cjj
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Jul 27, 2020 18:30:32 GMT
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I thought I'd share my own new retro-ish shed project. Thought this rather useful vehicle needed rescuing after seeing it locally.  The key specs: 2000 Renault Scenic 1.9 dCi Monaco somewhere around 165k on it, I think. Registered Sep '00, Last owner had it since January '01! Assume it was a demo, having been bought at 3 months old (2900 miles). Still have the receipt. The 'Monaco' spec, from what I can deduce, was the top spec for these, and it basically adds leather (blue, in this case). Biggest issue is the amount of moss growing on it! Already fixed the weirdly positioned aerial, too!   Front discs are badly worn, so it sounds like a steam locomotive at the moment...  Few scratches on the paintwork, but it's mainly dull and tarnished all round.  Quite a few 'battle wounds'    Interior is nicely spec'd, seats are very comfortable but also very worn!   Lots of storage holes in, under, and around the seats, and can be made van-like by lifting them out individually. Still has the original mats it seems, which is a bonus.  It has a CD Changer. Well, had, maybe. No idea what happened to the magazine!  Also found some not-so-spares in the lower glovebox, so I'll have to figure out where they came from. the bigger round one seemed to be off the seat base, so that's where it's been re-inserted.  Got some water ingress in the boot, visible on the right along the 'ledge'/rail  This is pooling in the spare wheel well, where, well, the spare wheel should also be but isn't!  Exhaust looks good and it's generally clean looking underneath  Has rear discs, if you see that as a bonus  Also, twin sunroofs (should that be 'sunrooves'?). They tilt but don't slide from what I can figure so far.  Speedo display isn't working, hence confusion over the actual milage in the first bit...  Also found a split steering rack gaitor  Lots of things to look at, but the list is generally: - Electric mirrors don't work - checked a fuse, found nothing of cause so far. 12v is getting to the switch. - Mileage display isn't lit/visible/working - have checked a fuse, will probably have to get to the bulb and see what's what. - Rear fog light on dash comes on when you brake (will check bulbs/earths) - Front discs are shot, as mentioned - Tyres need replacing, so may look out for a set of different wheels. - Steering stutters and sounds like a pigeon - no idea what the cause is yet - Possibly needs a rear engine mount, I think... The engine seems to dance around a bit and causes resonance in the driver's door card when idling. Also has quite a big dent to the split tailgate, so as these are getting a bit less common it might be a bit of a pain to actually do much about. |
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Last Edit: Aug 9, 2020 20:37:08 GMT by cjj
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Jul 27, 2020 18:49:32 GMT
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These are pretty practical but plastics can be brittle and a French car with dodgy electrics, that's unusual......
Think I have a Haynes manual for this somewhere as my brother in-law had one.
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Needs a bigger hammer mate.......
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cjj
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Jul 27, 2020 18:56:24 GMT
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These are pretty practical but plastics can be brittle and a French car with dodgy electrics, that's unusual...... Think I have a Haynes manual for this somewhere as my brother in-law had one. In fairness, it's the model/era before the electrics on French cars became VERY bad (multiplexing and CAN BUS). Doesn't seem to be anything that you wouldn't expect to see on a 20 year old 150k+ car, in fairness! |
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Jul 27, 2020 21:24:56 GMT
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Can't believe I found this thread, I've literally came off Facebook looking at these thinking, a little drop, some steels and the seats pull out could make a cool little daily van thing.
