fragments in the door to suggest the glass had been replaced so maybe I should try adjusting its fit slightly. the 1967 CT90
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May 20, 2011 12:05:58 GMT
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Well as said somewhere here previously I've long been considering ideas for upgrading an Accord drivetrain, & even bought an '88 integra with DOHC 16v EFI 1.6 l D16A1 before putting that car aside as potentially salvageable with no rust & only "bolt-on" damage; besides I was worried the drivetrain might not have quite the character I'd got used to with my Accord (though must admit the '77 has a nicely different character), with its reputation for low gearing & revs... even though I still haven't really had a chance to experience that properly without confidence I've got the money to register & insure the nicer '88 now sitting in the drive. I had another moment of weakness seeing a 2nd gen integra 1.8 l b18a1 (non-vtec) drivetrain advertised for sale cheaply, the seller wreaking his damaged car & agreed to sell EFI system, wiring etc & frt exhaust as well for reasonable sum. Naturally I was worried this might still become unreasonable once other necessary or unforeseen bits were added to the bill... so once again ended up buying the whole thing.. A Sept. 1989 2nd gen Honda Integra having covered 273,000km with 15"; aftermarket alloy wheels, lights & electric sunroof that had been "totaled"; by its owners running into the corner of a truck damaging bonnet, R.fender, headlight & some of the mounting structure .
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I should add some more information upon this concept; that of putting 2nd gen Integra drivetrain into a 1st gen Accord. Hopefully this sad example that has been sitting on my parents drive a few years now after it was abandoned at a local w/shop after a roadworthy check showed some of the attention it would need, and as a scruffy automatic that looks like it had been used as a teenagers plaything with numerous scrapes & poorly repaired & re-damaged front panels it wouldn't exactly be desirable to everybody. When the w/shops lease ran out & relocated I ended up with it. A match for my own example that I would hesitate to change so radically at the risk of the character I have enjoyed for so long. An integra drivetrain should spice up the 200kg lighter Accord sufficiently without getting absurd, the DOHC alloy engine itself probably a good 20kg lighter than the cast-iron SOHC originally fitted. Though the drivetrain certainly will not just bolt-in without a complete revision of the Accords engine mount locations.. a 3g Accord 2l SOHC would probably be easier, with it's rare 1st generation of the B20 DOHC engine most desirable.. but never sold here so RARE, & difficult to repair/maintain/legalise. Also the Accord didn't shape its front subframe to allow the passage of an exhaust from the front side of the engine.... Nor the pump, fuel line & wiring revisions required for a modern fuel injection setup. Naturally I would want to upgrade the brakes to match, much as I already have on my old '79: Converting to Hondas newer 4x100 PCD stud-pattern (instead of 4x120). Fitting 2nd gen Prelude rear discs & calipers. At the front I could go for 1g Integra/ 4g Civic 242mm vented disc rotors with 3g Prelude calipers... But would like to try for 262mm 4g Civic Vtec/2g Integra disc rotors with CRV/4g Accord wagon/4g Prelude Vtec calipers that I hear might fit. Suspension... must benefit from new dampers & springs, preferably adjustable to suit & sitting lower than original, particularly at the front. At least its simple struts at all corners. As my fantasy Accord naturally that would not be the end of it by any means... De-badged & de-trimmed. 1g Integra seats. 4g Civic hatch dash pad? Rear valance is rusted through...so remove & add 'diffuser' venting. Concealed LED rear license plate lamps replacing huge chrome items. Bonded flush windscreens for the additional strength (chrome trims stuck on top). Side window gutters removed & relocated for flushness. Recessed '77 headlamp mtgs with custom recessed '79 style grille. Custom chromey bumpers... or none with custom frt panel in its place. Fiberglass reproduction '77 frt fenders (lower wheel arch to tyres). Polycarbonate rear windows. Projector headlamps? Getting sillyer: Shaved door handles. Flush & frameless door glass (could be a nightmare but 2g Integra was one of few Honda to do it). Would love to conceal wipers.. Convert the Integra's cable clutch operation to hydraulic like the Accord ? (3g integra is.. but still worth too much here) Either way it's not likely to happen soon. Other cars need attention first... & I need a new garage to give them that attention before I even have room to bring the Sad Accord to my place from my parents.
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More problems. There was a major hail storm upon Christmas day 2011 across the north of Melbourne and the Prelude was staying outside at my parents place due to a lack of space while I contemplate rebuilding/enlarging the garage at mine. I connected up the battery, swapped a flat tyre with the spare & took it for a drive upon Christmas eve for the first time since August. Of course it behaved itself perfectly. Since my mother had managed to tear corner of the front bumper & indicator away from my CR-X that she normally uses the week previous, it stayed in the Garage whilst we took my faithful Accord for Christmas Lunch/Dinner at my Cousins in the far south east of the city upon that Hot & humid morning not returning until after dark. Here was the sight to greet me upon Boxing day: The car had been parked under the Elm trees for shelter from the summer sun but the hailstorm had blasted the leaves from the trees, washed a large portion of the driveway out onto the main road, smashed holes in most of the Acrylic skylights of my parents roof and beneath this blanket of leaves had added innumerable dents to the Prelude, especially the bonnet but also the roof & boot-lid. It also added innumerable dents to a pair of Honda Z & '79 Accord Hatchbacks I was also hoping to restore. I have (amazingly) already managed to buy another bonnet & boot-lid for it though they have suffered rust & been repainted before so they certainly aren't as nice as the originals... Hope I can knock out the smaller dents from the cars roof. Edit: The potential 1971 Honda 360 coupe projects - air cooled, last used on the roads in 1984 and 1981! Plenty of rust & damage already Yellows engine is seized. Red has the bottom half of an N600 engine... with bad crankshaft/bearings & no top-end. Now they have hail damaged roof & bonnets too.
