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Been getting busy, fiddled endlessly hoping that it was just something not adjusted right but no. As suggested by vitesseefi and jmsheahan, probably it's not the release bearing (read more about it and the symptoms just don't match). So i'm pulling the box out. First time on a vw product, its actually great the clutch is cable operated, no mess. Up on the stilts  Starter motor off, linkages undone, electrics unplugged. Don't have splined sockets for the driveshafts so just waiting on delivery.   While I wait, wanted to tick off a couple smaller jobs - the crusty heat shielding under the bonnet, some early bonnet crust and condensation in one of the headlights due to a small hole in the glass. Heat protection scraping was so satisfying, like slicing soft cheese. No idea how to get the glue off, assume there is adhesive remover, or i just pick away. Paint underneath looks lovely so I want to keep it that way.     Genuine headlamps cost a fortune so a drop of superglue and we'll see how it goes. Dried it out in the sun for the afternoon, shook out the broken glass, then added a drop and it sealed nicely.    Treated some rust under the bonnet, I'll get it sprayed eventually but this will do for now.  |
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Jun 15, 2022 10:01:02 GMT
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Contact glue often comes off when wiped with petrol, shouldn't affect modern paint, obviously needs plenty of ventilation.
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Jun 15, 2022 13:38:45 GMT
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Contact glue often comes off when wiped with petrol, shouldn't affect modern paint, obviously needs plenty of ventilation. I'll give it a try cheers |
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Jun 15, 2022 14:08:35 GMT
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Replacement sound deadening kits are available. Try the Rocco owners on fb. There used to be some at Rust Republic too but I’m not sure about stock levels atm.
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jmsheahan
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Mk2 VW Scirocco in Green 1992jmsheahan
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Jun 15, 2022 16:13:09 GMT
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Good progress. Intrigued on your findings once the box comes out.
Think 'Dreadnoughtcustoms' do quite a bit for Rocco's including bonnet sound deadening but if the paint polishes up nicely happy days!
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Jun 15, 2022 18:37:39 GMT
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Good progress. Intrigued on your findings once the box comes out. Think 'Dreadnoughtcustoms' do quite a bit for Rocco's including bonnet sound deadening but if the paint polishes up nicely happy days! They’re the buggers, I’ve not been on the Rocco bit for ages cos I don’t own one, it’s good stuff, I’ve got it on my mk1 golf |
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Jun 18, 2022 13:42:00 GMT
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Good progress. Intrigued on your findings once the box comes out. Think 'Dreadnoughtcustoms' do quite a bit for Rocco's including bonnet sound deadening but if the paint polishes up nicely happy days! They’re the buggers, I’ve not been on the Rocco bit for ages cos I don’t own one, it’s good stuff, I’ve got it on my mk1 golf Cheers guys that's a lovely looking thing, definitely planning on replacing rather than just having paint. Driveshafts both off now, and headlight back on. Speedo cable and 2 bolts and the rascal can come out for inspection. Hope it's obvious what the issue is. |
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Jul 22, 2022 18:51:51 GMT
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After literally weeks, the b***ard gearbox is off! The lower bolt that was stuck was a challenge, couldn't get enough leverage for the breaker bar until I removed the sump. Glued in right, made an almighty crack noise which felt good.   Once the sump was off (after an oil drain, looking clear which is good) I couldn't out it back on in that state. Sanded down, rust treatment, primer and high temp black paint. Then a new rubber gasket and back on it goes. Cleaned up the bolts for the sump too, and a razor blade to get rid of old paper gasket.    Next I thought I'd change the rocker cover gasket, bought a mk3 golf rubber gasket and twin thread bolts. Goes all the way around rather than having a break in it, looks like an improvement. Loads of oil leaks from old gasket visible once I got it off. Also 1 of the bolts was snapped and had been for a while based on the rust around it. Mole grips eventually got it out and replaced.      Timing belt cover has cracks so I've ordered a replacement but just put it all back together for now. Getting the gearbox off finally was an absolute pig and I bashed a finger so it looks like a blueberry. But it's off! What was the gearbox issue? Looks to me that vitesseefi wins the prize of guessing the issue (honorary mention going to jmsheahan for identifying that my clutch release bearing theory was unlikely to be right).     Very satisfying to see a visible issue so clearly.   While it's all apart I'm gonna make the most of it and clean up the bay, couple of small rust treatments and repaint a few bits. |
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Jul 22, 2022 19:39:28 GMT
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Yup, that’s broken alright. Bit of an unusual failure. Is it worn out too? Seems be an OE one too? Gearbox removal is no fun on those. Actually I’ve never done a Scirocco, but I have a Mk1 Golf, plus a couple of Mk2s and a Mk3. All GTis and all done on the drive. Didn’t enjoy doing any of them…..
