MiataMark
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Pagani Zonda uses a Rover 45 climate control unit The Rover is the bottom picture... Actually this whole thread (or another) could be "parts borrowed from other cars".
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1990 Mazda MX-52012 BMW 118i (170bhp) - white appliance 2011 Land Rover Freelander 2 TD4 2003 Land Rover Discovery II TD52007 Alfa Romeo 159 Sportwagon JTDm
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MiataMark
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^^^^ Didn't a lot of them get written off because of a rear anti-roll bar issue, or lack thereof, allegedly? They had rear anti roll bars. They are not renowned for poor handling. Being around the at the time and having a company XR3i (MKIII), it was probably more a case of the people driving them didn't have the skills to match the car. The company I worked with in the mid to late eighties had a very free company car policy hence people in their early 20's driving Escort RS Turbo's, and RS1600i's etc.
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1990 Mazda MX-52012 BMW 118i (170bhp) - white appliance 2011 Land Rover Freelander 2 TD4 2003 Land Rover Discovery II TD52007 Alfa Romeo 159 Sportwagon JTDm
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Well as long as we are talking about detuning cars before they are released. When Triumph released the Vitesse it was with a 1600cc 6 cylinder version of the Triumph/Standard 2000 this was done by reducing the bore. The reason being that they thought the 2000 motor would be too powerful. The original 1600 was fitted with down draught Solex carbs and produced 70hp, Triumph later fitted it with 150 CD Strombergs but never officially increased the power or torque figures even though it was quicker car.
Adrian
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Vitesse 6 Saloon Vitesse Mk2 Convertible BMW R1150GS VW Amarok
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scimjim
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All this talk about who designed the Citroen BX, Which lists Gandini as the designer. designed by Marcello Gandini of Bertone
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The Doctor
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DeLorean = 1st Unleaded? .... Where does every JapCrap imported into Europe figure in the 2* stakes. Might I assume JapCrap=Unleaded??? Yes I understand your thoughts, perhaps what I should have said was, designed to run on unleaded. Cars that ran on 2 star by default ran on unleaded but they had not been engineered to do so. Afaik, Japan switched over to unleaded fuel in 1972, so about 10 years before the 'first car designed to run on unleaded' was introduced.
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ovimor
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'Bits stolen from other Cars'?
My *Proton SAVVY had the engine 'chopped directly from Renault Clio'...
*Proton had a contract with Renault for the bigger engine line, to go in a larger Proton car, but didn't get through importing/using up the quota >> SAVVY was 'on the drawing board' so Clio motors made up the contract.
OVIMOR ** aka 2sav
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Knowledge is to know a Tomato is a 'fruit' - Wisdom, on the other hand, is knowing not to put it in a 'fruit salad'!
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^^^^ Didn't a lot of them get written off because of a rear anti-roll bar issue, or lack thereof, allegedly? can vouch for how well they handled... a mate of mine had a turbo technics converted example and it coped well enough. on the "shared platform/eingine" front , i was in conversation 30+ years ago with a gent that was involved with the design and development of the 105e anglia and he said even back then that eventually the majority of cars would all share the same underpinnings...well it looks like we are well on the way to that...possibly even more so one they have to start running batteries which presumably will be bought in from external manufucturers?
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'80 s1 924 turbo..hibernating '80 golf gli cabriolet...doing impression of a skip '97 pug 106 commuter...continuing cheapness making me smile!
firm believer in the k.i.s.s and f.i.s.h principles.
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vanpeebles
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Before the number 5 was invented, engineers had to use overdrives to provide additional gearing above 4th.
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ovimor
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Before the number 5 was invented, engineers had to use overdrives to provide additional gearing above 4th. .... A bit of nifty lockout/rewiring gave 8speed boxes... OVIMOR
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Last Edit: Jul 24, 2019 8:57:32 GMT by ovimor
Knowledge is to know a Tomato is a 'fruit' - Wisdom, on the other hand, is knowing not to put it in a 'fruit salad'!
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Lotus Esprit mk II had same rear lights as Toyota 'Initial D' Corolla Trueno AE86 Aston Vantage / Mazda 323 (with some clever masking to hide the fact
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Dez
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Well I didnt know that.......Dez
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I call BS on the DeLorean/unleaded thing too.
