Dez
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It’s grim up north. Dez
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My thing with trees is they have to be useful if possible. Ultimately most surviving oaks were planted as a source of timber and to ‘preserve’ them kinda goes against that. I can see why some should be preserved but really we should be engaging with managed forestry rather than preserving some and felling the rest. Woodland has been managed as a resource since prehistoric times, no woodland you can see in this country is ‘natural’, and that needs to continue.
I have either 7 or 8 trees depending on where a fence goes which isn’t 100% clear until I replace it. I’d like all my trees to be useful, although only 4 out of 7/8 directly are really- walnut, 2 apples and Greengage. I also have a holly, which is good for the birds come this time of year and Christmas decorations. It’s on the wonk though due to a self-set interloper between it and a big cherry tree in my sisters garden forcing it to grow sideways. The interloper was removed and it’s slowly recovering but I really I need to ratchet strap them together for a year to pull it straight.
The other two are lilac and laburnum. the lilac is extremely old and the only demarkation of where the old barn was, as it used to grow against it. It’s now just inside my fence line so not in the way. The laburnum is sort of useful in that it blocks the view down the drive a bit, and I do like the look of it in the spring, even if it is otherwise entirely useless (and massively poisonous). The last one rhats in the questionable fence line is a massive great conifer that I was going to chop, but the small birds like goldfinches seem to love it so I’ve left it alone as it doesn’t intrude with where it is.
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misteralz
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I love a good tree as well. Sycamores, Eucalyptus, and Conifers are not good trees. We planted so many at our last place and we've done the same at our current place. Our strategy is similar to you in that we'll only plant stuff that's useful. If it's not providing cover, shelter for wildlife, fruit, or holding the soil together then it's gone and replaced with something better.
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We planted 22,000 saplings over two years from 2007 - 2009… maturing nicely now
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Ich habe kein Geld!
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We planted 22,000 saplings over two years from 2007 - 2009… maturing nicely now quick rubbish maths 916 trees a month, 229 per week, 45 per day (assuming 5 day working week) 5.7 per hour (assuming 8 hour working day!) sorry bit pointless i was just wondering Dez, fantastic work on the house there, and condolences to yourself and family. is not easy loosing parents. keep up the amazing work
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perf
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As a teenager a worked with planting spruce in Sweden. 200 in an hour.
Live in rural Sweden. A lot of trees on the property. Most birch, hazel and salix. I prefer oak and pine. 1.6 hectare.
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Plenty of trees here too but we're on a rural small holding. We've planted probably over 100 medium to large trees of various species just to feed the bees. Got a range of eucalypts that all flower at different times for that purpose and a bunch of other stuff. The eucs are all coppicing species so when they get too big we'll bowl then for firewood and they'll shoot away from the stump ready to do it all again.
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raumer
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Another vote here for trees. We've got no idea how many we've got but we are going to add to them. Need a few more fruit trees.
We have ash trees growing like weeds and getting in the way. Plus a line of willows that we think were coppiced in the past. Might start doing that again once we run out of fallen timber for the log pile (might be a good few years yet!).
Ed
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Mine: 1938 Scammell Pioneer R100, 1944 Scammell Pioneer SV2/S, 1959 Kraz 255b tractor unit, 1960 Unipower Industrial ballast tractor, 1960 88 Landrover Series 2 SWB, 1983 110 Landrover CSW
Look after: 1935 Scammell Rigid 6, 1951 Scammell Scarab, 1961 Landrover Prototype, 1985 Landrover 110
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We're fortunate to have a decent proportion of fruit trees, and very handily a schedule by previous owners Only problem being that I've very limited gardening knowledge, and anything garden related is bottom of the list at the moment. Need to do some homework on keeping them all healthy and in control Continuing to follow this tale with interest Dez, thank you for sharing and condolences on your loss
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We planted 22,000 saplings over two years from 2007 - 2009… maturing nicely now quick rubbish maths 916 trees a month, 229 per week, 45 per day (assuming 5 day working week) 5.7 per hour (assuming 8 hour working day!) Not quite, we had about 12 big planting party weekends… loads of friends, family and neighbours with plenty of food and drink.
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Ich habe kein Geld!
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That sounds like a good weekend!
