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Jun 19, 2020 10:30:29 GMT
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Hello everyone. Ive just signed up on here mainly to show off my latest mechanical love affair but also to find out if anyone here knows how I can find the number plate for the little Phase 1 205 Gti that I genuinely had to dig out of its resting place of 20 years or so last Monday. Have a picture, just so we know what were talking about. resize my pictures free downloadOk, so, yeah, its dog rough.... but it was cheap, and if the kids who broke into the yard hadn't smashed every piece of glass in it, it would actually be near enough complete... bar the wheels and the arch kit which shouldn't be too hard to find. Originally I was going to break it, then I thought it was too good for that and wanted to sell it, now i'm thinking I am actually in love with this little car and I want to build it..... but i'll need a V5c before I do that. Ive downloaded the V62 form from the DVLA and may just send that in with a some supporting photos and a grovelling letter attempting to mitigate the lack of a registration number but id much rather just find the number plate first. The aluminium VIN tag corresponds with the VIN/Chassis number stamped into the panel under the windscreen, in the engine bay directly in front of the driver so in that respect its correct but there must be a way that someone can find out what the original number plate was from the VIN plate alone. Does anyone here know how to do it? (this thread is duplicated on Pistonheads)
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Jun 19, 2020 12:03:06 GMT
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Someone with access to an HPI check can find the number plate from the VIN number, which you can use to apply for the V5. A kind soul on here did that with my MGB that came without plates or V5.
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cjj
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Jun 19, 2020 12:35:13 GMT
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A Peugeot dealer would be able to reverse lookup if they were worth their salt.
I would assume the DVLA would do it regardless?
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Jun 19, 2020 12:51:55 GMT
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Have a search for “no v5c” there was a thread on here recently from someone who had a moped without paperwork or reg number and went through a process to register it.
Good luck with the restoration!
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Jun 19, 2020 14:27:47 GMT
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Cheers guys,
Main dealer didnt tell me anything, local motor factors I use couldnt find anything from their databases, but I have just sent a guy on ebay a fiver who claims to be able to find the number plate from the VIN...... worth a try I suppose.
The DVLA might produce a V5c but why take the chance at this stage? They are bureaucrats after all and so the less involved they become the better in my book, really I just want to make their job as easy and straightforward as possible.
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TessierAshpool
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Jun 19, 2020 15:35:47 GMT
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Have a search for “no v5c” there was a thread on here recently from someone who had a moped without paperwork or reg number and went through a process to register it. Good luck with the restoration! That would be me (link in signature to Mecatecno thread). In short, V62 with a letter didn't work for me, but maybe would if you had a modern VIN. I also tried the eBay route. To be fair I suspect now that my moped was registered abroad and not here. If it had been, the eBay route would have been useful, particularly for relatively modern (30 years ish) vehicles. A reverse lookup by a motor factor or similar is the way to go, which is what the ebayers offer. I tried two, one offers a check before payment, and the other offered a refund if they couldn't find it (which they honoured). Also I know you are a bit short on windows but have you checked if the reg was etched anywhere e.g. base of windows, headlight, sunroof, mirror glass?
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Jun 19, 2020 15:47:37 GMT
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Isn't the vin on the metal strip that forms the edge of the scuttle?
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Jun 19, 2020 15:48:23 GMT
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Isn't the vin on the metal strip that forms the edge of the scuttle? Ignore me, didn't read the first post.
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TessierAshpool
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Jun 19, 2020 15:53:17 GMT
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On the subject of V62:
- there's no harm in trying (other than time) as they don't cash your cheque if they don't accept it - the DVLA did not it seems process ANY paperwork that they have been sent from start of lockdown until this week. They appear to have started working through the backlog (with reduced staff) as of the 12th of this month. Expect significant delays.
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Jun 19, 2020 17:25:38 GMT
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Again, thats why i want to make the DVLAs job as simple as possible. Theres no harm in trying, I agree, but the more straightforward it is for them the more likely they are to produce a V5. Just been through all the broken glass, sticks and leaves in the foot well (and have the bleeding fingertips to prove it) no old tax disc, no intact glass with a reg on it, i wonder if the sunroof has it though........ gimme a minute..... "Scuttle panel" thats the name I couldnt think of!
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Jun 19, 2020 17:39:05 GMT
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Nope.... nothing on the sunroof.... nothing on the windscreen laminate either......
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Jun 19, 2020 20:10:16 GMT
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There are some eBay listings ,not sure if they are legit but they claim to be able to get a registration number from a vin
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TessierAshpool
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Jun 19, 2020 21:10:57 GMT
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I agree with trying to make it easy for them. I take it you've been through the car with a fine tooth comb, checked behind the sun visors, under the boot carpet, everywhere for any scrap of paper. Also trawled through the undergrowth around the car for pieces of number plate?
If you know the previous keeper, did they ever post a pic of them with the car on Facebook etc? Explore every avenue and all..
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No, he wont have had facebook...... he wasnt the type.... this car was all but forgotten at the back of his yard for two decades.... Ive looked almost everywhere in the car, i found the old MOSS security sticker but no number plate. I still have to check under the seats but the releases are both seized at the moment and I don't want to force them unnecessarily. No word from the guy on ebay either .... no number plate.... no "thankyou very much, ill see what I can do"....no nothing
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Jun 20, 2020 20:56:49 GMT
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Just asked another Ebay reg finder guy but he couldnt find any info at all on it.. thankfully he didnt charge me for the search, although he would have done if he had found the plate.
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TessierAshpool
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Jun 21, 2020 10:16:54 GMT
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It is a bit odd that both the motor factor and the ebayer couldn't find anything - have you crosschecked both VIN places to make 100% sure that you have the correct number, it's easy to misread a digit if there's corrosion.
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Jun 21, 2020 13:40:37 GMT
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whats the vin you have?
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Jun 21, 2020 15:56:50 GMT
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Plates have probably been riding round on a ringer for a number of years until it got scrapped.....
Shouldn’t affect the outcome for the OP (though might add an inspection), but might cause a problem for the owner of the ringer if it’s still around.....
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1967 Triumph Vitesse convertible (old friend) 1996 Audi A6 2.5 TDI Avant (still durability testing) 1972 GT6 Mk3 (Restored after loong rest & getting the hang of being a car again)
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Hum, funny that people can't seem to find it. An HPI check found the numberplate for my MGB and that was from 1967! There's another route as well, which is to rebuild it as a standard car (remember to get/keep receipts for any parts you buy), and get it registered as a rebuilt historic vehicle using the same form as the IVA. As far as I can tell, you don't go through the full IVA procedure, but you need a mechanical inspection and a form that comes with it and a written report from an owner's club. You then get a new age appropriate plate rather than a Q. The info's here: www.gov.uk/vehicle-registration/reconstructed-classic-vehiclesAside: Man we have it lucky here. All these routes to get a car without plates back on the road, even rebuilding it and re-registering it as an old car. Compare that too the poor French who are only allowed to do visual modifications, or the Germans who have to have TUV approval for any aftermarket parts they put on their cars!
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Or the Japanese Shaken mot type test.
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