byakk0
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Aug 11, 2023 14:18:46 GMT
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definitely lots of methods. Never can have enough references.
I've been watching lots of metal shaping on various channels. I find them quite interesting and educational. I'm hoping some of what I'm learning will translate into some sort of usuable skill down the road. Ron Covell has a couple interesting techniques I've actually needed for work. But, I have yet to attempt a reverse curve...no need yet.
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Aug 11, 2023 14:57:39 GMT
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definitely lots of methods. Never can have enough references. I've been watching lots of metal shaping on various channels. I find them quite interesting and educational. I'm hoping some of what I'm learning will translate into some sort of usuable skill down the road. Ron Covell has a couple interesting techniques I've actually needed for work. But, I have yet to attempt a reverse curve...no need yet. Hazen, you are really lucky in the states to have so many world class metal shapers and the amount of equipment on sale for little money is mind blowing. I enjoy Lazze's videos and in this one he explains how to form a reverse curve. |
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Aug 11, 2023 15:55:09 GMT
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As you say john we all have our own way to get there , i thin , if it were me , i would sacrifice a few rolls of duct tape , silver or black , or even that ally tape , and cover the whole of one side of the bonnet and wing to see the shape for certain , before bending metal .
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Aug 11, 2023 17:32:51 GMT
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Well, what a difference a day makes. a couple of hours this afternoon and the practice piece was done. I wasn't aiming for perfection, just the method to achieve the profile. With a wooden buck it isn't always possible to see if the panel is touching every station which is why sweeps are invaluable. They transfer the profile to the topside of the panel which makes it easy to see how the shape is progressing. I just cut them from cardboard which is quick and easy.  I am lucky to have a lower anvil that is very close to the required radius  It's quite amazing how much stretch and curvature can be wheeled into a panel   |
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That's a lovely curve!
I'm jealous of the tools. Would love an English wheel.
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That's a lovely curve! I'm jealous of the tools. Would love an English wheel. They should come with a warning. Metal shaping is addictive |
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Proton Jumbuck-deceased :-(
2005 Kia Sorento the parts hauling heap
V8 Humber Hawk
1948 Standard12 pickup SOLD
1953 Pop build (wifey's BIVA build).
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Aug 12, 2023 13:34:01 GMT
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Thank you for that. I'm always fascinated by other people's projects and techniques and learn so much from them. There's a French boy who has a Youtube channel and he does some incredible work and it is so nice to see young people carrying on these traditional skills and ensuring that they will not be lost. Metal Shaper Tom is another example. Here are a couple of links in case anyone is interested. www.youtube.com/@metal_shaper_tom/videoswww.youtube.com/@slgclassiccars4098/videos |
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Aug 12, 2023 20:58:00 GMT
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That's a lovely curve! I'm jealous of the tools. Would love an English wheel. They should come with a warning. Metal shaping is addictive It's therapeutic. |
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Aug 19, 2023 10:22:11 GMT
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Just spotted your previous masterpiece up for sale John! Looks to still be in good nick which is heartening.  |
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Aug 19, 2023 12:11:11 GMT
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Just spotted your previous masterpiece up for sale John! Looks to still be in good nick which is heartening. Oh that's interesting. Where is it advertised ad for how much? |
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Aug 19, 2023 12:43:07 GMT
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I've spent a lot of time faffing around with the buck, reshaping it to make it more pleasing to my eye and crucially, easier to form. I've tried to make the curves flow more freely with less of a sudden transition. Here's the latest iteration.   I've also been messing about with aluminium offcuts experimenting in trying to find a way of forming the area adjacent to the headlamp that I can manage. It is a complex curve and a lot of stretching needed in local areas to follow the curvature so I'll have to make it in at least two parts and weld them together. I've still got the other half of the buck to make but I get easily bored and sidetracked.  |
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Aug 19, 2023 12:51:02 GMT
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Last Edit: Aug 19, 2023 12:53:11 GMT by vitesseefi
1967 Triumph Vitesse convertible (old friend)
1996 Audi A6 2.5 TDI Avant (still durability testing)
1972 GT6 Mk3 (Restored after loong rest & getting the hang of being a car again)
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Aug 19, 2023 13:21:47 GMT
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You're not the only one struggling Nick, but after an hour playing about this morning with the scrap of aluminium, I'm feeling more confident that I have a better than evens chance of pulling it off. I like the shape and don't want to compromise it by altering it to something that I can definitely make but not something that I particularly like. Yes thank you for the Ebay link. I rang the vendor and had a good chat with him. He has kept the car beautifully and I hope he achieves close to his asking price. It would be £40k to build. |
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Aug 19, 2023 17:04:54 GMT
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Well chaps, I've just gone back to the workshop to take a fresh look at the buck and despite my previous remarks about the final iteration and I'm happy with it, looking again, I have doubts so I'm going to make a change in the area where the buck drops sharply to the grille adjacent to the headlight with the aim to give a much gentler transition from one curve to another. I'm hoping this will be an improvement and it will definitely be easier to form. Wood is perhaps a bit easier to work with than metal when it comes to alterations so the changes shouldn't take that long. As soon as they are done I'll submit photos for your consideration. I really appreciate your comments. Thank you.
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Aug 19, 2023 20:33:40 GMT
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My absolute favourite build on RR cannot wait to see what you choose to do. Really impressed by the old GT4 project as well, have a particular affinity to that car as I was a spitire owner and modified my own car with a MG 1500, not to every triumph enthusiasts taste back then!
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Aug 27, 2023 16:43:41 GMT
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We seem to have a new look to the forum page since I last visited. After a huge amount of work, mainly altering the shape and making adjustments to give a better visual image, the buck is now finished to my satisfaction and great relief. It has taken an inordinate amount of time to get to this point but of course it has to be right for any hope of producing a satisfactory and,    crucially, a symmetric bonnet. The paper covering which although not a true facsimile of the metal gives a strong idea of how the finished bonnet might look and to my eye, it looks encouraging. |
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Aug 27, 2023 19:24:34 GMT
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that does look a lot of work John , well done .
how do you blend the wings into the under screen and door area ?
regards
robert
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75swb
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Aug 27, 2023 19:24:34 GMT
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I can't get a sense of how the wings meet the 'a' pillar in the photo, but the bonnet and wings look great with the paper giving a shape to them. Cracking work!
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Aug 27, 2023 20:04:44 GMT
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Yeah this is going to look great!
So the quickest way to get that shape is to dope some canvas over the frame, WW1 biplane style. Job jobbed!
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