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Car talk.
So the thing about this part of the car work is that for various reasons to do with general busyness and general impracticality (a busy period for both of us) the two sides of the truck bed are going to be temporarily sprayed with the "matching paint" rattle cans I have, and coated with rattle can clear coat as well.
I mention this now as otherwise it might seem a bit of an odd way to conclude this particular repair.
As things stand the car cant easily be taken into the spray booth for a while. It's almost impossible to say how long it might be before it can be done. I want to be able to take it out and about this Spring and Summer. So a temporary rattle can finish will be far better than leaving it indoors all summer or driving it without any surface protection.
So what's happening instead is a 90% good job on the shaping and surface finishing. Then the best possible coating of the metallic blue for basic presentation's sake, and then the clear coat to protect the paint. I will then be doing my best to make the surface finish as smooth and shiny as possible, but it would be a stretch to think it might be seamless and perfect.
Then at some future point I will be tackling another bit of bubbling bodywork which will need new metal shaping and welding in. After that, the temporary paint will be taken back again, and then the car may possibly end up a completely different colour. I don't know yet but it's under consideration.
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I should add that Mr Workshops would happily help me to do the paint properly now, and has already offered to make that happen. But knowing what I know about our schedules I have said no and taken the decision myself to rattle can it temporarily. I put my foot down.
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Last Edit: Jan 6, 2020 18:31:57 GMT by Deleted
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I heard you put your foot down a lot, that's why it only does 12 to the gallon  Good plan on the temp protective paint - perfectly acceptable solution. |
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I heard you put your foot down a lot, that's why it only does 12 to the gallon Shhhhh, shhhhhhhhhh. Nothing to see here Ociffer. Good plan on the temp protective paint - perfectly acceptable solution. You surprise me with that response. I only wrote that post as an expectation management post very much with you in mind (not entirely you, but you definitely strongly on my wall chart). It suddenly occurred to me that you could be apoplectic if I went to all this effort and then ended with some rattle cans hahaha That has been the plan since we were doing the door, and I'm being very careful on here to only talk about or show what's already been done, not what is planned to happen. But suddenly, this one felt like it might need a bit of warning. It might help explain the recent ponderings about alternative paint jobs in the Naughty Corner too  |
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Last Edit: Jan 6, 2020 19:57:51 GMT by Deleted
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Protection is everything.
Cars rot fast enough on their own, without us leaving them without protection.
Just try to use rattle cans made up by paint factors rather than halfrauds ones as the paint quality will be much better.
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Protection is everything. Cars rot fast enough on their own, without us leaving them without protection. Just try to use rattle cans made up by paint factors rather than halfrauds ones as the paint quality will be much better. I was going to point you to this excerpt from my post above... the two sides of the truck bed are going to be temporarily sprayed with the "matching paint" rattle cans I have, ... but having read it again I can appreciate that I need to work even harder to ensure absolute clarity  The matching paint rattle cans I'm referring to are the paint that was mixed for me by Refinish systems specifically for the car. It's all in hand. Rot risk is already known and is why I'm doing this temporarily, rather than not doing anything at all. |
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Last Edit: Jan 6, 2020 20:28:42 GMT by Deleted
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Good man, resume hair growing then.
And put that octopus down!
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jamesd1972
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Sounds like a plan, 10 yard finish for the short term better than some ever get !
12mpg ?! There was me thinking something like this would work instead of the LR which sits at about 20. Oh well man maths to the rescue....
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Sounds like a plan, 10 yard finish for the short term better than some ever get ! 12mpg ?! There was me thinking something like this would work instead of the LR which sits at about 20. Oh well man maths to the rescue.... James 12mpg is merely a vague guesstimate based on anecdotes that were slightly inaccurate. Plus I am smashing the absolute bejeebers out of the pedal quite frequently on the rare chance I get to drive it at the moment. I need to calm down The engine needs a tune up, and the carb in particular is probably way off the bat at the moment. SoI think it does or will do better than 12mpg, but it is a 6.3 litre v8 from the 70's, so I'm not expecting to join the ranks of the hypermilers in this particular car. It isn't ever going to be economical, and I'm okay with that. I'd never have bought such a thing if fuel efficiency was one of the criteria for choosing a car! |
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Recent trips to the US have seen some good hire car upgrades, and been pleasantly surprised by the mpg. Ram 5.7 hemi was better than 20mpg UK, Mustang 5.0 was 19 which for the performance / hire car abuse was great.