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cjj
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Jul 27, 2020 22:55:33 GMT
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Yeah there's under floor storage, too, which makes them extra handy. Amazing how comfortable older car seats are compared to new ones, too. Anyway, so chalk up another experience point - it's a Renault so it has those odd 'locking hub caps' on the alloys. Not a problem, I think, I'll sort that. Sure enough, some long nose pliers did the job. Anyway, I take the hub caps off...  Ah well! Definitely didn't find a wheel nut in the car. Might have to try another dig around, just to be 100% sure though, but I expect I'll have some fun with these. The outers are the spinning type, but if I can get them off the actual bolts themselves should be an easy job. |
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Jul 28, 2020 11:22:39 GMT
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Aaaaaah , a migraine scenic. Lovely thing to drive and great fun if you enjoy dealing with shonky electrics and spending every weekend bolting back on all the bits that have fallen off during the week. Swmbo had one when jr was a toddler just for the practicality of it , win there , but we unloaded it when nobody could get to the bottom of a schitzophrenic alarm..main dealer and local top auto sparks all gave up. Starting to rot too at 6-7 years. Have fun.
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'80 s1 924 turbo..hibernating
'80 golf gli cabriolet...doing impression of a skip
'97 pug 106 commuter...continuing cheapness making me smile!
firm believer in the k.i.s.s and f.i.s.h principles.
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cjj
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Jul 28, 2020 11:26:27 GMT
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Aaaaaah , a migraine scenic. Lovely thing to drive and great fun if you enjoy dealing with shonky electrics and spending every weekend bolting back on all the bits that have fallen off during the week. Swmbo had one when jr was a toddler just for the practicality of it , win there , but we unloaded it when nobody could get to the bottom of a schitzophrenic alarm..main dealer and local top auto sparks all gave up. Starting to rot too at 6-7 years. Have fun. Was it definitely a Mark 1? They seem pretty immune to rot, as seems to be the consensus of the owner's club too. Key-card ones are a different creature altogether! |
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cjj
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Jul 28, 2020 11:38:34 GMT
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Small update. Had a look at seeing if I could get the mileage to display. I have no idea how I missed it not working before I bought it, but I would have had the same assumption really - just a bulb. As it's a french car, half the dash needs to come off. Luckily it was quite easily to do:  The not-so-nice surprise was finding out there are no 'bulbs' to be replaced...   I marked up the needle positions and removed the fascia from the cluster to find that the mileage display works using a rubber conductive strip to press-fit onto the PCB  I also checked the SMD LEDs worked correctly  A bit of pressure showed that perhaps through age/expansion the rubber strip wasn't touching/conducting. With some pressure, it actually worked  So I made a little cardboard gasket...  ...and put it all back together.  It might be short term, I'm not sure - we'll see how it goes. Surprisingly, I couldn't see anything online that eluded to this problem or solution, so makes me wonder if it's been treated as terminal before. I imagine this is perhaps one of the problems that force the previous owner's hand - I dread to think how much his trusted garage would have quoted/charged based on some of the receipts. |
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Frankenhealey
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Jul 28, 2020 12:01:03 GMT
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Cardboard gasket FTW. Necessity is the mother of creative enterprise as they say. Bookmarked.
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Tales of the Volcano Lair hereFrankenBug - Vulcan Power hereThe Frankenhealey here |
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cjj
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Jul 28, 2020 12:28:51 GMT
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Cardboard gasket FTW. Necessity is the mother of creative enterprise as they say. Bookmarked. Yes indeed. It's corrugated, so allows a bit of compression where needed. It remains to be seen if it slowly reverts, but I think that particular part is just a display, so could be swapped for another from another cluster, if necessary. The 'cradle' could also probably be adjusted in other ways if required. |
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Jul 28, 2020 14:48:04 GMT
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Aaaaaah , a migraine scenic. Lovely thing to drive and great fun if you enjoy dealing with shonky electrics and spending every weekend bolting back on all the bits that have fallen off during the week. Swmbo had one when jr was a toddler just for the practicality of it , win there , but we unloaded it when nobody could get to the bottom of a schitzophrenic alarm..main dealer and local top auto sparks all gave up. Starting to rot too at 6-7 years. Have fun. Was it definitely a Mark 1? They seem pretty immune to rot, as seems to be the consensus of the owner's club too. Key-card ones are a different creature altogether! Yup...same shape. White '02 dci.. forget the model , half leather , twin roofs , elec everything , split tailgate. Tbh if the alarm hadnt gone rogue on it we would have kept it for a while but with a young nipper it was a p.i.t.a! |
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'80 s1 924 turbo..hibernating
'80 golf gli cabriolet...doing impression of a skip
'97 pug 106 commuter...continuing cheapness making me smile!
firm believer in the k.i.s.s and f.i.s.h principles.
