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Jun 11, 2021 14:09:00 GMT
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I bought this in July of 2020 to tide me over while the lockdown was in place. It was in Bristol or something like that, so I drove it the 200 odd miles back home up the M6. These have a top speed of about 70mph, and the seller didn't tell me the transfer box was grinding it's cogs off, the prop shaft had more play than not, and the experience was terrifying. In fact he wouldn't meet at home, but at the railway station car park, and refused a lift back home, disappearing at I backed out of the parking spot. He had also loaded up the back with five tyres with wheels, ready to burst out of the back door over the first bump. The body looked OK, but I just wanted one of these, they have always appealled so much to me - a little Kei car with a 1000cc engine and under 1000kg. I hadn't reckoned on how rough they are (or this one) to drive. They feel light, but for every mile travelling, you travel up and down half that distance. Obviously on 40 year old suspension and bushes, any deviation in the road or the force from a passing HGV's turbulence sent me on an angle into the next lane, and I spent about four hours constantly correcting the steering while doing 50+ mph with a grinding from every angle of the little 4x4. Someone had painted it black, previous owner had attempted to remove it in some places with sandpaper, and given up. It looked a state but was in reasonable condition overall, and was definitely a good base for something nice.
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Last Edit: Jun 21, 2021 14:52:48 GMT by DavidB
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Jun 11, 2021 14:12:10 GMT
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My first job obviously was to start on cleaning the interior, as it was filthy - the steering wheel had many years of handgunk on it, and on video chat with my girlfriend on the way home, she noticed the dirt on these. I think that's about 0.01% of the work this car would need, and that was the easiest job of the lot. considering I bought this in July, and was expecting a couple of months of work, and it's now a year later, that's probably evidence this was hiding a lot of disappointments.
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Last Edit: Jun 11, 2021 14:12:29 GMT by DavidB
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Jun 11, 2021 14:17:43 GMT
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The first thing to sort was the grinding transfer box. This was knackered internally, but was somehow working - I have no idea how these work anyway, so it needed to be replaced. At this point I had no garage or a place to work on this, so all jobs were undertaken on shared parking outside of my apartment in full view of about 20 of my neighbours. Here's the interior - the car was originally yellow. Someone got the One Life Live It bug and did the matte black brushed on. It's very, very basic. Also, the doors were rotten on the bottoms. Here's my new transfer box! I was told on another forum this 413 TB would fit! It didn't fit! The beginning of many, many mistakes over the space of a year!
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Jun 11, 2021 14:21:11 GMT
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There's a pretty good market of stuff for these that you can bolt on, and a lot of 'NOS' Maruti parts you can get delivered in a week from India. They are branded Suzuki Maruti, but the quality isn't that good. I went for a Facebook Marketplace bull bars because they were cheap. I then decided to rent out a nice, modern garage that was airy, light and not leaking: This would be it's home for the next year while I started doing irreversable things to it that made me wince.
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Jun 11, 2021 14:27:46 GMT
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My plan for the car was to clean the body up, do a bit of welding and paint it with Rustoleum and rollers. I had read online what a miracle this stuff is, it goes on easy, sets hard and looks great (see later post though). I set about removing that emulsion paint - it was soft so could not be sanded, and chemical paint stripper didn't work, so I had to use a flat blade. One of the owners had sprayed black spots on it. I don't know what with because these spots could not be removed with paint stripper, sanding or blade. Even before welding it up I just couldn't help myself and went crazy with the rollers! Looks good ey? I was filled with confidence at how good this was going to look. It's light grey and the interior is a darker gray, sprayed with Aldi metal paint aerosols. I was noticing a bit of quality problems though with amazing Rustoleum applied with amazing rollers. I could NOT get the paint flat. I didn't want people asking if I painted this with a brush and some Dulux so was starting to have doubts over whether I wanted to continue after I had spent a few weeks getting covered in ÂŁ40 Rustoleum and going through rollers as they couldn't handle the turps I was supposed to mix it with in random quantities as specified by Rustoleum experts on the web.
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Jun 11, 2021 14:30:42 GMT
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So I turned my attention to the body metal to take my mind of the terrible paint job. There was a lot of rust, but a lot of repairs over rust. The rear arches were plated over the rust with 2mm flat, bent metal. I hoped this wasn't the case, and that someone had cut it all out properly and welded new stuff onto clean stuff, but that was not the case as usual. Here's what's hiding behind an adhesive headlining for 40 years. There's pitting here and there, and one spot has gone right through to the other side. A death sentence for a roof. Unfortunately, there is more to come for the roof, further down.
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Last Edit: Jun 21, 2021 14:55:15 GMT by DavidB
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Jun 11, 2021 14:35:21 GMT
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Jun 15, 2021 11:23:35 GMT
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I replaced all the outer arches (inner arches and plenny more welding to come): I ran out of places to burn myself on my hands/arms so I set about taking the engine out. At this point, the chassis and body were going to remain as one, with no intention of cleaning up here. I never, ever intended to spend this much time on the car. There is so much work done between these posts, but I don't think it's that interesting. While the engine was out, I cleaned up and sprayed the engine bay Nice 'n' clean, but I'm afraid it was with 'Home Bargains' ÂŁ1.99 gloss white rattle can. It will do for now! The rear corners of the car were hanging, and it just felt like a non-stop discovery of more rust and they weren't going to weld themselves so I set at it. Also, I forgot about the inner arches on the back. This was the biggest job on the car (apart from the driver/passenger floors), and was just horrible. I broke my welder about three times (gas bottle kept falling over and snapping the regulator off the top and the torch eventually just broke into bits), and felt like it was never going to end. Doing these is rank really as you're constantly working in some kind of symmetry thing trying to make them look identical (I didn't), and there was a hole in the corner for the fuel pipe to go through. How I got everything lined up I never know, I'm an amateur welder and my fabrication skills are even worse. Anything unpleasant looking - that's what angle grinders are for, and there's also seam sealer. As long as it's completely solid and looked OK, I didn't care.
