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Covid does weird stuff to our bodies and minds. The last three days I have struggled to read intermittently and not watched any TV or YouTube However…… The impending attempt at an MOT with the Rezin Rockit has my crazy hat firmly back in place on my head. Now we know, 99% of what we dream is just that. Dreams. But what about the 1% ? Could it be made real? Rezin Rockit being a case in point. So would it be that crazy to wonder about marrying a Frog with Sushi ? And please, do stay with me, even if just till you looked at the pics and laughed. So: Measurements.   Remember the donor for the Rezin Rockit? Helped keep me busy for a while before becoming an overpriced Smeg appliance.   Then chop away all the excess, obviously in a sensible way, removing, reducing things like the wiring loom. A fair amount of thinking to be done. And skin that little frog, add some wasabi paste and soy sauce……. Serve up.    Now before you call the cops, mental health services and the Environmental agency, give it a think. Many ratrods out there run random mixes of parts etc. Could this be made to work, SAFELY? Go on, knock yerself out. |
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You're overthinking that.
Remove the rotten MX5 from the subframes and their connector, and fit the 2CV body over the top.
Decide how you're going to deal with the wheelbase difference.
Build a new floor/bulkhead/body mounts to join the two together.
fit the rest of the MX5 parts like we did in the Rockit.
Hope you don't need to IVA the result.
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You're overthinking that. Remove the rotten MX5 from the subframes and their connector, and fit the 2CV body over the top. Decide how you're going to deal with the wheelbase difference. Build a new floor/bulkhead/body mounts to join the two together. fit the rest of the MX5 parts like we did in the Rockit. Hope you don't need to IVA the result. IVA or BIVA os the ball breaker or is that deal breaker. Though I love the idea….. a lot. PS. Wheelbase difference to me is small enough that one can lose a bit in both front and rear arches by moving stuff about a bit. grenade is a master of patina patches. I also think it needs to be a lot more like the car you and I did not build in the Rezin Rockit Nick. More function than form. No hearers either. |
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Last Edit: Feb 8, 2023 12:06:12 GMT by grizz
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Not quite wanting to create a Ferrari hybrid. And actually like the whole patina/scrapyard look it has.  . |
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"Could this be made to work, SAFELY?"
How much is the budget ?
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Last Edit: Feb 8, 2023 13:03:44 GMT by westbay
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LowStandards
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It's gonna be an IVA whichever way you look at it
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And I've got a spare turbine you could put in the back BUWHAHAHAHAAA  |
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Tales of the Volcano Lair hereFrankenBug - Vulcan Power hereThe Frankenhealey here |
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Saw that 2 cv van body advertised in Surrey today / thought straight away for the price would be an interesting transplant project for someone then read your post / for someone with time / skill / patience and a mind set off set of normal thinking a good one to snap up quick project. I m all for the look that shows its age / faults and good points hence longer i have the Citroen C15 Oddity more that ethos grows when i look around at so much bland and painfully boring vehicles on the road today.
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Last Edit: Feb 8, 2023 15:13:59 GMT by Quasimoto
Started out with nothing and have most of it left.
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The MX-5 is like a Lotus Elan in that its two subframes can be connected and the self-supported remains could theoretically be driven, yes? And the 2CV is a separate chassis vehicle. It may just be possible to register it as a rebodied MX-5, y'know...
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Last Edit: Feb 8, 2023 16:00:27 GMT by misteralz
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Rich
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The MX-5 is like a Lotus Elan in that its two subframes can be connected and the self-supported remains could theoretically be driven, yes? And the 2CV is a separate chassis vehicle. It may just be possible to register it as a rebodied MX-5, y'know... Not quite. The chassis spine isn’t really enough to keep it rigid enough as it links the gearbox to the diff and the subframes just follow albeit floppily because they are attached to the engine and differential. |
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You only need to make up 5 inches give or take a bit. DO THIS.
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If it’s a wheelbase issue, had you considered an Ami 6? Allow me some maths to explain. You have stated that 2CV + MX5 = MX7CV. This is fine, however my counter argument to that is AMI6 + MX5 = AMIX11 which I think you’ll find not only closer resembles Roman numerals than your derivation but is approximately IX x 11 longer than 2CV chassis, where IX is a function of the length of a 2CV chassis. Therefore correct.
To conclude, they’re like a 2CV underneath but bigger and heavier and lean over way more in corners and are generally a bit more curse word. Chassis is pretty much the same but longer. Might be wider but I can’t remember.
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Love the idea
I love mx5 transplants.
But, you are throwing away the mx5 body so you are not entitled to use that identity.
You are cutting the Citroen body so you would need to IVA what you build.
It’s a nightmare if doing it legally and a nightmare if you do it and keep quiet and ride around on the 2cv v5.
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Total classic car pervert
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If it’s a wheelbase issue, had you considered an Ami 6? Allow me some maths to explain. You have stated that 2CV + MX5 = MX7CV. This is fine, however my counter argument to that is AMI6 + MX5 = AMIX11 which I think you’ll find not only closer resembles Roman numerals than your derivation but is approximately IX x 11 longer than 2CV chassis, where IX is a function of the length of a 2CV chassis. Therefore correct. To conclude, they’re like a 2CV underneath but bigger and heavier and lean over way more in corners and are generally a bit more curse word. Chassis is pretty much the same but longer. Might be wider but I can’t remember. According to the data shown, the 2CV is already longer than the MX5 which would mean making a new frame to take the MX5 subframes. As you'd have to IVA both approaches(which needn't be a nightmare if it's engineered to be tested before building it) that wouldn't be too much of a problem |
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From what I understand, building a legal car is a lot easier for you guys if you use a existing unmodified chassis. A lotus Elan +2 is less than 1.5" off the 2CV wheelbase, and they sell repro chassis' And a MX5 engine & gearbox would be great to push it down the road...  |
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Is shortening the 2CV body to suit the wheelbase of the donor MX5 a valid option?
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Rich
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From what I understand, building a legal car is a lot easier for you guys if you use a existing unmodified chassis. A lotus Elan +2 is less than 1.5" off the 2CV wheelbase, and they sell repro chassis' And a MX5 engine & gearbox would be great to push it down the road... You’d still need the Elan +2 ID though. |
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From what I understand, building a legal car is a lot easier for you guys if you use a existing unmodified chassis. A lotus Elan +2 is less than 1.5" off the 2CV wheelbase, and they sell repro chassis' That chassis needs to be correctly registered before you start the build. Which would mean buying a complete, legal Elan and cutting it up. That's a lot more costly than a £500 rotten MX5 even before you consider how much of a suitably cheap Elan will be beyond affordable help. Bear in mind that DVLA is notoriously inconsistent in how they apply their own rules. If you build in the IVA requirements from the start it isn't that bad to get a pass, as long you can get the correct specification glass. Which won't be a problem for a 2CV body. |
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Yeah, there is a problem for every solution... |
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