Dez
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Dec 14, 2019 18:20:24 GMT
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This is my other ‘main’ car. In that it actually works most of the time and I use it daily most of the time. About 10k a year actually! Afaik it’s the only falcon sedan delivery in the country. For the uninitiated, ‘sedan delivery’ is American for ‘car derived van’, rather than being truck derived or a specific van body. So it’s basically a 2 door sedan, sans windows. I’ve had it nearly two years, and done surprisingly little to it in that time, for me anyway. As I bought it on the 27th of feb 2018. In fact this is the obligatory ‘first fill’ pic, just round the corner from the sellers place near roundhay park. It was snowing heavily within 10 mins of this pic! I went to Leeds from Colchester for it as I knew how rare it was, having previously owned a 2dr wagon. Iirc they made less than 5000 in total over 3 years so it’s a pretty rare vehicle even stateside. I got the train up to my parents in Doncaster, then my mum drove me up to Leeds. Here it is back at my parents after dodging the snowstorms on the way back. It’s not perfect but it’s pretty good, and was priced appropriately. I didn’t want it to be 100% mint or I wouldn’t use it as intended. I really do just use it as a van!
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Last Edit: Dec 14, 2019 18:21:46 GMT by Dez
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Dec 14, 2019 20:29:50 GMT
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Seen at the Essex NSRA Swap,et, being loaded in a way a working vehicle should be loaded.
Love the quiet way it just gets on with the job.
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Dez
Club Retro Rides Member
And I won't sit down. And I won't shut up. And most of all I will not grow up.
Posts: 11,790
Club RR Member Number: 34
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Dec 14, 2019 20:46:46 GMT
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Seen at the Essex NSRA Swap,et, being loaded in a way a working vehicle should be loaded. Love the quiet way it just gets on with the job. I do forget how much I’ve used it tbh. That was when me you and Craig were lugging an axle into the back of it I believe.
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Dez
Club Retro Rides Member
And I won't sit down. And I won't shut up. And most of all I will not grow up.
Posts: 11,790
Club RR Member Number: 34
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Dec 14, 2019 20:54:14 GMT
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Well, I got up the next day to go home and everything was colour matched to my new ride. Drove 150 miles home anyway. Next few days down my way were eventful, weather was quite ridiculous. They new I need to get about though so they sent out the big guns. notice the snowdrifts are up to 4ft high on the right hand side!
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Last Edit: Dec 14, 2019 21:00:05 GMT by Dez
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Dec 14, 2019 21:09:13 GMT
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Nice... Those are really good cars. You probably already know this, but Peter Brock ( of Shelby fame ) had a '63 Sedan Delivery too. It had his trademark stripes ( he was doing those before he ever went to Shelby ), and several Cobra go faster goodies. And I built a '63 Sedan for my wife, years ago. Black on black on black, did some parts matching to end up with a 5 bolt bell 289 and a C4. Its no longer her daily driver, but its waiting its turn for me to go through it and make it nice again. ( old pic )
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Dez
Club Retro Rides Member
And I won't sit down. And I won't shut up. And most of all I will not grow up.
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Club RR Member Number: 34
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Dec 14, 2019 21:41:02 GMT
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This isn’t even an 8. It’s a 144 six, 3 on the tree, but does have the 3.5 gears. For what I use it for and the roads I drive it on it’s pretty good. Anything over 65 is thrashing it, but there isn’t a motorway for miles from here, and the dual carriageways are usually clogged with lorries so cruising at 60 isn’t a hazard. My daily commute is 15 miles of B-roads and single track lanes and I’m lucky to hit 50mph on one short stretch. I got 37mpg going to the gathering last year!
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Last Edit: Dec 14, 2019 21:41:37 GMT by Dez
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Love this. Such a cool daily.
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Dez
Club Retro Rides Member
And I won't sit down. And I won't shut up. And most of all I will not grow up.
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Club RR Member Number: 34
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Dec 15, 2019 13:21:20 GMT
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Less than a week after I bought this my workshop burned down. Trying to keep a ‘nice’ car clean whilst constantly being covered in ash/soot/black sludge (it rained a lot) during the cleanup was a little taxing to say the least. Bought some mooneyes rubber floor mats that helped with the carpets conservancy, and George in the paint shop next door even washed it for me! The car performed admirably during that period though. It acted as a van during the worship rebuild and on some world at home as well. One damp day this little part of its UK history showed through- Not actually a million miles away from me, I’m near Ipswich. From what I can gather this car has bounced back and forth between Yorkshire and east anglia for all the time it’s been in the country. It lived in elsecar near Barnsley for a good long while, then Norfolk, then Leeds, then down to mine near Ipswich. The elsecar connection is odd as my parents are antique dealers and used to have a unit in the Heritage centre there. Anyway, even though I’ve not done tons of actual work to the car, I have collected a lot of parts. First I bought these sunvisors by chance for eBay, they’re retrimmed so are nicer than my originals but had been poorly stored and had a rust mark on them. Obviously a rust mark on white vinyl is a big ask for most products to remove. I tired a few with no luck. Then by chance I saw this in a shop which specifically said ‘removes rust’ so I gave it a go. Amazingly, it did! That little dent in the vinyl has come out over time too, so they a pretty good buy for a tenner!
