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Colonelk Posted a lot Posts: 3,740 Club RR Member Number: 83	1991 Vauxhall Carlton 2.0 Drifter Colonelk @colonelk Club Retro Rides Member 83
	Nov 17, 2006 19:04:09 GMT Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top
	Ok, seeing as my tramper got some attention in the other thread of mine and mainly because I'm an attention whore ;D heres a thread on my Trampdrift Carlton. If you don't know what Trampdrifting is, its basically drifting with no money. Check out www.trampdrift.com for more info FAO Moderators.... if this isnt deemed retro worthy feel free to remove Ok.... here we go.......... Ill admit this is a bit of copy and paste action from another forum....... --------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Why a carlton you ask? Well I don't have loadsa cash, want to get into drifting and I'm no big fan of S13's truth be told.... and I'm a vaux boy at heart.... so I thought why not? Couldnt afford the juice on a 3.0 24v GSi though so thought Id go with a 2.0. Good GSis are hard to find anyway. 2.0s weigh about the same as a standard S13 too. My steed as purchased.... www.totalcarlton.com/images/mark/justpurchased.JPG [/img] A reasonably sound (so I thought!) Carlton with some untidyness to the panels. Perfect for me to go hooning around in and not cry too much if I damage it. First niggles came through were a holy exhaust system, and a leaking heater Matrix. Got some alloys for it.... (need spacers though) Pics of new parts fitted..... Pics of SH bits fitted on suspension..... (yes I know I need to tidy the garage! :rolleyes: ) Casualty of war.... Thats what happens when you use an 3/8th Drive cheap rachet with a 6ft breaker bar! Its survived 5 or 6 years of semi regular breaker-bar action though, so it still gets respect from me :nod: Carlton with front suspension bits fitted (back looks lower than normal due to lots and lots of tools in the boot.) MMMMMMMMMMMM Carbon Kevlar for £25..... Amazingly the width of the rails was perfect for the carlton mounting points! The rear holes needed ovaling slightly, but otherwise..... booom straight in! haha! And what a difference to the drive! Makes the car feel soooooo different. its untrue. Healthy 15kg saving over the standard item also :cool: Spacers ordered for alloys, although now I'm tempted by a set of 8x18's for £200! Do I? don't I? Was contemplating spending £100 on refurbing the 16s. But they are weaksauce 6.5 width. Gah gah gah! Started stripping the beast late last night... Ok no pics I'm afraid as Ive been stripping like a... err..... stripper? lmao Anyhow! Weight removed so far.... Spare wheel:- 17kg Tar from boot:- 5kg Front seat:- 23kg Rear Seat (not inc bench):- 12kg Rear bench:- Rear trim:- Seatbelt mechs rear and 1 front:- Tar and heavy sounddeadening material from cabin:- (gonna be a fair few kgs in that one I reckon) Weight added..... Bucket seat:- 5kg Harnesses and mounts:- 3kg So in total Ive definitely lost around 49kgs, and thats only what I have weighed! the is firmly in the air, it pulls better, stops better..... and generally I'm loving it MORE strippage tomorrow.... and hopefully more weighage too! Just need some petrol to start getting all that smeggy leftover tar off :yuck: Future plans..... more strippage, welded diff, fit rear springs and double ARB..... then its time to go have lotsa fun oooooooooooh yeaaaaaaaah. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Just been out for another drive since todays work (pics to follow WHEN I can log into photobucket.com) Its either rather slippy out there or I'm going to have to learn about sideways very very quickly Wheelspin into 3rd! Wheels lock on downshifts! Sideways everywhere! I FRIKKIN LOVE IT Oooh, had a lovely little "I didnt know they rust THERE" moment today as well. Was pulling the carpet up in the front passenger footwell, and one of the little lugs thats supposed to hold it in flicked out.... "hmm makes my life easier" thinks I! Then I spot the rust on the end of it..... "Hmmm, thats not so good"..... poke finger where is came from..... finger goes straight through into front wheelarch.... "Hmmmmm..... curse word" Its only a small hole to be fair, about 2 inch square, will have to get it welded ASAP. Good job I found it now though! Was wondering why my car was always so wet inside! :doh: Anyhow, removed headlining today, did the final 'adjust' on the bucket position, its perfect now. Removed some more tar pads. Didnt get HUUUGE amounts done due to waking up about 1pm oh well. Oh yeah, played with the adjustment on the front shockers.... think they were on maximum soft so were a tad wallowy.... now on max hard seems to have eliminated wobblyness. Anyone know which way is harder on a Koni adjustable strut? Clockwise / anti? Sitting even higher at the back now! Oh yeah, my dad knocked my digicam off the table :eek: but in a strange moment of luck it fell onto the bag of tar pads next to the table which cushioned its fall perfectly :eek: Oh yeah forgot to say.... can even still hear the radio @ 90mph quite happily, so thats good (hey this is my daily driver don't forget! Need choons every now and again!) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- AAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHHAHAH After what seems like eleventy million years, Ive finally a- got a diff welded b- got it welded so the driveshafts go back in and most importantly.... c- fitted the mutherlurver! Very Happy! Its fooking ace. Forgotten how completely nuts cars with welded diffs are to drive! I'm like this.... everywhere now. I just hope I don't break anything! Its been ok so far! (touch wood) :yuck: Goes sideways nicely too, did a lil clutch kick in the dry and it gave me portions of sideways compared to the old "spin one wheel up" scenario. It even handles nicely! Chuck it into a bend with some gusto and you get a nice neutral drift going on, after the initial resistance to turn. Love it. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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Colonelk Posted a lot Posts: 3,740 Club RR Member Number: 83	1991 Vauxhall Carlton 2.0 Drifter Colonelk @colonelk Club Retro Rides Member 83
	Nov 17, 2006 19:06:29 GMT Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top
	Action shot from Trampdrift 1000! A little write up on the TrampDrift1000 I competed in a few weeks ago Set off mid friday afternoon to rendezvous with the rest of the convoy who were busy ripping it up at a practise night at Teeside. Only took me around 6 1/2 hours to get there! One 5 mile section took me a FECKING hour to drive! Anyhow, promptly pulled up at Teeside feeling shattered, just as everyone was finishing up on the track "That was the best days drifting Ive EVER had" was pretty much most peoples response. Ghey, I knew I should of taken the whole day off! Oh well. We cracked open the beers and had a bit of a laugh until I realised there was no campsite, just a car park. And my car was full of tyres. DOH! Oh well, pulled into the pit area (we were locked into the racetrack by this point) empted out all the tyres and made a nice bed where my passenger seat used to reside. Was actually stonkingly comfortable! No more tents at Billing! haha! Anyhow, next day, got the car stickered up courtesy of Stavros at Redline (I chose the number 3/4) and we set off around lunch. Destination:- Crail around 250 miles away! This took a lot longer than it really should, as Mikey's motor (Black stripped E28 535 beast) seems to have a service interval of approximately 25miles :doh: lmao So after stops to check diff oil, fill diff oil, fill gearbox oil, re-attach the exhaust downpipe (many times LOL), re-attach front bumper etc we finally rendezvoused with the Scottish crew at the Tescos in Edinburgh. Amazingly, our 'support vehicle' a white Astramax diesel with a top speed of 57mph, which we'd left to fend for himself many hours before had beaten us there by quite a large margin! Any tortoise and the hare gen? lmao Anyhow, now the large convoy took off for crail. Scotlands scary! Lots of random kids playing on crash barriers in the fog :confused: And what fog! Couldnt see a bleeding thing! :yuck: After what seemed like another few hours of fog, we arrived and were guided to the 'camping' area. With a gale force wind beating in, and a swamp masquerading as a camping area, we made a wind break out of cars and lit the barbies! I was awoken the next morning by the sound of rain. Heavy rain. Oh smeg. This is going to be seriously annoying. Thankfully we were offered a nice dry warehouse to swap tyres. (I later found out I neednt have bothered! :rolleyes: ) Pulled up at the track and it was soaked as in a decent inch of water at the shallow parts. Didnt stop us having a fun spinning session though lmao and only 1 car conked out with water in the lectrics. :cool: Thankfully the rain eased a bit, and the deeper water was confined to one watersplash tyre scenario out of the first corner. I got straight out there and span twice lmao. But soon I was hooking bits and pieces together. By my 3rd practise session (of 3 laps) things were coming together. Qualifying run 1. I drove like a tool and spun on every corner :doh: Qualifying run 2. Drove like a hero and hooked it all together! lmao This was enough to get me into the final 16! (out of 35) That means only 1 thing..... TWIN DRIFTING :eek: (This was my first ever real practise / comp remember!) I was up against