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Dez
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It’s grim up north. Dez
@dez
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Good to see so much tree love. Were all a bunch of f-king hippies really. I’d like to have more space to plant an orchard or Similar, but as it stands what I have fits well enough around what I need the space for. It’s also got that ‘old farmyard’ vibe going on, of trees around the edge of the main space. Talking of that, the next step was some wanton destruction great fun careful and considered landscaping. Where the new fence had been put through both mine and my sisters side needed levelling out of various lumps and bumps that were a bit beyond a shovel and wheelbarrow. What I needed was a digger with a blade. and I needed to do a few other jobs down the bottom that will be detailed below. This was planning ahead by a long way, but doing so saved me double or triple which I’ll explain as I go. After scraping my sisters drive flat and levelling some old raised beds, I move round to mine and I started at the top and removed the crest from the middle of the drive and pushed it back out into the divots. As much as I like that ‘worn in’ look of an old track, I was scraping with cars of mine I don’t even consider to be low, so it had to be levelled out a bit. The central area was fairly flat, it only needed minor moving around of dirt to fill in a few holes and level things up. It was packed down level again by driving the transit back and forth over it a lot. The employees ‘helping’ Next job was this massive sycamore root ball in the back corner. It ended up so deep to remove it I ran out of reach on the digger boom! It took a good while but I got it out and backfilled. The reason it needed to come out was so I could grade and level this area. This whole corner was dug out between 12-18” deep and levelled off, for a 40ft by 18ft area. This was as big as I could comfortably put in the area where the old sheds were, my constraints being the walnut tree at one end and the apple tree at the other. This produced quite a lot of spoil. Which was spread across the whole lower yard area to level it, originally it had a high spot that would be straight in front of you here that I skimmed off a little, and the left and side and the back behind the tree dropped away quite a bit. Now it’s a lot flatter. You can see here where I pushed it back past the tree then drove the transit over it a lot again to pack it all down. There was still a bit of rake and shovel work to finish it totally due to tight space under the tree, but the worst of it was sorted. This leaves me with the makings of a large base in this corner, and a considerably flatter oversite. I was getting massively ahead of myself here, but 3 day digger hire isn’t much more than 1 day, and it gave me somewhere to lose a LOT of rubble as hardcore, saving me massively on waste disposal when it came to the house works. And realistically if I didn’t do this putting right before I started moving things here it would never get done and I’d always regret it. The last job was to meet one of the mrs. criteria for moving here. Back in Suffolk we had a pond that she loved because of the wildlife it attracted. She wanted one here, and since I had a digger at my disposal I picked a sensible place and dug her one twice the size. Still not huge by any means but enough to fill the space available and still be manageable. As long as it attracts frogs and dragonfly’s etc. it’s done it’s job. My parents came round to check on the destruction improvements. This corner worked well as it was partially under the holly tree, and I managed to keep a few of the established shrubs that were here. Note the pile of cobbles against the fence too- you dig them up everywhere here, but at quite a depth- about a foot down. I do wonder if the whole farmyard has them, just under a huge buildup of ground level over the years. And that was that for that little session. It’s almost 3 years to the day since I did this, nov 2020.
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Last Edit: Dec 16, 2023 22:27:25 GMT by Dez
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jamesd1972
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It’s grim up north. jamesd1972
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Nov 10, 2023 10:23:18 GMT
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Nice, coming on well - nice old house with a good yard / garden and outbuildings, making the dream happen ! We had to clear over 100 trees from here to make the place work as a space and as importantly remove 'vengeful' conifer hedges planted to block neighbours views. Some of the trees were nice but just in the wrong place (too close to stuff, blocking views old enough to fall down etc.). What we have done is to then plant a lot of stuff to create better hedgerows and plant some feature trees where they will work. All the wood was chopped and stacked for firewood as well, so managing and using the space. One interesting thing we were told is that Walnut trees are often planted in old livestock fields as they are good shade with anti fly properties apparently. Keep the updates coming, great to see what you are up too and the thought processes behind it all, thanks for sharing. James
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Dec 16, 2023 21:56:34 GMT
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its amazing how much better a space can look once you remove a lot of unwanted 'stuff' and cut the grass.
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Dez
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And I won't sit down. And I won't shut up. And most of all I will not grow up.
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It’s grim up north. Dez
@dez
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The next time I headed north it involved a very large van. With our new intent to move, I swapped the kit-chens over. The shaker/chalon style unit id had made by a very skilled carpenter friend to go in and sort of match an original Georgian free standing unit I’d acquired just so happened to measure up favourably for the northern house, so we were keeping it and the b&q special could go in the Suffolk house. So that’s where it went. Also this huge oak topped workbench id blagged for free That had been living in our utility room. And this rather large wood burner id bought. Which was duly installed and piped up. This actually went in before the central heating did so was the first heat through the place for a couple of years. No1 dog approved. I also started grabbing some size and era appropriate furniture. I scored this nice Georgian pine wardrobe locally, much more appropriate than the high Victorian mahogany we had in the other house, and more importantly it fitted with the pitched roof (only just though!) We have struggled with other pieces tbh, the spaces we have are not compatible with later Victorian/Edwardian standardised sizes, we needs chest of drawers that are a few inches narrower than normal sizes and it’s a bit of a ballache finding good antique pieces. The inclement weather led to me getting the van a bit stuck, rwd sprinters can’t deal with wet grass let alone a bit of mud. Luckily there’s a local council layby not far away where you can go shovel some road planings out of the ditches round the edge where they’ve pushed them with the digger, so that dealt with the muddyness.