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Last Edit: Dec 15, 2019 13:27:08 GMT by Dez
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Dez
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And I won't sit down. And I won't shut up. And most of all I will not grow up.
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Club RR Member Number: 34
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Dec 15, 2019 16:12:20 GMT
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From the same guy i got the sunvisors off I got a v8 5 stud front end. The upper and lower arms are the same, but the spindles have bigger bearings, the drums are an inch bigger (10”) and are 5 stud instead of 4, so you can swap the whole lot over for better wheel styles. These are for future plans. I also bought some wheels. Guess which one I’ve cleaned! They’re 14x6 cragars. I don’t like 15s on falcons, they look too big. They’re 13” as stock, so 14s are just about right. Mines actually got 14” mustang steels on it already. I proably won’t end up using these now though. I did swap the normal caps for proper cragar spinners and fitted some new white bands though. Mockup. You can see where I was going here. They may still end up going on...
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hagus
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Dec 15, 2019 16:33:59 GMT
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Bloody love cragars! Perfect size too!
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Dez
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Dec 15, 2019 16:35:48 GMT
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In the meantime I also did something genuinely useful on the car. As standard sedan deliveries didn’t have a rear seat, they had a plywood platform in the back that ran up to the front seats to increase the level load area in the back. I’ve never actually seen a real one, nor has anyone else it seems, but there’s a glimpse of one in the original sales brochure. I wanted something similar to give me some storage space for all the junk i inevitably end up carrying round with me, but didn’t want it to come quite as far forward as that as I’m tall and need the seat far back. I don’t think my bench seat is original as it’s a bit lower down and farther back than usual but perfect for me. There was already a bit of ply cut for the back area which was reasonably well done, so I kept that and went and bought some more and cut a piece that ran from the edge of the flat load area forward to the B pillar, but not sticking forward of there like original. I made a drop panel that fitted from that down to the tunnel and added some timber framing to strengthen it up. With that all glued and screwed I bought some carpet and some glue. It stank awful so I figured it would be good. A while later- As you can see I cut a couple of cubby holes that will get doors on them at some point to stash things like a fuel can etc. I say at some point cos I’ve still not done it! A few months later I also got round to buying some ally trim strips and edging, and some nice stainless raised countersunk screws, and did this to make it look proper ‘finished’. It really does make a big difference to dragging stuff in and out too.
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Dez
Club Retro Rides Member
And I won't sit down. And I won't shut up. And most of all I will not grow up.
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Club RR Member Number: 34
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Dec 15, 2019 16:49:32 GMT
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Bloody love cragars! Perfect size too! I really I like them, but I’m not going for a muscle car look, hence adding the spinners. cragars can be ambiguous depending on how they’re used. I’m going ‘60s style kustom, and when a set of wheels that are *more* 60s kustom than cragars popped up reasonably local, I had to have them. Little bit of a clean and they’re basically brand new. No rust or marks anywhere. If you don’t know, they’re Astro supremes. Very much a lowrider/kustom wheel so to me they tip it over the cragars.
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Last Edit: Dec 15, 2019 16:50:42 GMT by Dez
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Dez
Club Retro Rides Member
And I won't sit down. And I won't shut up. And most of all I will not grow up.