a lad in a fetching Blue 505, apparently one of the main chaps from Peugeot Ecosse? I didnt fancy my chances as Id seen some of his practise and he was pretty good. First round, he goes first, I follow..... no point not trying so I went balls out, didnt spin, held it as tight as I dare to the Pug and got some nice angle. Told by the judges we were dead even. NICE! Second run.... me first. "Just don't spin" says the helpful Stiggy (one of the judges) with an evil grin on his face. Smeg. Out we go, I know he's behind me and I'm giving it full beans. Coming into the second corner the carly starts understeering a tad, smeg, kick the clutch but didnt catch it fast enough (this part of the track was rediculously greasy!) round I go to see the Blue 505 speed past sideways GHEY! Oh well, My only ambition had been not to come last so Id blown that out of the water! lmao Great fun, and a big grin on my face all day long that even the rain couldnt wipe off. Lots of pics here..... www.driftworks.com/forum/showthread.php?t=23492 www.driftworks.com/forum/showthread.php?t=23545 The drive back was immense. Crail to High wycombe in one run.... about 10hours worth! We got seperated from the main group (we were at the back) when sid's car went down to 1 wheel drive. He'd sheared all the bolts holding the driveshaft to the diff! Thankfully due to the way the Volvo is made, we just undid the other end and threw the driveshaft in the back! ! 1WD all the way back for him from scotland to Essex! Legend! He also hit a dead fox and old exhaust on the motorway which tried their best to rip the side exit exhaust off. Madness. 10hours in a bucket seat doesnt do much for circulation either!
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Colonelk Posted a lot Posts: 3,740 Club RR Member Number: 83	1991 Vauxhall Carlton 2.0 Drifter Colonelk @colonelk Club Retro Rides Member 83
	Nov 17, 2006 19:11:04 GMT Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top
	Current interior.... ......and a rare CLEAN exterior shot LOL
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Colonelk Posted a lot Posts: 3,740 Club RR Member Number: 83	1991 Vauxhall Carlton 2.0 Drifter Colonelk @colonelk Club Retro Rides Member 83
	Nov 17, 2006 19:12:31 GMT Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top
	Got LOADS of work to do to her this winter so stay tuned. She comes off the road after her last practise day this year.... December 3rd.
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tigran Club Retro Rides Member In rust we trust. Amen. Posts: 6,444 Club RR Member Number: 142	1991 Vauxhall Carlton 2.0 Drifter tigran @tigran Club Retro Rides Member 142
	Nov 17, 2006 19:13:39 GMT Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top
	What's the plans for time off the road? p.s. damn you over on mig, since reading the thread first i have been pondering which of the cars could 'do' TD'ing.
	1964 Rover P5 i6 1987 BMW 525e - The Rusty Streak 1992 Micra K10 2001 BMW E46 316i 2002 BMW E46 330Ci 2013 BMW F31 320d 2018 BMW G31 530d

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dollywobbler Posted hell of a lot Retro Japanese magazine Posts: 6,398	1991 Vauxhall Carlton 2.0 Drifter dollywobbler @dollywobbler
	Nov 17, 2006 19:14:57 GMT Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top
	Does look a lot of fun. And Sierras are dirt cheap at the moment. Remember having some tail-out antics in my Dad's 1.8 many years ago but Tramp Drifting looks a lot of fun! This diff business sounds iffy for road use though. Not ideal cars in the snow perhaps...
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bstardchild Club Retro Rides Member Posts: 14,894 Club RR Member Number: 71	1991 Vauxhall Carlton 2.0 Drifter bstardchild @bstardchild Club Retro Rides Member 71
	Nov 17, 2006 19:24:00 GMT Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top
	Kwality....... Nice to see something other than BMW's An rear drive J stuff being used for drifting


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Colonelk Posted a lot Posts: 3,740 Club RR Member Number: 83	1991 Vauxhall Carlton 2.0 Drifter Colonelk @colonelk Club Retro Rides Member 83
	Nov 17, 2006 19:25:25 GMT Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top
	LOL Tigran....... -Repair chassis legs -Replace rear arches -Omega V6 engine / box / rear subframe -lots of weight saving -hydro handbrake -De-ABS I'm sure theres much more than that, thats just off the top of my head. Dollywobbler....... the diff would be iffy for road use IF you drive like a tit in the wet. I however tickle the throttle with a silken glove when wet. In the dry it makes no odds at all. In the snow...... cant see it being worse than my old standard Omega was. Which was horrendous!
