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Jun 29, 2023 11:02:55 GMT
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The fact that ,instead of making one feel like someone had just poured lemon juice ,and salt, into ones eyes , as per the effect of most BL body shapes , it makes my eyes feel like they have been bathed in optrex , and then soothed with a soft cotton wool pad , and a silk kerchief, by a balinese sarong wearing dancing girl . makes it infinitely superior . I love it, thank you |
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Jun 29, 2023 21:41:49 GMT
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looks like a production car John . That's very kind of you but it probably isn't as good as a BL product on a bad day! It moves though 😀 |
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1967 Triumph Vitesse convertible (old friend)
1996 Audi A6 2.5 TDI Avant (still durability testing)
1972 GT6 Mk3 (Restored after loong rest & getting the hang of being a car again)
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That's very kind of you but it probably isn't as good as a BL product on a bad day! It moves though 😀 We're agreed on that which definitely is a positive  |
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It lives! Red letter day indeed.
Seconded on the kamm tail idea. I reckon that'll look great. Are you thinking of making it curved, or follow the straight line linking the two taillights?
I suppose a couple of cardboard mockups might help decide on the style before committing to panelwork.
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Jun 30, 2023 10:51:41 GMT
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I really like the idea of a Kamm tail but there is still a huge amount of work to do to finish the car so it may have to wait until the end along with the bumpers, another feature that I would like to have.
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Duggy
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Jun 30, 2023 15:58:17 GMT
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Really coming together now John. Regarding the rear styling, as the body shape is quite flat in the vertical plane (not unlike a Ford Corsair to me in some ways), I'd be inclined to introduce some curvature via either a full width bumper and over riders such as the rear of a Sunbeam Alpine. Or, a slightly bolder option could be the more bulbous rear quarter bumpers and over riders from an early Spitfire. Pics for reference....   |
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glenanderson
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Jun 30, 2023 16:53:33 GMT
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Spitfire 1/4 bumpers would work for me. 👍
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My worst worry about dying is my wife selling my stuff for what I told her it cost...
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Jun 30, 2023 16:55:31 GMT
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Really coming together now John. Regarding the rear styling, as the body shape is quite flat in the vertical plane (not unlike a Ford Corsair to me in some ways), I'd be inclined to introduce some curvature via either a full width bumper and over riders such as the rear of a Sunbeam Alpine. Or, a slightly bolder option could be the more bulbous rear quarter bumpers and over riders from an early Spitfire. Pics for reference.... Really good suggestions there, thank you. I am planning on making bumpers and have already incorporated the fixtures because they will definitely as you suggest, add curvature and reduce the flat effect. But, as I mentioned earlier I have to put my efforts into finishing the bodywork before getting round to the cosmetics. |
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The rear end looks much better in the video than still photos, I'm sure a bumper is all it needs.
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The rear end looks much better in the video than still photos, I'm sure a bumper is all it needs. I'm pretty sure you're right about that but it will be some time before the bumpers chonk up to the top of the list of things to be done. As I mentioned, it was always my intention to fit bumpers and I would like to say that I took that into account when designing the rear end. But I cannot lie because we all know that I'm making it up as I go along and that there has, throughout, been a complete absence of any design. Mechnically, everything works, the brakes, clutch, hand brake and particularly the engine which is really sweet and terrific news considering that I got it for a hundred quid from a scrapyard. I'm now getting back to the front bodywork and hope to have a few pics over the next week or so. Thank you for your support and interest. |
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Yup. Bring the shape out with a bumper and that'll nicely form the lower edge, makes it look slightly like a Victorian skirt- gives the long deep sweep the rear window has a nice finish for the eyes to follow.
Sounds just right too. Well done!
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Yup. Bring the shape out with a bumper and that'll nicely form the lower edge, makes it look slightly like a Victorian skirt- gives the long deep sweep the rear window has a nice finish for the eyes to follow. Sounds just right too. Well done! Full width bumpers or quarter bumpers like the Spitfire? |
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Yup. Bring the shape out with a bumper and that'll nicely form the lower edge, makes it look slightly like a Victorian skirt- gives the long deep sweep the rear window has a nice finish for the eyes to follow. Sounds just right too. Well done! Full width bumpers or quarter bumpers like the Spitfire? Full width. Always. The only excuse for quarter bumpers is if you have four Cibies between them. So it isn't applicable to the back of the car  |
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Full width bumpers or quarter bumpers like the Spitfire? Full width. Always. The only excuse for quarter bumpers is if you have four Cibies between them. So it isn't applicable to the back of the car I agree but i just wondered what others thought. |
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Full width, makes the car look wider and lower.
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mk2cossie
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I actually prefer the look of the quarter bumpers on the Spitfire pictured above over the Sunbeam full width. But I'm sure whichever route johnbonnett takes, will end up the right choice  |
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Full width bumpers or quarter bumpers like the Spitfire? Full width. You have a substantial slab of side profile; it needs a full width bumper. The larger and flatter the sides, the larger the bumper you can get away with, or the more garnish you can add. Overriders are required. I think it's what the Hillman Avenger would have looked like on the back end if it has been released ten years sooner. (That's a compliment, the Avenger is a sharp looking car). Phil |
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Last Edit: Jul 2, 2023 2:54:04 GMT by PhilA
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I actually prefer the look of the quarter bumpers on the Spitfire pictured above over the Sunbeam full width. But I'm sure whichever route johnbonnett takes, will end up the right choice The Spitfire has a dainty fade to the back of the car; adding too much bumper to it would make it look "heavy". johnbonnett has a very bold shape in the back end of his car, a full width bumper will help to define that, visually. |
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Last Edit: Jul 2, 2023 2:59:43 GMT by PhilA
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The short drive highlighted lateral movement of the rear axle which didn't come as a complete surprise to me. The transverse links had to be bent and because of this, they could not be tightened using left and right hand thread rod ends. The only way they could be fitted was to adjust the rod ends until their fixings lined up but they could not be tensioned. McGill Motorsport from whom I sourced the rod ends offer turnbuckles for this very application and fitting just the one has solved the problem by removing all traces of play.   |
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I have now cut duplicate stations for the right hand front wing allowing the nearside to be reassembled and put in position. The lower valence is also in place which does the job of covering the front cross member. The valance and the lower tube on the radiator grille will be fixed but the rest of the grille attached to the bonnet will hinge forward.   |
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