Posts: 11,790
Club RR Member Number: 34
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Dec 15, 2019 16:58:22 GMT
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As well as buying suspension stuff I also managed to buy two complete engine and box packages, for various reasons. The first one I bought was a 200ci version of the falcon six, out of a 64/65 ranchero. I bought this largely for spares, even though it’s a complete running motor I could just fit if I wanted. It’s got the same 3spd manual box and came with a prop and rad as well, so gives me spares of a lot of things. The thing that really piqued my interest though, was that it had the accessory pulleys and compressor bracket for air-con. not only that, but it uses the york type pump (although it had a sanden bodged onto the original bracket). This is important, and quite a score but probably not for the reasons you think. Here it is dumped in the back of the Passat on the way home with some random bits of Edsel grille I bought off the guy too. The second one I bought is odd, in a good way. It’s out of a 79-81 fox body mustang. But it’s the ‘same’ 200ci straight six that came out in the falcon/mustang in 1964! The story goes that ford were having manufacturing problems with the v6s in fox bodies, so rather than axe the 6cyl cars or not be able to fulfill orders, they looked at what else they could stick in them that was cost effective whilst they ironed out the v6 issues, and came up with this. They dragged out the tooling for the 200ci straight 6, that hadn’t be used in any other vehicle for nearly 10 years at that point, improved the head a bit, fitted a newer design carb and dizzy, made the sump drop the right way and changed from road draft to PCV crankcase breathing, and err that was about it! What this means to owners of early 6cyl falcons and mustangs is there is a bolt-on big valve, big runner head. The inlet manifold is integral to the head on these and is the restriction of power on the earlier ones. But these are bored out which makes the head swap quite an upgrade. Indeed they’re quite sought after in the states for this reason. I got given this if I could go drag it off the guys drive 10 miles away! He had v8 swapped and it was junk to him. It had been left outside and had got water in, but I figured it was worth the chance. So engine crane stuffed into the back of the Passat I went and picked it up. Was a tight squeeze getting the engine, c4 autobox and crane in on the way back! So I now had a pallet full of engines and boxes to sort through.
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Last Edit: Dec 15, 2019 17:12:41 GMT by Dez
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jamesd1972
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Dec 15, 2019 16:58:50 GMT
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Nice, summer and winter wheel sets if its a daily driver ? Is it an official 3 seater ? good compromise for space / usability. Keep the updates coming. James
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Dec 15, 2019 17:15:02 GMT
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Why do the wheels have oval holes rather than round ones for studs/nuts? What keeps them from moving a bit and working lose when you drive?
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Dez
Club Retro Rides Member
And I won't sit down. And I won't shut up. And most of all I will not grow up.
Posts: 11,790
Club RR Member Number: 34
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Dec 15, 2019 17:24:56 GMT
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Nice, summer and winter wheel sets if its a daily driver ? Is it an official 3 seater ? good compromise for space / usability. Keep the updates coming. James Cragars are proably a bit nice for that so realistically ill sell em on. I’ve got some 5 stud steels now as well. It is more or less a daily but i tend to use it less through the winter as it’s a bit too nice for the really bad weather and the awful standards of driving that prevail in such conditions these days.
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Dez
Club Retro Rides Member
And I won't sit down. And I won't shut up. And most of all I will not grow up.
Posts: 11,790
Club RR Member Number: 34
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Dec 15, 2019 17:28:23 GMT
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Why do the wheels have oval holes rather than round ones for studs/nuts? What keeps them from moving a bit and working lose when you drive? They’re called unilug. One wheel fits the 3x most common US stud patterns 4.5” ford/Mopar, 4.75” chevy, 5” big GM (Caddy Buick Olds Pontiac). By the time you’ve got all 5 nuts in they can’t go anywhere, and they have special shaped washers to spread the load. Doing the nuts up stops them moving, the clamping force of the nuts is far greater than any lateral load they’re subjected to.
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Last Edit: Dec 15, 2019 17:29:53 GMT by Dez
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Dec 15, 2019 17:42:25 GMT
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Why do the wheels have oval holes rather than round ones for studs/nuts? What keeps them from moving a bit and working lose when you drive? They’re called unilug. One wheel fits the 3x most common US stud patterns 4.5” ford/Mopar, 4.75” chevy, 5” big GM (Caddy Buick Olds Pontiac). By the time you’ve got all 5 nuts in they can’t go anywhere, and they have special shaped washers to spread the load. Doing the nuts up stops them moving, the clamping force of the nuts is far greater than any lateral load they’re subjected to. Thanks Dez, thats really interesting, i've not come across this before.
I assume its an American thing that hasn't translated much over here on non US cars?
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Dez
Club Retro Rides Member
And I won't sit down. And I won't shut up. And most of all I will not grow up.
Posts: 11,790
Club RR Member Number: 34
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Dec 15, 2019 17:45:30 GMT
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You do see it but not as much. Obviously there’s zero reason for it OEM, it’s only aftermarket wheels that have it. Some UK/euro wheels do have it though.
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Dec 15, 2019 19:42:31 GMT
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I love your plans for it Dez. Did you get the V8 steering as well? Those parts are super rare, here in the States. Because everybody wants them, and ( last time I looked )they are not reproduced ( Mustang V8 fits but gives bumpsteer ) Or are you going to adapt the 6L steering to the V8 uprights?
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