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Hi all, hopefully this is OK to post. Have just bought my first house and finally i have a garage that has power, something I have always wanted since getting my first car at 17!
I have my old Triumph in the (single) garage, fits really well with a nice workbench and have plans to board up the roof as its quite highly pitched so can use it as a storage space after some structural reinforcement (will post pics when done)
I have a small question to ask regarding planning permission and just seeking ideas really. Basically in front of my garage I park another car which has pretty decent paintwork and I want to keep it that way if possible. The birds keep sh*tting on it as there is a heiffer of a tree the other side of it and I want to stop this by building a bit of a carport aka some timber legs holding up some corrugated plastic. Has anyone else done this or something similar? Not sure if i'll need planning permission as its technically in front of the house but is also a detached building. land registry says we do own the land our half of the garage is on as well as the parking space in front. The garage is split down the middle and the neighbour owns the other half separated by a breezeblock dividing wall.
Have sketched up a bit of a drawing of our house, garage and parking space. hopefully this conveys the idea! the garage is probably a bit further upwards than the picture shows (not straight in front of our house and in front of our parking space is a shared road. Thanks in advance for any suggestions/advice
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Last Edit: May 3, 2023 10:01:09 GMT by rerpha
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mrbig
West Midlands
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I looked at similar a few years ago and I think the issue is going to be that it's in front of the building line. That means you will need planning permission.
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1969 German Look Beetle - in progress
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Ah, thought that might be the case.
Are car covers as bad as everyone says? I've heard they can trap moisture in etc. and wreck clearcoat/lacquer etc. but not sure if just hearsay or not. Trying to weigh up the impact of a cover vs. loads of bird droppings...
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maf260
Part of things
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Can you build a cantilever canopy which attaches to the garage?
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Possibly - the walls either side of the door are brick, so could probably mount something on those. i guess you'd need some sort of triangular bracket which supports the weight in 2 areas each side.
not sure exactly if it's just the front legs that would make it require planning permission - think if it's considered an outbuilding then it will, but not sure if just a shelter that it would be considered an outbuilding..?
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Ah, thought that might be the case. Are car covers as bad as everyone says? I've heard they can trap moisture in etc. and wreck clearcoat/lacquer etc. but not sure if just hearsay or not. Trying to weigh up the impact of a cover vs. loads of bird droppings... I personally hate them. As the wind buffets them they wear through exposed edges and corners. Perhaps less of an issue with modern jellybean cars, but old cars that actually have corners to them are no good. There's planning regulations about permitted development of outbuildings. They're not terribly clearly articulated all in one place, but I know there's rules about distance to your land's borders (need to be a metre clear of a boundary). Personally, I'd probably have a chat with your neighbour and anyone who you think might be vexatious and see if they have a problem with it. If they don't, or they can be bribed with wine/beer, just build it as it's not a huge undertaking or terribly expensive. So long as there's no complaints, planning is unlikely to ever become aware of it. If they do, apply for retrospective planning permission (which they get a little more miffed about, but you can plead innocent naivety). Edit: a cantilevered awning would be dead cool though, and would help assuage your neighbour's potential fears with access in and out of their garage being obstructed by a pillar. You could either tie it down to the bottom of the wall with a triangulated beam, or tie it upwards using stainless steel cable. Depends on how your garage is constructed.
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May 18, 2023 22:44:35 GMT
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You can get folding garages, which are like a convertible roof/tent mashup.
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May 26, 2023 12:27:26 GMT
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Possibly - the walls either side of the door are brick, so could probably mount something on those. i guess you'd need some sort of triangular bracket which supports the weight in 2 areas each side. not sure exactly if it's just the front legs that would make it require planning permission - think if it's considered an outbuilding then it will, but not sure if just a shelter that it would be considered an outbuilding..? From my experience a carport (or anything) that extends past the boundary of the main house is not classed as permitted development, and you cannot build them facing the road, even if it was free-standing and not physically connected to the garage. Outbuildings can be made, as long as they are not within 1m of the boundary, and less than 50% of the size of the main building, but again, not in front of the house, unfortunately this will not be the case. As mrbig said. You'll either need planning permission, or look for an alternative solution to keeping the paintwork protected from the birds!
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May 26, 2023 12:59:46 GMT
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