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Quite a tidy motor, starts first time and tootles along fantastic. Great fun to drive! Theres filler in the bottom of the doors, I'm hoping to replace all 4 of them, otherwise suprisingly rust free. After that a bit of filler work for dents and the odd rust scab and a respray and tidy up. No seat belts, starting handle in boot, fins. Nuff said. ;D Anyone know where I can get service parts and general spares? Any ideas on what mods to make to it? I could do with a spin on oil filter kit!
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1987 Maestro 1.6 HL perkins diesel conversion 1986 Audi 100 Avant 1800cc on LPG 1979 Allegro Series 2 special 4 door 1500cc with vynil roof. IN BITS. HERITAGE ISSUES.
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They are such a nice looking car,.. would be good if a few more got a bit of treatment (obviously have stock ones is also good ) ... Trying to work out the heritage for "in keeping" engine swaps. I guess it's BL .. so Rover? K-Series? I think it could very easily take a bit of lowering and larger steels (14 or 15") ,.. bit of dish to them would be good.. or some spacers to get them out a bit more and fill those arches. I love the grill on it.
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Its already got 14s on as standard if i remember right. An 1800 MGB engine with the 5 bearing crank is a straight swap as is the riley twin carb set up.. Not sure about any radical mods, anything done I like in keeping with the age of the car. Maybe an ital 2 litre O series engine would be a straight bolt on job? Id LOVE 5 gears though, crusing at 60 can be a pain, but I guess this will never be a fast car.
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1987 Maestro 1.6 HL perkins diesel conversion 1986 Audi 100 Avant 1800cc on LPG 1979 Allegro Series 2 special 4 door 1500cc with vynil roof. IN BITS. HERITAGE ISSUES.
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That's such a cool motor I'd love to see one like with all modern high performance running gear so it handles and goes but absolutely stock bodied. Kind of like the pro touring thing they do on muscle cars in the states. Just imagine this one low with some nice dished 17's on it, low profiles and maybe a slight tint on the glass. I'd keep the inside stock but maybe retrim in soft leather and install a very subtle stereo and some a/c.
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1962 Datsun Bluebird Estate - 1971 Datsun 510 SSS - 1976 Datsun 710 SSS - 1981 Dodge van - 1985 Nissan Cherry Europe GTi - 1988 Nissan Prairie - 1990 Hyundai Pony Pickup - 1992 Mazda MX5
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I don't know what tuning mods there would be out there for the running gear. I'm not sure, but I think its very similar to the MGB so I guess any turing parts for the B would with these old farina saloons.
Maybe I should just run and enjoy it for what it is, an original slightly tatty noisy heavy old plodding fun bus.
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1987 Maestro 1.6 HL perkins diesel conversion 1986 Audi 100 Avant 1800cc on LPG 1979 Allegro Series 2 special 4 door 1500cc with vynil roof. IN BITS. HERITAGE ISSUES.
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I don't know what tuning mods there would be out there for the running gear. I'm not sure, but I think its very similar to the MGB so I guess any turing parts for the B would with these old farina saloons. Maybe I should just run and enjoy it for what it is, an original slightly tatty noisy heavy old plodding fun bus. There's probably not a lot without getting into major surgery. MGB engine and brakes would be fairly simple I'd guess. I'd be just as happy cruising it around as is
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1962 Datsun Bluebird Estate - 1971 Datsun 510 SSS - 1976 Datsun 710 SSS - 1981 Dodge van - 1985 Nissan Cherry Europe GTi - 1988 Nissan Prairie - 1990 Hyundai Pony Pickup - 1992 Mazda MX5
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oh yeah, another reason for not modding too much in the power department- drum brakes all round, no servo
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1987 Maestro 1.6 HL perkins diesel conversion 1986 Audi 100 Avant 1800cc on LPG 1979 Allegro Series 2 special 4 door 1500cc with vynil roof. IN BITS. HERITAGE ISSUES.
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Seth
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I guess I've kinda got to respond to this haven't I Wheels are 4 x 4.5" and 15" TR6 wheels are bolt ons. Same stud pattern as MGB & Stag. That stud pattern also opens up options of a lot of the J stuff too! Easiest engine upgrade is 1800 MGB though it is a little more involved than just bolting it on unless you find an early 3 bearing 1800. MGB motor can eb tuned to around 120hp with out spending too much but a newer engine might make more sense if you wanted more power. I have seen photos of one with a Montego Diesel engine in so that would imply that other later Rover engines would go in without too much difficulty. The drums are pretty good and I have heard that just adding a remote servo can improve them quite a bit unless you are circuit racing or driving down mountains regularly. MGB discs can be adapted to fit and I'll be doing it with mine soon and while it isn't directly bolt on stuff there's not too much invovled. No ones ever written it down though so I'll be trying to put that right! Finally as a plug, if you're planning on keeping the car any length of time can I suggest you join the Cambridge-Oxford OC. Its a great forward thinking club and there's always loads of spares advertised in the magazine. If you need anything at the moment then there's two main specialists, Earlpart near Derby and NTG in Ipswich. Many service parts are common with the MG's though - I bought a spin on filter conversion from Moss as they were doing them cheap a while ago. Oh, a pic of mine ;D
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Follow your dreams or you might as well be a vegetable.