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Jul 28, 2020 15:55:51 GMT
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These are pretty practical but plastics can be brittle and a French car with dodgy electrics, that's unusual...... Standard fitment  Missus had one, similar mileage. Dashboard lit up like Blackpool illuminations, but was unbreakable. |
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Jul 28, 2020 19:09:40 GMT
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Glad I found this thread as I'm looking at Scenics to be a potential engine donor...given me a few things to look & watch out for!
Will be watching with interest...😁
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cjj
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Jul 28, 2020 20:18:37 GMT
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Jul 29, 2020 11:38:53 GMT
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the electrician i use for my control module work has one of these
its a 2001 1.4 petrol, hes had it the last 10 years and loves it, he travels all over the country and uses it as his work vehicle
apart from a burst power steering hose and the cubby holes in the floor filling with water (he just puts up with that) its been super reliable
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cjj
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Gave it it's "first" wash today. As per the various photos so far, it very much had the hallmarks of "not been washed for a number of years". With cars like this it's, of course, very difficult to get it clean in one go. I find it generally takes a few washes and a cleansing (clay etc) to get it properly cleaned, so this is a start. Here's some of the 'before' stuff      After a snow foam, wash, and severe scrubbing (including a blade and flathead to clean the vegetation from the seals).      Some dints and scrapes that won't, however, wash out!  I always think it'd be good to hand wash a car before you buy it, because you find lots more little things that need resolving. In this case: - there are sections of the paint which have lacquer peel, on the bonnet and roof especially, so it's too far gone to be an immaculate clean-up. There are, however, some marks and stains that look like they will come out with a machine polish. - the rear wiper arm is broken and doesn't hold the blade securely - the front driver's wing/bumper has taken a bit of a knock and it's slightly bent in. The wing is, of course, plastic, so I think I need to remove the bumper and do some bracket-bending. Ideally the passenger fog light needs replacing at some point too, so may need to do them at the same juncture. I did check the bulbs and found that the driver's rear brake bulb (380) has blown, which is what I am anticipating causes the fog light to show when you press the brake pedal. The good (but possibly confusing) news is that an extended period of snow foam with the pressure washer on, plus rinsing into a lot of the seals/seams/gaps, didn't appear to have caused any further water ingress into the spare wheel well. Confusing. The tyres are in a bad way so still trying to figure out if changing the wheels is a better option than replacing the tyres. |
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The tyres are in a bad way so still trying to figure out if changing the wheels is a better option than replacing the tyres. Where are you based? I've got the wheels on my Scenic with a ton of Michelin tread but I intend to break the car come November...I'll need something to roll the shell around on.. |
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cjj
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Jul 31, 2020 12:16:08 GMT
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The tyres are in a bad way so still trying to figure out if changing the wheels is a better option than replacing the tyres. Where are you based? I've got the wheels on my Scenic with a ton of Michelin tread but I intend to break the car come November...I'll need something to roll the shell around on.. Currently near Chippenham, Wilts (there's a few of us I think!). I think the Scenic is 5 stud isn't it? |
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cjj
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Jul 31, 2020 12:21:17 GMT
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I did have a brief look yesterday to see if I can improve the dent in the tailgate    I can get behind it, but unfortunately it's quite strong and thick steel - the crease is too much to allow anything to 'pop' out, even using quite strong air bags. I wasn't sure if a propane torch might soften the metal up to allow it, but then the bag will probably melt under the panel heat. I could put some self-tappers in and pull it, but the risk of a hole and water ingress doesn't outweigh the probability of success right now. I also found the rear washer hose is broken, so I suspect that might actually be the cause of the water ingress |
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