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Lewis Posted hell of a lot Got 8 cylinders, uses 'em all... Posts: 7,625	1991 Vauxhall Carlton 2.0 Drifter Lewis @lewisk78
	Nov 17, 2006 20:36:02 GMT Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top
	Hey this is great! Excellent writeup and story there. Love it! All you need is some 5 foot long dragon "vinylz" for the side now (I joke!) Car looks quite suited to its task, coming together a real treat! Interesting to see it's quite useable without all the deadening and things...Was considering losing the interior on mine at some point


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dollywobbler Posted hell of a lot Retro Japanese magazine Posts: 6,398	1991 Vauxhall Carlton 2.0 Drifter dollywobbler @dollywobbler
	Nov 17, 2006 20:46:59 GMT Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top
	Hmmm, a mate of mine has a Camero - Matt! Fancy welding the diff up on it?! Am gutted that all of my cars are FWD. Where's the fun in that?
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surprisingskoda Probably posted too much Posts: 10,922	1991 Vauxhall Carlton 2.0 Drifter surprisingskoda @surprisingskoda
	Nov 17, 2006 23:32:08 GMT Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top
	bstardchild said: Kwality....... Nice to see something other than BMW's An rear drive J stuff being used for drifting come to ireland mate i swear you will die of excitement watching people 'drift' [ie DESTROY] all manner of sierras, carltons, omegas, morris minor... dollywobbler said: Hmmm, a mate of mine has a Camero - Matt! Fancy welding the diff up on it?! Am gutted that all of my cars are FWD. Where's the fun in that? a)torquesteer b)understeer
	...he answered and said, I believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God. Acts 8:37 retrorides.proboards.com/thread/170153/continuous-thread-skodas-bmws-austins I drive a Subaru, ride a Ducati, race an Austin, cruise in a Chevy, and break BMWs

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dollywobbler Posted hell of a lot Retro Japanese magazine Posts: 6,398	1991 Vauxhall Carlton 2.0 Drifter dollywobbler @dollywobbler
	Nov 18, 2006 11:24:12 GMT Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top
	Torque steer with 29, 40 or about 70 bhp? Naaaah! I hate understeer as well. Hanging the tail out is great fun but not going around a bend is just terrifying!
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qwerty Club Retro Rides Member Posts: 2,410 Club RR Member Number: 52	1991 Vauxhall Carlton 2.0 Drifter qwerty @qwerty Club Retro Rides Member 52
	Nov 18, 2006 11:34:22 GMT Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top
	How often is there drifting on at Teeside?? Its only 45mins away from me.
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Colonelk Posted a lot Posts: 3,740 Club RR Member Number: 83	1991 Vauxhall Carlton 2.0 Drifter Colonelk @colonelk Club Retro Rides Member 83
	Nov 18, 2006 14:31:50 GMT Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top
	SurprisingSkoda.... thats right lad, they use a whole host of machinery out in Ireland.... much more interesting than the UK posses#'s obsession with S-bodys thats for sure. Qwerty..... they've only just started doing it but they hope to make it a regular fixture
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trg1984 Posted hell of a lot pitying fools since 1984 Posts: 6,503	1991 Vauxhall Carlton 2.0 Drifter trg1984 @trg1984
	Nov 18, 2006 17:46:50 GMT Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top
	id like to see it in full police colour for drifting. TD is a great idea. motor sport for 500 quidels, awesome!!!


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topi Posted a lot It's a race car officer, I swear! Posts: 1,039	1991 Vauxhall Carlton 2.0 Drifter topi @topi
	Nov 18, 2006 19:56:28 GMT Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top
	I remember seeing an Omega used for drifting in Ireland that had all the Police livery on it. Again, the Irish win haha. Rock on the TrampDrift.


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