DeLorean’s came out in 1981. The US started implementing the phase-in of unleaded fuel in the 70s. The clean air act was amended in 1970 regarding the phase-out of lead in fuel, and all new vehicles had to run on it from late 1974(1975 MY). Fuel filler necks were specifically redesigned to stop confusion over what fuel new cars should have, and to prevent damage to the newly required catalytic converters that were also required in some states from 1975.
So all new vehicles in the us (domestic or import) had to run on unleaded for 6 years before the DeLorean even went into production. This also meant any manufacturer exporting to the us (and vw, bmw, Mercedes and Volvo were all very popular imports at the time, not to mention the Japanese manufacturers) would also all have had to run on unleaded.
The idea that unleaded was a ‘new’ thing in 1981 is utter BS.
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Jul 24, 2019 10:25:28 GMT
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Aston Vantage / Mazda 323 (with some clever masking to hide the fact don't get me started on DB7's lol , The damn things are virtually kit cars, jag this, mazda that, and the DB9 and v8's aren't much better. Still want to own one tho.................. Token fact, Mike parkes who helped design the imp was a Ferrari F1 Driver before working for Rootes
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Jul 24, 2019 10:32:09 GMT
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Pagani Zonda uses a Rover 45 climate control unit The Rover is the bottom picture... Actually this whole thread (or another) could be "parts borrowed from other cars". The Zonda is my dream car, a mate of mine just loves to point this fact out all the time
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Jul 24, 2019 15:54:28 GMT
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I call BS on the DeLorean/unleaded thing too. DeLorean’s came out in 1981. The US started implementing the phase-in of unleaded fuel in the 70s. The clean air act was amended in 1970 regarding the phase-out of lead in fuel, and all new vehicles had to run on it from late 1974(1975 MY). Fuel filler necks were specifically redesigned to stop confusion over what fuel new cars should have, and to prevent damage to the newly required catalytic converters that were also required in some states from 1975. So all new vehicles in the us (domestic or import) had to run on unleaded for 6 years before the DeLorean even went into production. This also meant any manufacturer exporting to the us (and vw, bmw, Mercedes and Volvo were all very popular imports at the time, not to mention the Japanese manufacturers) would also all have had to run on unleaded. The idea that unleaded was a ‘new’ thing in 1981 is utter BS. Well done
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^^^^ Didn't a lot of them get written off because of a rear anti-roll bar issue, or lack thereof, allegedly? They had rear anti roll bars. They are not renowned for poor handling. I could be wrong then, but I thought I remembered articles in CCC when they were first released about' porpoising' under hard cornering and flipping over because of it?
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They had rear anti roll bars. They are not renowned for poor handling. Being around the at the time and having a company XR3i (MKIII), it was probably more a case of the people driving them didn't have the skills to match the car. The company I worked with in the mid to late eighties had a very free company car policy hence people in their early 20's driving Escort RS Turbo's, and RS1600i's etc. [br Could well be, I have to say that I have never driven one, just a standard MK3 escort 1.6i, and I was about 14 reading the articles at the time, I've still got the old copies in the loft somewhere, but I'm not going up there in this heat!
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The TVR Griffith uses mk3 Cavalier rear lights turned upside down and the Cerbera used mk3 Fiesta ones behind a plastic cover.
No photos tho, my phone is knackered!
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1968 Cal Look Beetle - 2007cc motor - 14.45@93mph in full street trim 1970-ish Karmann Beetle cabriolet - project soon to be re-started. 1986 Scirocco - big plans, one day!
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Paul
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Jaguar XJ220 and Rover 200 rear lights are the same... And the Noble M12 shares rear lights with the mk1 Mondeo... This is a fascinating rabbithole we've disappeared down...
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Rich
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Well I didnt know that.......Rich
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And the Noble M12 shares rear lights with the mk1 Mondeo... This is a fascinating rabbithole we've disappeared down... But they aren’t the same tail lights? So, maybe they don’t?
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On the shared thing, Marina door handles & indeed heater vents on the Mrs’s Esprit
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