Getting it back in, lined up and slipped on….. is a 😤😤🤬of a job. Recommend a second pair of hands if you can press-gang a pair….
Nick
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Last Edit: Jul 22, 2022 19:45:03 GMT by vitesseefi
1967 Triumph Vitesse convertible (old friend)
1996 Audi A6 2.5 TDI Avant (still durability testing)
1972 GT6 Mk3 (Restored after loong rest & getting the hang of being a car again)
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Jul 22, 2022 19:51:02 GMT
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Newton Commercials do bonnet sound/heat proofing all cut to shape and developed with The Rocco register's help.
Try some acetone on a rag and rub it like a 15 year old that has found his Dad's Razzle stash to remove the glue residue.
That bonnet has an unusual lack of corrosion so i'd be inclined to try and keep it that way.
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Needs a bigger hammer mate.......
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Newton Commercials do bonnet sound/heat proofing all cut to shape and developed with The Rocco register's help. Try some acetone on a rag and rub it like a 15 year old that has found his Dad's Razzle stash to remove the glue residue. That bonnet has an unusual lack of corrosion so i'd be inclined to try and keep it that way.  got me nostalgic for razzle now. Great recommendation on Newton, not seen before cheers. Looks great quality, make me want to swap out all the carpets |
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Jul 30, 2022 13:17:38 GMT
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Put down the newly acquired razzle for a few mins to make progress on clutch removal. Only get a few mins here and there at the moment so it's slow progress. Flywheel and friction plate off. Pressure plate flat surface looks brown and toasted? I'll be replacing the whole lot.      I won't have a, chance to get the flywheel skimmed, hopefully it's still a decent surface, will try and clean it up a bit. |
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Slow progress but been investigating what might have caused the clutch to snap like that. Slight leak on both the inner crank seals, replacements ready to go in. Oil coated all over the inside of flywheel.  Could the clutch have had to work harder or grip due to oil, over heating and causing plate to fail? It didn't feel like it was slipping, but felt like it was quite high on the pedal. Or the part was just rubbish or faulty.    Also been busy cleaning everything before it goes back on. I need a target date so hoping it'll be back together in time for VW Action at santa pod early Sept. |
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 Make sure you check this out as it looks like it may fail |
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Why fit in, when you were born to stand out? Dr Seuss
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Jan 29, 2023 11:02:07 GMT
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Last post in August, now it is January and... The poor girl is still on stilts with no gearbox. I got stuck and struggled to get it back on, awkward space etc. Eventually it's ready to slot in but despite the efforts of 2 people on multiple afternoons on the weekend, I failed. Then I got sick of it, lost all motivation and worked in the herald instead. Then I it got cold and I'm a soft. But this all changes in February, I'm motivated again. That b-tard gearbox is going back on if it kills me. This post is a reminder for myself, just do it ffs!    |
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Jan 29, 2023 11:11:06 GMT
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Make sure you check this out as it looks like it may fail Good point thanks! |
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zeberdee
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Jan 29, 2023 11:28:54 GMT
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They are very awkward to fit if doing it on the floor .
I really lost my sense of humour when trying to refit mine , so I feel your pain !!
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6 months or more the poor beast has sat there with me occasionally spending half a day on my back swearing then threatening to burn it to the ground and getting in a mood for another month. Finally the gearbox is on! What a f**ker. Turns out it wasn't the car being a n*b, it was my incompetence not seeing a small dust guard plate was getting caught, stopping the box from slotting on. Couple of friends helped and it was done in an afternoon. Obligatory rse shot.  New oil in, no leaks. Put water and coolant flush in to find the water leak I had with the engine when box was off and engine slanted down but nothing yet. The water is grim, glad I've done the flush.   And this is after already emptying it of coolant! Adjusted clutch cable and it works! It's a miracle! Fired up after a tense minute. Needs to be run up to temp, then dump the water and add coolant. Replace a missing engine mount nut, get the speedo cable back on (it was being irritating and the bolt threaded). Then we're back on the road! So you'll see it on here in another six months... |
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m00se
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I just found your thread,awesome car! Looks like your on the right way with it. However, looking at this picture I was a bit shocked. These tires are from 1995! They are absolutely not safe to drive anymore. Correct me if my eyes deceive me and I misread that DOT number but please check this and safe yourself a crash. Max |
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got me nostalgic for razzle now. 
