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Mar 31, 2008 13:57:21 GMT
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Cant understand this tail happy reputation the sierra has suddenly gained?
They were MUCH less tail happy than all the older live axle fords ever were, as was the granny (with its IRS) which could be hussled along at much higher speeds than its size would lead people to believe cos it actually stuck to the road really well.
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Volvo back as my main squeeze, more boost and some interior goodies on the way.
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Samage
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Mar 31, 2008 14:25:40 GMT
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Mk2 Grannies FTW. My dad had one when I was a kid, a povvo spec 2.3L. Loved it. ;D
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Seth
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Mar 31, 2008 14:40:33 GMT
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Mk2 Grannies FTW. My dad had one when I was a kid, a povvo spec 2.3L. Loved it. ;D Hmm, I have vague memories of the two Mk2 Granadas my dad has as company cars for short time. Mk1 Coupe for me too please!
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Follow your dreams or you might as well be a vegetable.
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tigran
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In rust we trust. Amen.
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Granada vs Sierratigran
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Mar 31, 2008 14:59:46 GMT
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I'd have both thankyouplease.
*joins BenzBoy in the fence-sitting massive*
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1964 Rover P5 i6 1987 BMW 525e - The Rusty Streak 1992 Micra K10 2001 BMW E46 316i 2002 BMW E46 330Ci 2013 BMW F31 320d 2018 BMW G31 530d
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Mar 31, 2008 16:05:54 GMT
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as already documented, i would prefer a Mk1 or Mk2 Granada to the sierra
i love a bit of boxy heap, i find the Mk2 far more stable at speed then the Sierra, and the Granada gives more feel through the pedals and steering than the sierra
the tailhappy thing was mentioned by me, sliding along the grass verge sideways at 35ish MPH is not fun after you've watched the Sierra crash tests on utube, i ve never rolled one, but came quite close on more than one occasion
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Someone just shot the elephant in the room.
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Mar 31, 2008 16:19:09 GMT
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I voted Sierra,,, but mainly cos I like driving smaller cars. That reason only. The argument in the other thread surprised me, there's not a lot of people liking sierra, not when they could have something more 'retro' or something modern. Cossies are still big obviously with fast Ford types. Old Granada's are great cars, I'd love a mk2 4 saloon as a cruiser or drift wagon, but the one I really want can't be got at here. I'd swap a few of my cars for a kitted out one of these.
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it doesn't matter if it's a Morris Marina or a Toyota Celica - it's what you do with it that counts
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perry
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Mar 31, 2008 16:28:12 GMT
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id rather "go in harder " than "pitch and scare her"
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Mar 31, 2008 16:36:27 GMT
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Granny!!
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Granada vs SierraRobinxr4i
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Mar 31, 2008 16:38:54 GMT
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Cant understand this tail happy reputation the sierra has suddenly gained? I agree, I'm on my second Sierra and I cant say either have been particualy tail happy compared to other RWD stuff I've driven. IMO in the dry the Sierra is a fairly planted car and to get it out of shape requires some pretty reckless driving. In the wet its a different story altogether, but TBH any RWD car driven hard in wet conditions gives similar results! Some Sierra pics (not RS, XR, V8 etc)......
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Sierra - here we go again! He has an illness, it's not his fault.
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Mar 31, 2008 16:45:46 GMT
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What the hell are the last 2 Robin?
A mix between Mk1 & 2 Sarahs?
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Granada vs SierraRobinxr4i
@robinxr4i
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Mar 31, 2008 16:57:58 GMT
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What the hell are the last 2 Robin? A mix between Mk1 & 2 Sarahs? We never got 3dr mk2 in the UK but they seem fairly common in German and Norway ect! Would love to go on a road trip to europe and pick one up ;D
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Last Edit: Mar 31, 2008 16:58:23 GMT by Robinxr4i
Sierra - here we go again! He has an illness, it's not his fault.
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Zotez
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Mar 31, 2008 17:03:16 GMT
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Granada hands down, always fancied a lowered mk1 estate!
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Mar 31, 2008 21:45:42 GMT
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Well, you already know what I think, lol ;D Now, sierras and tail-happyness, here's my 2p..... Sierra IRS works really well. most of the time you feel much more planted and secure than in an older, live axle car. This means you can drive faster through corners, and not worry constantly about the back stepping out UNTIL that day you go into a familiar bend at your usual pace, and its a bit slippier than you realise. Thats when the sierra bites, and spits you sideways in a blink, and thats where its reputation comes from. When it goes, it doesnt warn you. the number of times I've recovered cars punted first into a hedge/wall/front garden bears this out. All the drivers were unaware, until it was too late to save it. Not the cars fault, imo, but I prefer a 4x4 sierra. thats like having a fuel injected mountain goat, lol
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To get a standard A40 this low, you'd have to dig a hole to put it in
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B-8-D
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down to one car!!
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Mar 31, 2008 21:56:14 GMT
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Granada hands down, always fancied a lowered mk1 estate! exactly how mine was.. brillient and prodictable in the dry could understear into a corner and add throttle to ballence it with overstear to drift perfectley... but in the dry... the same except it v'suddenly let go and whould then catch again and throw it back the other way!! apparently cossies have lower rear semi trailing arm mounts to stop this.. same as a lowered std car... i couldent say? mine was a std hight/suspension 2ldohc... great old cars though... si
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10mpg
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Granada vs Sierra10mpg
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Mar 31, 2008 22:07:04 GMT
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MK1 Granny coupe for me as a classic car, but as a daily drive give me a XR4i...
on style the Granny coupe wins hands down though
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The Internet, like all tools, if used improperly, can make a complete bo**cks of even the simplest jobs...
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Mar 31, 2008 22:07:42 GMT
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but I prefer a 4x4 sierra. thats like having a fuel injected mountain goat, lol you can still slide the 4x4's I thought the handling was a bit poo on the 4x4's until i realised you have to add more power if its not gripping which ever end lets go, once i mastered the art of not letting up on the gas i decided i really liked em, and have scared quite a few mates who suggested they wont "go round corners as fast as a scoobi" Mind you i did use one of my mk2 grannys to pull my cousins sierra up a snowy hill as mine had lsd and tall skinny tyres while his didnt and just kept going further backwards down the hill everytime he attempted to move it.
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Volvo back as my main squeeze, more boost and some interior goodies on the way.
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Mar 31, 2008 22:14:20 GMT
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Not that I'm biased but the Sierra for me.
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spacekadett
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F*cking take that Hans Brrix!!
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Mar 31, 2008 22:14:52 GMT
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Well I like'em both, but in the interest of redressing the balance voted Sierra Loved my Ghia Sapph and have always wondered about picking up a Mk2 3 door, if only for the novelty value. And my 2ps' worth, I've always found them exceptionally well planted. The few occasions of 'accidental waywardness' have had more to do with the wet, idiocy or knackered grim reaper tyres than the car itself. Strangely I've found I suffered more with the front 'washing out' in the dry, even with heavy duty bushes in the TCA's. Maybe I should have put poly ones in it
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Mechanic's rule #1... If the car works, anything left on the floor after you finished wasn't needed in the first place
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