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The car is looking great Grizz. Amazing progress! I don't tend to comment unless I've got something worthwhile to put forward. So here are my thoughts for what they are worth regarding the number plate placement. I don't think the Cortina suspension is too bad looking and there are many kit cars and hotrods around showing it much more visibly. Aesthetically, I think the number plate looks best central and helps hides the brackets under the bumper. But my more controversial suggestion is to place it to the side as in the second photograph, hiding the suspension then, on the opposite side, fit an oil cooler of similar propotions to the number plate Bosozoku style with the pipes exiting through the bottom of the vertical grille slots. It will depend very much on the final style of the car but, if you're going for a fun vehicle that isn't to be taken too seriously, it could be made to work! Especially if you are adding a rear spoiler and went for a deeper possibly aero front bumper. There, I've said my bit - I'm ready to be shot down! Morning Thom, Well……… I really like that idea., after all, it is a Japanese car, under the skin, kinda, if you use your imagination. However, I really like that idea. Had not considered it till now. Of course that means I now need to find a fake oil cooler of sufficient dimensions to try there, and some old hydraulic pipes. I still hve another sucker punch idea in mind, but your idea falls squarely in the “Tongue firmly in cheek” original remit and vision. Thanks for posting it up here. Photoshoppers? It would probably be easier to find a real oil cooler in a breaker’s yard than a fake one.😎 |
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"Of course that means I now need to find a fake oil cooler of sufficient dimensions to try there, and some old hydraulic pipes." ... or .. you could use an intercooler to go with the turbo ... just sayin'  |
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mrbig
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I like the 'fake' oil cooler idea! But I'm all ears for the sucker punch too! Go with it Grizz, your own style has always been a winner for me, harking back to the days of seeing your Nascar themed Berlingo over on VZI...
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I don't think the Cortina suspension is too bad looking and there are many kit cars and hotrods around showing it much more visibly. Aesthetically, I think the number plate looks best central and helps hides the brackets under the bumper. But my more controversial suggestion is to place it to the side as in the second photograph, hiding the suspension then, on the opposite side, fit an oil cooler of similar propotions to the number plate Bosozoku style with the pipes exiting through the bottom of the vertical grille slots. It will depend very much on the final style of the car but, if you're going for a fun vehicle that isn't to be taken too seriously, it could be made to work! Especially if you are adding a rear spoiler and went for a deeper possibly aero front bumper. So the way to hide some necessary, but industrial looking, parts is to randomly hang ugly junk in front of it? |
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 Partial to an exposed oil cooler myself ! Pretty sure the new owner had this removed within minutes of getting it home though... James |
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Jan 13, 2022 21:19:23 GMT
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Morning Thom, Well……… I really like that idea., after all, it is a Japanese car, under the skin, kinda, if you use your imagination. However, I really like that idea. Had not considered it till now. Of course that means I now need to find a fake oil cooler of sufficient dimensions to try there, and some old hydraulic pipes. I still hve another sucker punch idea in mind, but your idea falls squarely in the “Tongue firmly in cheek” original remit and vision. Thanks for posting it up here. Photoshoppers? It would probably be easier to find a real oil cooler in a breaker’s yard than a fake one.😎 "Of course that means I now need to find a fake oil cooler of sufficient dimensions to try there, and some old hydraulic pipes." ... or .. you could use an intercooler to go with the turbo ... just sayin' I like the 'fake' oil cooler idea! But I'm all ears for the sucker punch too! Go with it Grizz, your own style has always been a winner for me, harking back to the days of seeing your Nascar themed Berlingo over on VZI... I don't think the Cortina suspension is too bad looking and there are many kit cars and hotrods around showing it much more visibly. Aesthetically, I think the number plate looks best central and helps hides the brackets under the bumper. But my more controversial suggestion is to place it to the side as in the second photograph, hiding the suspension then, on the opposite side, fit an oil cooler of similar propotions to the number plate Bosozoku style with the pipes exiting through the bottom of the vertical grille slots. It will depend very much on the final style of the car but, if you're going for a fun vehicle that isn't to be taken too seriously, it could be made to work! Especially if you are adding a rear spoiler and went for a deeper possibly aero front bumper. So the way to hide some necessary, but industrial looking, parts is to randomly hang ugly junk in front of it? Partial to an exposed oil cooler myself ! Pretty sure the new owner had this removed within minutes of getting it home though... James After a severe bollocking by Nick, I may skip the intercooler till it becomes real. In the mean time, the Sucker Punch will evolve down to its essence and be investigated Thank you mrbig Prozac was an example of how visuals could change attitudes. This build is a serious tongue in cheek build. Hopefully it delivers a smile or three. |
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Jan 13, 2022 21:33:46 GMT
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I wouldnt do the fake cooler. But if it was functional, I'd run it ( through a thermostat if it would overcool the engine ) You could have a US size plate made ( in your choice of State ) that says GRIZZ to offset the plate on the other side... |
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Jan 13, 2022 22:16:52 GMT
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I wouldnt do the fake cooler. But if it was functional, I'd run it ( through a thermostat if it would overcool the engine ) You could have a US size plate made ( in your choice of State ) that says GRIZZ to offset the plate on the other side... Part 2 or phase 2 may see an 1800 Miata with Turbo running 200bhp in there….. Regarding the number plate, I have a South African GRIZZ plate from my hometown, it may have to happen. |
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Jan 13, 2022 22:18:15 GMT
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Got home today from getting the Focus serviced. Mickey shouted over the fence…… “Got a parcel for you” So he hoiked a 19 pound box over the hedge. It had a Home Office pass tape on it, so I guess inspected and passed.  Dennis had sent me a parcel with some treasures. I actually only got to unpacking it at about 8.00pm and it made me laugh out loudly, tears in my eyes. Generous yes, and crazy for sure. Just reminded me that family is a lot more than blood. Karma is a strange mistress, but I love her and know she balances the books at all times. Unpacked the parcel, T-shirts for me and Craig and Sally from Clem in Arkansas and Dennis in St Louis. I sent some cash to Clem’s Tuba Trucks Toy Drive via Dennis’ daughter in law Hanna on Paypal (you see we can all be kind and contribute to worthwhile charities) and in return I got a T-shirt. Also included was some Oatmeal cream cookies, an all time favourite, and what had me laughing loudly was some of Roger Orf’s hunted smoked deer sausage. The sausage was wrapped in bodyshop panel paper and masking tape to keep the wrapping together. Just perfect.  Then parcel no 2 in a Rural King bag delivered a hoody for Sally and I each. Way too generous.  And then, for the Rezin Rockit a pair of high end, 5 point racing harnesses. Simpson. .jpg) And one for the passenger.  So there you go.  Karma bucket overflowing. Life is good. Roll on the weekend. |
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Harnesses have an unfortunate name!