Hemi engine in the ram was lovely too Mustang plain fast.
3 seater pick up with classic insurance Would be nice but house / garden taking priority at moment.
There is a way !
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Rattle can paint going on. Impossible to get a good picture without also propping the lamp up, which I forgot to do but it's the first few coats. Still very patchy and thin. Hopefully shows the repaired surface though. It's a very long gently arching length with a radiused shoulder at the bottom of it. The shoulder changes along the length so I had to get creative with the shaping tools. What some might say is "bodging". In short, I chopped 12" off the end of my daughter's pool noodle and that was the perfect sanding block for matching the shoulder.    |
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And just to preempt any scrutineering observations, the loose masking tape is merely holding the skirt of masking paper up. Beneath it, on the metal*, is a decent mask. * but when I say 'metal' I do not mean 'bare metal', no. |
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Last Edit: Jan 7, 2020 11:57:45 GMT by Deleted
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Waiting for paint to dry, so...
Elkys workshop to Brooklands is 42 miles. So our journey was 84 miles on New Year's day as I don't remember any diversions or detours happening.
The errant statistic before was that I spent £70 at the garage on the way there. True, but the petrol portion was about £55, and that was for Shell V-Power not standard fuel.
The car has an aftermarket LED fuel gauge. 6 (ish) green lights, 3 (?) Red ones. I have no idea what amount of fuel takes it from one light down to the next. But they are big increments not an accurate gauge.
So setting off we had 3 lights lit. Put £55 in and it briefly went to the full LED line.
By the time we got back there were 4 or 5 lights remaining. Let's say 4.
So we didnt use ALL of the £55 of V-Power, but most of it.
So let's assume I used £42 of petrol to do 84 miles.
50p a mile.
Is there a boffins in the house who can look up the cost of V-Power and calculate an approximate MPG suggestion for that?
I'd do it myself but I've got my best trousers on today.
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Let's say £1.30 per litre for the fancy stuff.
That's 32.3 litres, which is 7.1 gallons (UK - natch)
84 miles for 7 gallons is 12mpg.
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Waiting for paint to dry.
Rough calculations. There may be errors.
V-Power is 1.42 per litre
There are 3.7 litres in a gallon
= £5.25 a gallon
I bought 10.5 gallons (?)
I used (pure guess) 9 gallons to cover 84 miles.
= 9.3
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It went even lower hahahaha
I'm going to stop calculating my MPG now. Keep your Land Rover James. It's practically a Tesla.
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Let's say £1.30 per litre for the fancy stuff. That's 32.3 litres, which is 7.1 gallons (UK - natch) 84 miles for 7 gallons is 12mpg. LETS GO WITH MYLITTLETONY'S MATHS! ITS A LOT CHEAPER FOR ME THAT WAY. |
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You're usin' dem 'murican gallons agin
you get 15mpg if it cost that much per litre - it keeps getting better!!
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You're usin' dem 'murican gallons agin you get 15mpg if it cost that much per litre - it keeps getting better!! The one stat I can depend on it the cost of V-Power per litre because I phoned the local Shell garage to get an up to date price when I did my calculations. So there is hope yet. 15mpg is practically a Toyota Prius. PHEW! |
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i proper gallon =4.546 litres ...
1.42/ litre.
84 miles
42 quid..
29.577 litres
=6.5 gallons..
=12.9 mpg.
50 quid on fuel = 10.85 mpg.
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Last Edit: Jan 7, 2020 15:20:28 GMT by ivanhoew
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i proper gallon =4.546 litres ... 1.42/ litre. 84 miles 42 quid.. 29.577 litres =6.5 gallons.. =12.9 mpg. 50 quid on fuel = 10.85 mpg. No Rob, no. Sorry. No. No no no. MyLittleTony is more right. NOT LISTENING LA LA LA, LA LA LA etc |
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