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Bad luck with the hailstorm man, great to see the little Z's though - that really is quite the collection you've built up!
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I must admit to having been on a slow and ultimately silly wheel buying spree over the last year or two as well since they could be shared between several of the cars. Has it become a problem? I wanted a complete set of those Watanabe style wheels for the Accord so the search had me keeping a constant eye out upon Ebay; causing me to buy a number of other Ebay "bargains" to tuck away, such as A set of the rare (here) dealer option '79 Prelude 13x5 5-spoke alloy wheels for my Prelude ($50). A set of '88 CRX Si "teardrop" 14x5.5 alloys ($35) since my CR-X SiR had aftermarket wheels. A set of scuffed, cosmetically damaged machine finish dealer option '87 Prelude 14x5.5 alloys ($25) An immaculate set of the directional (left/right handed) '87 Prelude wheel covers ($20) A set of the machine finish dealer option '90 Integra 14x5.5 alloys ($25) A set of ($60) '93 Mazda MX-3 5-spoke 15x6 and ($35) '89 mazda MX-5 14x5.5 "sunflower" alloy wheels (need ctr bore hole enlarged 1mm) A set of 4 genuine '92? Mugen RNR 15x6 alloy wheels for $40!...though one had a potentially dangerous crack developing upon a spoke (they have a reputation for that), so a friend working in Japan was enlisted to buy a replacement from Yahoo Japan auctions ($60)... just have to paint it to match others & buy tyres... but do I use such rare, special, valuable(?) but fragile(?) lightweight wheels regularly? I had also still been after wheels for the Integra having decided the "Speedy Holotype" wheels looked too solid, soft & heavy for it whilst looking soo much better upon the Accord. I had bought another set of the BSA '245' 6-spoke alloy wheels like the Accords, but 15" rather than 14" since Integra was 14" factory. Not so clever; one or two turned out to be badly warped & I didn't even spot that for some months as I the car isn't in use & wheels didn't have tyres, but I thought they looked just right for the Integras sharp (flimsy?) '80's lines. Last month I FINALLY found another set (branded as Avanti) in a mock chrome finish: The silver ones looked as great as the bling "chrome" finish upon these examples looks awful. The design always looks bigger than it actually is so doesn't dwarf the brake discs too badly. Silver like the older BSA wheels?, Dark grey centres? Am I bold enough for black ? (testing with tape on front spokes) I could always try some of those other purchases for it. Anyway, Remember these: Last week I FINALLY managed to get a complete set after spotting them at a swap meeting... so $100 later... They do need a repaint though having been Silver, Red, & this darker grey metallic. I love the idea of the current colour but it does leave them looking a little lost after the brighter silver of most of the other wheels the car has worn. At 14x6 they certainly aren't awesome/spectacular/ridiculous in size or offset but like Escorts on Minilites I think they risk looking like too much of a cliche on a Japanese car even though they aren't actually that common here.. Especially on Accords. Tyres on them probably aren't all that great to judge from the amount of lift-off oversteer I felt in a city center intersection last week (had been accelerating hard before I backed off.) I should probably throw in this photoshop of the old black ones as well since I hadn't been so sure of that look, so had to experiment:
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Though that wasn't the only recent purchase to involve the Accord last week. Too practical for its own good. Got to out do all these "scene" pictures of VW & Honda Civics with bicycles on roof racks, (roof rack was in the boot & two bicycles for my nephews on the front seat!) From this thread: retrorides.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=othrmod&action=display&thread=106271&page=2After a few hours driving & almost 350km with a slight detour to visit my brother & nephews I have it on the drive. The lady selling it had had it almost 30 years but it hadn't been used for several years after her husband had run over the dog... Thankfully he was about to help load it aboard the car after I unbolted its handlebars & huge rear light to be sure, though we should have leaned it over the other way so the frt. wheel would have fitted behind the passenger seat & I would have been able to slide my seat back for a reasonable driving position! Seems pretty complete bar indicators & mirrors though left handlebar switch block unhealthy, Right mirror/handlever mounting damaged, frt fender bent & cracked, seat base has cracked through & been roughly welded together already, all control cables are a disaster, one steering bumpstop has been broken off and the handle bars and front forks appear to be twisted.... But I topped up the battery with water & charged it for a few hours, put air in it's tyres, gave it an oil change, fuel & it soon started up. It's alive !!! Check brakes next I guess & wonder what to do about the twisted frt suspension?
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Nice gen 2 Integra mate! (Perhaps I'm biased?!) Can yours be fixed?
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Luckily for me the 2nd gen Integra probably doesn't deserve to be repaired, the door gaps & the way it clatters shut suggests the front impact has passed in to the main structure, but there's also previously "repaired" damage to the rear of the car that has left a subtle crease from the corner of the fuel filler down to the wheel-arch and evidence of body filler on the rear quarters, poor rear hatch gaps, and (unrelated) dents in the roof around the sunroof (was told the glass sunroof had been replaced before). It would be too tempting to repair otherwise, overall the shape may be a little more conservative than other Integras but it was the only one to get frameless windows and the shaping of the wheelarches is the nicest of them all, the low cowl/deep windscreen is amazing and it feels nice & solid, if perhaps heavier & bigger than the 1st gen. I was soo tempted when another in the same colour was for sale unregistered & with faulty door glass just around the corner. This one sounds spectacular & not ridiculously loud without its rear muffler since the seller had already sold that to a friend.
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