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Last Edit: Jan 6, 2024 21:57:10 GMT by Dez
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Dez
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It’s grim up north. Dez
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Tbh I’m at the stage with this thread where I’m struggling to remember how/when things happened. This period was S.T.R.E.S.S. Sorting everything out with a diminishing timescale, and I was spending most of my time loading, unloading, or driving a van. I’d cleared out the garage as much as possible, so I could take a bit of stuff up I was definitely keeping to go in there. The priority was emptying the Suffolk house though, as I think we’d sold it by this point, or at least knew who was buying it even if it wasnt finalised. But the big news was this- 7 radiators and a combi boiler later, we had a big tick next to the central heating requirement. The work wasnt to my standard(more about that later), I’ve already redone some of it and more will get done over time, but that was kinda always the plan as I wasn’t springing for proper cast iron rads at this point. They will be added in room by room at a later date as the cosmetic state of each room requires it. It cost something like 3.5k to get this in and working, it was over 5 with the fancy rads. Me standing over them and/or me doing the cutting and lifting lead to a minimum of floorboard damage though which was my major concern give the entire house is plumbed under the boards as it’s the only way of hiding stuff. The system works adequately and keeps the house warm which keeps the mrs happy. After some arguing I got them to relocate and sign off all the gas piping as aprt of the original quote, in return for them not having to run the hot water through from the bathroom to the kitchen. Given the state of their pipework layout and soldering I saw this as a good deal 😉, the gas pipe got routed under the floor as part of this with a place for me to tee into it to drop a pipe down the kitchen wall for the cooker. Their ‘core’ work on the boiler and pipework is pretty much all hidden, and I can tidy up any radiator related stuff one by one.
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Last Edit: Jan 6, 2024 22:20:21 GMT by Dez
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Continuing to enjoy your write up of it all. I can relate to the frustrations of qualified people doing a less than adequate job in areas where you're legally bound to employ them. Boiler and Windows were the only jobs outsourced here and both were poorly done.
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what gets me is the guy who fits it often isn't qualified/ registered either, some other person signs it off, if your lucky he comes round and has a look!
I just do windows myself, fitting them well and avoiding thermal bridges needs care and some planning, most of the fitters just seem to want to do it in the quickest possible way.
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Last Edit: Jan 10, 2024 10:39:45 GMT by kevins
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Dez
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And I won't sit down. And I won't shut up. And most of all I will not grow up.
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It’s grim up north. Dez
@dez
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Feb 10, 2024 17:34:40 GMT
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If I had time, each time I went up with a van load I tried to get a job done. Whilst they were fitting the central heating I stripped the wall ‘panelling’ in the front room. I think I’d already pulled it off the wall they’d be putting the rad on, but whilst I was keeping an eye on them I did rest. It was hardboard nailed to tile lats nailed to the wall with a few good coats of gloss on top of that, so was wetter than an otters pocket behind it. Out of sight, out of mind… The damp tideline can be evidenced here. Thompson was my grandads surname, so it’s fair to assume this was done with leftovers from the renovation of their house in 1971. The heating being put in highlighted that the floorboards in the little back bedroom (that we intended to make into an upstairs bathroom) were a bit sh1te. Only 5/8” thick and very spongey with age, they wouldn’t take the weight of a bath when point loaded on its feet. Luckily I had a stash of 7/8” skinny boards I’d rescued from somewhere I can’t remember for doing repairs at the old house, and there was just enough to relay the whole room. Evidence that these joists aren’t on their first life- I found treasure when I had the floor up. A load of old pictures, negatives, letters and coins. I don’t know who the people in the pics are and I think anyone that would is now dead. I have a suspicion that one of them is Jack, Harold’s father. One letter was to Harold inviting him to an institute of locomotive engineers lecture. This will (eventually) make a nice little bathroom though, although it’s a tiny room it has a nice feel to it.
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Dez
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And I won't sit down. And I won't shut up. And most of all I will not grow up.
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Club RR Member Number: 34
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It’s grim up north. Dez
@dez
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Feb 10, 2024 18:03:36 GMT
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Dez
Club Retro Rides Member
And I won't sit down. And I won't shut up. And most of all I will not grow up.
Posts: 11,790
Club RR Member Number: 34
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It’s grim up north. Dez
@dez
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Feb 13, 2024 19:31:20 GMT
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Last Edit: Feb 13, 2024 19:33:15 GMT by Dez
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