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Last Edit: Jun 15, 2021 11:25:58 GMT by DavidB
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Jun 15, 2021 11:29:07 GMT
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I purchased a complete G13B 16v from a Swift GTi. This is a beast of an engine with 103bhp from 1.3. They -fit all SJ's-. Apart from early SJ410s, which is what I have. No amount of fanangling would get this to fit without cutting both chassis mounts out and making new ones and cutting the gearbox tunnel and just making a mess. I deliberated for a bit and then decided to just put the original 1.0 engine back in! Unfortunately, I had just sold the 1.0 engine on the belief the 1.3 was the way forward, which it wasn't.
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tom13
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Jun 15, 2021 11:34:47 GMT
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You have done a great job here. I think the more and more you do on a car as well the more you bond and fall in love with it.
Anyway cool thread keep it updated.
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Jun 15, 2021 11:35:20 GMT
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It was winter 2020 by now, and having a nice, light, dry, heated garage is great but I just didn't want to spend every night down there in welding so progress was slow, but I did get a lot done. I went insane and cut the floors out. These had been plated over existing rust with 2mm thick steel, hammered into place. It was probably done a few years ago and was rotten already. I know this is meant to have grooves in, I didn't care too much with leaving it flat then, I'm not bothered now either. It's double skinned at the front, I'm glad I spent time shaping everything and it lined up first go: Also seat frames had splits/cracks in. Previous owner had bodged some kind of mounts in using whatever metal he had lying round. I cut all of it out, and got it looking as close to standard as possible. At least the seats sit properly now. I was sick of looking at yellow by now.
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Jun 15, 2021 11:39:47 GMT
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The next part was removing that terrible Rustoleum - do not use Rustoleum and paint rollers everyone. You will spend twice the amount of time removing it over actually painting it. Too soft to sand I had to take it off with a blade and eventually just a wire brush in an angle grinder. Horrible. Oh, if you paint over Rustoleum with anything other than enamel, it'll react. I spent some time rebulding brakes, axles and suspension, removing rust and spraying them a nice colour. This was a waste of time really as I took everything apart and rebuilt them again, but it was nice to look at: Shortly after this, I got sick of looking at it and wanted to driver it, so I just covered the thing in grey primer, got the original wheels refurbed and with new tyres, put everything back together and then put it back on the road. New suspension and engine felt like a different car! No joke really, such a good fun thing to hurl around corners, I miss it already.
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Last Edit: Jun 15, 2021 14:58:30 GMT by DavidB
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Jun 15, 2021 11:48:09 GMT
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Jun 15, 2021 11:52:55 GMT
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Last Edit: Jun 15, 2021 11:53:37 GMT by DavidB
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Jun 15, 2021 11:56:37 GMT
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Last Edit: Jun 15, 2021 12:24:15 GMT by DavidB
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Jun 15, 2021 12:06:42 GMT
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Oh Suzuki, how you hide corrosion so well. The roof is going to need repairing I think. This is on both sides, so I'm just going to cut both out and weld a complete strip of metal in. Another bugbear of this body was a dent on the front passenger side roof. This leaves a gap of around 0.5cm around the door and you could bent the door in and not be able to close the window, or just have the rain/wind come on. This gives me an excuse to unstitch this area and pull it out. This is the last of the rust now, I can't imagine any more hiding that I can't see now. Also, my neighbour who builds Land Rover Defenders and whatnot cleaned and painted my bumpers. Have taken these home to store as they'll only get damaged in the garage. Hurrah!
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Jun 15, 2021 12:17:55 GMT
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The inspiration for this is this Choro-Q car: And this Suzuki Supercarry, which looks fantastic. also in Audi Nardo Grey. I know everyone is doing their cars in this colour ATM. I'm heading on getting the steel wheels banded an inch or and inch and a half and lowered on blocks one or two inches. I have not decided yet, but I really don't want a towering thing on 33" wheels that is horrible to drive.
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Jun 15, 2021 16:34:41 GMT
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I have nothing to add, but pulling my jaw off the floor.
Incredibly well done.
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Chris™
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Great to see another SJ getting some love, as you have found, they do enjoy rusting in their spare time... As you know, you have an early 'skinny prop' SJ410 which has a slightly different driveline than the later ones and SJ413s. Wouldn't be too bad to put the Swift GTI engine in, while it's apart you could swap over to the later drivetrain, as you mention it would involve a bit of cutting and welding for new engine mounts at least. I've always liked the metal dash in the early ones, yours seems to have a later steering wheel fitted to it. I'm sure I have an early steering wheel stashed away somewhere if you're interested? Keep going though, it'll be worth it in the end, they're such fun little things
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Last Edit: Jun 16, 2021 7:04:50 GMT by Chris™
1989 Volvo 340 1986 Suzuki SJ413 2000 BMW 318ti 2006 Lexus IS250
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lord13
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Wow mate...there's some hurt going on there with that, but glad you seem to be getting on top of it, a lot of people would have just stuck it back on ebay and be done with it. I know what you're saying with the roller/rustoleum business, it can be a royal pain to get anywhere near a decent finish. I've tried many paints and many techniques in the interest of cheapness, I've actually had the best results with coach paint, or even a thick cheap gloss, but you must make sure you have damn good brushes, nice and soft and of varying sizes for different areas. I always use two brushes for each area, one to put the paint on and another I keep dry to 'lay' it off ( I think that's the right term, you kinda dry brush very lightly in one direction ... something like that anyway). Also rattle cans can give excellent results if the prep is done right. Keep up the good work
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