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My that is one gorgeous car. I'm gonna go against the grain here and say that you just have to keep it as is. Some decent wheels maybe but other than that, I just think that with such cars, less is more!
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Gotta agree with Seth - my A60 truck's running a 3 bearing MGB engine with an unknown hopped-up cam, mildly reworked head, very light flywheel, electronic ignition and twin choke downdraft Webber conversion, all hooked up to the original 'crash-first' 4-on-the-tree. Oh, and the original very narrow drums! Goes very well, stops eventually! That'll be getting TR6 wheels and an MGB disc conversion (only the uprights, with an aftermarket 'huge disc and caliper' conversion), and maybe lowered further on coilovers... Dale
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mmm, gorg... altho i preferred the one we had (stolen) in off-white bleuch with slight patina hehe... keep as is but slammmmmmm
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I'm glad I'm getting a positive response from the forum and people like my old farina . Lots of good ideas! I think, for the time being atleast id like to keep it fairly original. Can an overdrive MGB gearbox be made to fit? I'm hoping to use it as a wedding car in December, but at the minute its no where near good enough. Ill start tarting it up but if its not done in time ill have to hire a Daimler limo (maybe i can have it slammed by the limo firm:)) Ive got the farina brocure from earlpart, although the first time I went there for parts for my MK2 2.5PI I was quickly ushered out after seeing the old cambridges in the yard and remarking "I used to race those" The cup of tea I had been promised quickly vanished too. I'm thinking of joining the COOC as theres a club sticker on the windscreen and they may know some of the cars history, Ive been on the forum a few times but its prety dead in there (understatement of the century) Ive got a set of refurbed stag alloys with new fat tyres that I may try out, just to see how they look, but I'm imagining they must look pretty cack. Very nice car BTW Seth. It looks like a 57 Chevy (or similar!) Do the Oxford/Cambridge purists have much to say about it?
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Last Edit: Aug 9, 2006 23:50:33 GMT by Lankytim
1987 Maestro 1.6 HL perkins diesel conversion 1986 Audi 100 Avant 1800cc on LPG 1979 Allegro Series 2 special 4 door 1500cc with vynil roof. IN BITS. HERITAGE ISSUES.
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Hee I'm sure theres a couple of forums/places where seths motor wouldn't be welcomed with open arms But to me,thats the business,I love it long time ;D
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Almera GTI = ugly bird who turns out to be great in the sack = Win
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Hee I'm sure theres a couple of forums/places where seths motor wouldn't be welcomed with open arms But to me,thats the business,I love it long time ;D Some people look down the end of their nose at you if you have the incorrect battery or tyres. "not as Morris intended" Oxfords and Cambridges are now very very old. Isnt the fact that it still exists and is being enjoyed enough? Thats got to be the most important thing.
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1987 Maestro 1.6 HL perkins diesel conversion 1986 Audi 100 Avant 1800cc on LPG 1979 Allegro Series 2 special 4 door 1500cc with vynil roof. IN BITS. HERITAGE ISSUES.
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lankytim you are so right,'reckon thats what makes THIS forum so cool ;D
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Almera GTI = ugly bird who turns out to be great in the sack = Win
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there very loosely based around the minor mechanics, as was the marina.. and most other bl stuff! A popular minor mod is (or was) to put the fiat twink in, with a bit of bellhousing modding, brake upgrades marina/mgb ital etc i have an old magazine with an article by the beardmore brothers i think somewhere about think its a street machine from the 80's! a period fast farina could be powered by an mga motor which is a reworked b series. (twin cam setup i think?) but these are probarbly quite rare! there is a telescopic rear shock kit for the mgb, that looks like it will go straight on an oxford, also there are companies that recon the old lever arm type armstrong/ aftermarket units if you get stuck with anything, wiring, grease nipple locations etc i have a oxford haynes manual, with all that stuff in! (get a grease gun if you don't allready have one! theres nipples everywhere!)
