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Great stuff! Extra cool points if you put another one in the front. What engine is it?
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Oh yeah, bookmarked for sure!!
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We put the beer down before we started to talk about the extra engine up front. Cause it would have gone right in on the same structure as is being fabricated for the front. Scary.
Except for track width, this would have been dead easy to put up front. The plan is bespoke axle shafts so as to tuck the tires under the wings as much as possible.
Bone stock engine out of a 1999 Honda Civic, Nothing fancy there as it will get the job done well enough.
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ovimor
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Hmm.... Should be a 4door  *let the Heat Out... Ha Ha I'm on it! OVIMOR |
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Knowledge is to know a Tomato is a 'fruit' - Wisdom, on the other hand, is knowing not to put it in a 'fruit salad'!
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Didn't even start to read - just bookmarked right away.
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retrolegends
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Epic start to a thread….
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1974 Hillman Avenger 1500DL1992 Volvo 240SE1975 Datsun Cherry 100a flying custard1965 Hillman SuperMinx Rock N Roller1974 Austin Allegrat Mk1 1.3SDL1980 Austin Allegro Mk3 1.3L1982 Austin Allegro Mk3 on banded steels2003 Saab 9-3 Convertible 220bhp TurboNutter1966 Morris Minor 1000 (Doris) 2019 Abarth 595C Turismo (not retro but awesome fun) www.facebook.com/DatsunCherry100a |
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Jun 10, 2021 18:56:46 GMT
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Last Edit: Jun 10, 2021 19:00:20 GMT by legend
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Jun 10, 2021 19:18:27 GMT
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take a look at the one they are doing at retropower, they have done a lovely job of widening the wings.
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jonomisfit
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You could always do what John beard more did and slit the car down the centre and add the width in there.
His space frame minor is a work of art. Well worth a search if you haven't seen it. Beardmorebros
He used to be on here, but not sure I've seen his name in a long time.
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Jun 11, 2021 11:15:23 GMT
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Last Edit: Jun 11, 2021 11:18:06 GMT by legend
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Jun 11, 2021 13:06:46 GMT
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God no, please leave the original wings on it unless you're building a race car.
Sleeper for the win.
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Jun 11, 2021 13:11:45 GMT
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they can look superb if carefully widened, stock they look too spindly
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Jun 11, 2021 14:53:58 GMT
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Anything will look spindly with 3.5" wheels. Get some wide tyres under it, it'll look great.
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Jun 11, 2021 16:49:49 GMT
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Jun 11, 2021 19:05:06 GMT
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Believe it or not, this is going to be a relatively inexpensive build. Like between 5 and 10K Cnd $$$. So nothing too fancy like tube frame.
Thought about widening, but that took me straight to a Miata chassis swap, but then I have done that one already no?
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Jun 11, 2021 21:08:03 GMT
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Are the rear wishbones/uprights Honda Civic also?
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Jun 11, 2021 23:24:26 GMT
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Yup! The beauty of the Honda stuff is that it is dirt cheap. The only clever thing will be bespoke axles length to minimize the track as much as possible. Company by the name of Dutchman does reasonable price on such work. dutchmanaxles.com/ |
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Jul 29, 2021 16:32:49 GMT
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Lest anyone think we have been sidetracked. We are moving ahead again. These kind of projects take some head scratching, and sometimes the way to the end is not evident until you take a step in SOME direction so that you can see the next step from there. In this case, we wanted to see how to fabricate the Honda suspension on to the square tube frame that we have settled on. Rather than tack-weld a bunch of fabricated brackets, these plates were plasma cut by the owner and he just dropped them off .  This allows for the lower A-arms to be located on the frame rails with some degree of solidity and precision, yet be movable and removable as the design develops  With the lowers firmly located, attention can move to how the upper a-arm is going to be located. What became evident by getting this far, was that we could expand on the square-hole-in-a-plate technique and add the mounts for the upper a-arm. So ut comes the lumber template (cause everyone doing cardboard) and we take another step forward. Hopefully.  That should work. Will get the wood drawn up as a drawing and transfer to plate. May or may not make one big plate to join the two sides in bulkhead fashion, or maybe just a strut tower bar. To be decided. What has been decided is that this will be built as a Kart and the body added at the end. In order to start welding the cart together, need to pick a track width.  The plan, (subject to change as always) is to use the Morris rack as the determining factor to set the track. If the rails are spread apart such that the rack inner pivot points align with the inner pivots on the lower a-arm, then bumpsteer should be manageable. Will pause at that point and see if that actually works and adjust as needed. At the rear, the decision to be made is if the same suspension components will be used at all 4 corners or if the Macpherson suspension from a newer Honda will be easier to package. There is a donor waiting to donate the later suspension, so stand by. |
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Jul 29, 2021 19:06:54 GMT
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Some good stuff going on there. A suggestion for the wooden bit, as it is turning into a bigger bracket, would it be worth making it thinner with an edge to stiffen it and a thicker bit round the bolt holes. Pic will explain it better. Keep up the good work.  |
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