I was thinking about the rear mounting, you can boot them to the frame of floor, you just need a harness bar as part of the roll cage.
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Jan 14, 2022 12:32:03 GMT
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Harnesses have an unfortunate name! I was thinking about the rear mounting, you can boot them to the frame of floor, you just need a harness bar as part of the roll cage. Question for the collective Do the rear harness anchors have to be above or below shoulder height to prevent them snapping your clavicles in case of hard frontal impact? I have no bloody idea. |
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Jan 14, 2022 12:40:24 GMT
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At or slightly above.
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My worst worry about dying is my wife selling my stuff for what I told her it cost...
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Jan 14, 2022 12:45:15 GMT
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I expect the manufacturers' websites will provide definitive information
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Jan 14, 2022 14:21:02 GMT
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Black is not a colour ! .... Its the absence of colour
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Jan 14, 2022 17:13:35 GMT
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Hi Grizz, In my car we fabricated some large plates which bolt through the parcel shelf and into the rear vertical return(below the rear window), see below.  The chap who fabricated them suggested they were inspired by a BMW seatbelt mount, but i've never been able to find evidence of that. Edit: Although on closer inspection this may not work for your car.....hope it provides inspiration anyway. |
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Jan 14, 2022 21:12:49 GMT
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What I thought. But it seems downward is recommended. I expect the manufacturers' websites will provide definitive information Spot on. Thank you Jimi, that is great, I would not have found it that quickly.  A. Crotch belt must be split at about 20 degrees to create the stabilization of the pelvis bone (hip area). B. Crotch belt routed through seat vertical or slightly backwards. Try to avoid that the belt pivot on edge of hole through the seat. C. Shoulder belts must be angled 10 to max 20 degrees down behind the neck. Belts should never pivot or touch the edge of hole through seat. D. Lap belt is where we want to remove as much energy as possible in a crash. The pelvis (hip area) is the strongest bone in the body. Therefore, it is paramount the lap belt is mounted with correct geometry and height so it can work properly. Install backwards 20-45 degrees from vertical line, make sure lap belt can hook and secure the pelvis bone. The harness lock-mechanism should be placed as low as possible to avoid submarining and damaged to stomach and lower back. E. Shoulder belts should be mounted as close as possible behind seat back (20-50cm). If HANS is used it can be wisely to angle the belts 20 degrees towards center to avoid belts sliding off the HANS.  |
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Jan 14, 2022 21:35:58 GMT
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Friday….. WEEEEEEKKKEND ! ! So today I took my lunch break and grabbed a coffee and headed down to the garage. I had started on the mock up of the roll bar the other day, so continued with that. Also a few other little jobs. Do note, the drivers seat has been mounted lower because in the fully back position it needs to slide back and downward on the rails. So if you move it forward for shortarsess if will raise it vertically. Make sense?  And finally, drawn for copying, the cross bar for the harness mounts are at shoulder height. .jpg) I think I am liking this so far. Remember 28 August 2020 ? First pic or is that PIG entry on this thread.  When I came in today there were a few letters and a recycled padded envelope (my kinda thinking) addressed to me…….. First thought was that I had not ordered anything off Ebay, nobody had said they were sending a small envelope. So I opened it……….. peteh1969 had gone and created a 3D printing programme for the Rocket Pig and printed me some logos for the Rezin Rockit to use once it is ready to be on the road. I will need to try paint them in chrome, and then hopefully get some clear resin to fill them in as badges for the sides. .jpg) I was chuffed as a chuffed thing can be.  These little details make a big difference. I have another plan. Small triangular side plates to add to the outsides of the seats, just to prevent sliding out, more as a visual detail. In the style that Dez put on his Transit, recovery. With dimple die holes in three sizes. Or just step drilled in different sizes and finished off. Or something like that. Picture lifted from Dez’ thread. .jpg) Using the seatbelt bolt and securing pin to keep it in place.  Adding more and more little details, hmmmmmmm….? maybe tomorrow will see some real work again. |
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Jan 14, 2022 21:48:01 GMT
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Harnesses have an unfortunate name! I was thinking about the rear mounting, you can boot them to the frame of floor, you just need a harness bar as part of the roll cage. Question for the collective Do the rear harness anchors have to be above or below shoulder height to prevent them snapping your clavicles in case of hard frontal impact? I have no bloody idea. All I would say is don't boot them to the frame of floor, bolt them to the frame or floor! ...and definitely do not rely on predictive text!!! |
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Jan 14, 2022 22:02:03 GMT
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Those are exactly what I was thinking when I suggested a 3D printed version of enamel badges. Big thumbs up from me |
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Jan 14, 2022 22:53:55 GMT
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chrome and resin pigs ? i’d go for the full colour of the original rocket pig piccy
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