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Seth
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I'm glad I'm getting a positive response from the forum and people like my old farina . Lots of good ideas! I think, for the time being atleast id like to keep it fairly original. Can an overdrive MGB gearbox be made to fit? I'm hoping to use it as a wedding car in December, but at the minute its no where near good enough. Ill start tarting it up but if its not done in time ill have to hire a Daimler limo (maybe i can have it slammed by the limo firm:)) Ive got the farina brocure from earlpart, although the first time I went there for parts for my MK2 2.5PI I was quickly ushered out after seeing the old cambridges in the yard and remarking "I used to race those" The cup of tea I had been promised quickly vanished too. I'm thinking of joining the COOC as theres a club sticker on the windscreen and they may know some of the cars history, Ive been on the forum a few times but its prety dead in there (understatement of the century) Ive got a set of refurbed stag alloys with new fat tyres that I may try out, just to see how they look, but I'm imagining they must look pretty cack. Very nice car BTW Seth. It looks like a 57 Chevy (or similar!) Do the Oxford/Cambridge purists have much to say about it? You'll find the CO-OC very welcoming. Its reckoned that approximatly half the membership has at some time had a connection with banger racing. Some of the best cars in the club belong to current / ex racers. Oh, and I'm the club "Officer for Modified Cars" too That photo was taken at a shoot for a feature on modified Farinas for Classics magazine a couple of years ago. Of course there are some originality freaks as you get anywhere but as usual they're not worht worrying about. Its a shame about the reception you got at Earlpart. The B overdrive box can be made to fit but ideally you need a 3 synchro one from an early car as that will bolt straight up. Prop would obviously need work and I'm not 100% sure whether the gear shift is in the same place. An alternative for better motorway cruising is the 3.9 diff out of an early (pre 67) MGB roadster. They aren't necesserily cheap though as they are obviously not that common. Just remembered that Scimitars are also the same stud pattern if you fancy some slot-mag action
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Last Edit: Aug 10, 2006 9:00:11 GMT by Seth
Follow your dreams or you might as well be a vegetable.
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Hi Silvermachine, how much would you want for the oxford manual? I had read theres alot of grease nipples on the thing, last time I was at my parents my dad dug out an old grease gun he used to use on his Ital van although if I'm honest I don't know how to use it! I havent even got a set of feeler gauges but my mussus grandad says he has a set stashed away.
Owning a "mature" car is alot more involved than a modern machine where all you have to do is add petrol and change the oil once in a while. Great fun though.
Saying about banger drivers, I bought this car from a banger driver, who had bought it from another driver with a blown engine. It was one of those cars that was "too good to race" so he dropped a low mileage engine and box in and flogged it to me. Ive had nothing but support from my banger racing chums, and lots of offers of parts and advice.
I'm going onto the COOC website now so find out how to join.. looks like its a must do for any farina owner.
Just had a thought... I'm sure I remember someone telling me that some sherpa van parts fit. Is this true?
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1987 Maestro 1.6 HL perkins diesel conversion 1986 Audi 100 Avant 1800cc on LPG 1979 Allegro Series 2 special 4 door 1500cc with vynil roof. IN BITS. HERITAGE ISSUES.
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Frontline will do the Rear suspension mods to indepentant suspension. Its a simple unbolt bolt on job, But very very expensive. I have loads of spares for a GT so let me know and I should be able to dig em out for you.
The Twink MGA motor is a very rare motor indeed and I would guess it will be snapped up by the MGA coupe owners as that was the model it was for. The Twink MG motor is also very expensive to tune, just like the B series, however I have done a bit with sucess.
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Last Edit: Aug 10, 2006 9:54:46 GMT by Nathan
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After a good poke around, ive found a rot hole the size of a tennis ball in the middle of the passenger side front floor pan above the chassis that needs sorting, but thats about it on the strucural rust side, the rest looks pretty damn good. Just general tidying really needed I think without going overboard into a concourse motor and mega £££
One problem I have come across though... The oil is grey, looks like its emulsifying a little. Ive never seen oil like this before. Its not cream cheese or anything just grey in colour, dipsticks covered in grey oil too. Maybe the head gasket is leaking just a little. On top of that the water in the rad is very rusty, even after reverse flushing the engine and rad several times, it also seems to have sludgy brown oily sh*t in it (for want of a better word)
Is it possible to have a headgasket thats partially gone, or just leaking? The original engine that was in this car had blown up, headgasket and end bearings had gone. Could the sludge in the rad be contaminating the rest of the system on the new engine? Ive got a bit of investigation work to do, the rad isnt pressurising and one of the hoses has sprung a leak. Aaaargh! Its all great fun though, lol
Does anyone know if 1.8 marina hoses can be adapted to fit my Oxford??
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1987 Maestro 1.6 HL perkins diesel conversion 1986 Audi 100 Avant 1800cc on LPG 1979 Allegro Series 2 special 4 door 1500cc with vynil roof. IN BITS. HERITAGE ISSUES.
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