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Thoughts?
currently daily an 03 4.2 XJ8 but the wife's Largo has failed MoT drastically and I'm considering chopping the Jag in ( value 3.5-4k) and buying 2 cars with the cash. RX8s seem to go from about 1k up. Anyone got any real world experience? My daily commute is a 25 mile round trip up the motorway. Jag averages 25mpg doing this (including weekend bozzing around town).
So.... anyone have any oopinions on this?
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Sept 2, 2017 19:13:42 GMT
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Should i take the radio silence as nobody's been silly enough to do this?! 😂
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Sept 2, 2017 19:19:54 GMT
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My veiw , and its a view based on my own personality so may not be for you .....
I would personally have one old car to tinker with , and something new so you have more money to spend on older stuff . If its just getting to work and get shopping etc i would rather have something new that works and doesnt need £500 spending every year .
Just my view , that s what i would do with 4k ish around .
Personally do not know much about RX8 apart from horrific fuel consumption and that they are cheap because of that and knackered rotor tips .
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adam73bgt
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Sept 2, 2017 19:46:43 GMT
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A mate of mine runs an RX8 as a daily, and I considered one before buying an RX7 to run as a daily instead. Both of us don't have families though! I found the RX8 to be a really nice car to be in, well equipped, nice to look at, practical for a coupe and very cheap to buy. The engine in them is a bit... compromised by having to meet 21st century emissions standards and lacks torque to pull what is a relatively big car. Fuel economy isn't great as a result but it is a very smooth engine and quite addictive to rev out.. (it will need a fair bit of revving to get it going though, might be a bit of a shock from the torquey Jag) The rotary engine itself doesn't scare me so much now, with a bit of understanding about them and driving to their strengths (i.e don't do short journeys with the engine cold all the time) they're fine as a daily. The main thing that put me off about buying an 8 was the process of finding a good one in the first place. I was torn between either getting a slightly more expensive one with loads of history, or a cheaper one that had had a recent rebuild so the previous owner wouldn't have had time to mess it up You can mitigate this a bit by asking the seller for compression results, asking about when the ignition coils, cat were changed etc. I'd say test drive one and see what you think. Personally I'd probably happily run one as a daily, but I'm not sure if I'd do the same with a family..
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Sept 2, 2017 19:51:59 GMT
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I actually really like the RX8 and maybe one day I will get one but for now, agree with Dave. Get a decent cheap to run daily for work & shopping duties!
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Sept 2, 2017 20:44:17 GMT
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I know what's meant by getting a new boring car as a daily and spending money on a project, but i hate the idea of that. Ive discovered that with family comes drastically reduced tinkering time. I've washed the Jag twice in 10 months. I had a rusty Lada that got waxed once a week! So i need to enjoy my daily driving, i need to enjoy my commute! However, as much as if love a foray into the world of rotaries, much internet research tells me it would be a bit daft. God knows what ill get though, nothing for 2k will top the Jag, sadly. Bear ib mind it must be safe.. our beloved old retros wouldnt stand up well in a shunt, so my search has to ignore lots of awesome metal. It also has to fit a baby seat - not an easy task... it also has to be alright on fuel (20mpg+ although higher would be better). Cant be fwd as i hate the handling.... lifted 4x4 could be the next eBay search. Thanks for the advice, guys. 👍
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adam73bgt
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Sept 2, 2017 20:47:20 GMT
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Also forgot to mention, any RX8 from an 06 plate onwards (if I recall correctly) will get stung for nearly £500 a year road tax! 55 plates and earlier are about £290
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Sept 2, 2017 22:29:39 GMT
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My friend had one from nearly new and described the positives as well equipped, great to drive and addictive revs! Downsides were very very very thirsty, and not quite as practical as it first seemed. she sold it when hot starting became a problem and one or two gremlins elsewhere. There is no such thing as a cheap RX8 apparently, mind i was told the same thing about the Boxster-S i just bought despite the naysayers I guess the question is, cheap to buy but how much to own and run ?
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Needs a bigger hammer mate.......
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Sept 2, 2017 23:00:42 GMT
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I used an RX7 FD as a daily for about a month while my normal car was having work done. I managed 30 - 35mpg driving very gently up the motorway, but constant low rpms allegedly doesn't do them any good. Around town I was getting single figures to about 15mpg, but they're constantly on boost. The best I got was 40 quid doing it's maiden journey from Portsmouth to home, and worst was 20 quid for 40 miles. I think the inherent unreliability of the RX7 has unfairly passed onto the RX8, which has updated engine internals and doesn't generate as much heat in the engine bay which kills the sensors/solenoids and vacuum lines. Unfortunately, they got some owners who didn't service the car or understand the engine. If you could afford to run a V8, then you should be fine with an RX8. Apart from apex seals going, there's really nothing else to worry about, which puts it in the same reliability realms of running an MGF. Buy a pre-55 one cheap and try not worry about it not starting again after filling at the petrol station.
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Last Edit: Sept 2, 2017 23:01:05 GMT by DavidB
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ChasR
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Sept 3, 2017 19:14:40 GMT
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My standards are high for buying a car but like yourself I lack time for tinkering. OK, that's a like but if the car goes wrong I generally need it pronto! That and I maintain my sister's car (services etc.) so that also impacts what I can do.
IME £2k these days doesn't buy you much in the way of reliability unless you go quite old and for stuff out of vogue. When I was looking for a car for my sister to replace our 324k Mondeo most £2k stuff was iffy and worse than the Mondeo. I was only selling it as it had a crank seal leak which was uneconomical to repair albeit I came close to doing so. I got very lucky with a '57 Saab 9-3 1.8t Cabrio which literally came to me at a good price by pure luck.
The RX-8 I'd say is on the cusp of being semi in vogue due to their repuation. The Engines with understanding are better than you think. As long as you adhere to shutting them down correctly when cold etc. they can be reliable ; I believe some even have done 6 figure mileages on their original engines with car. They removed the oilers for the rotor tips which can be reinstated with a 2 stroke oiler system which massively helps engine life. The chassis is a joy as are the interior touches.
BUT IME they feel slow. When I went to Spa in 2010 a mate had a 192 RX-8. The 205 GTi felt faster everywhere ; I was shocked when I overtook him at Spa! You really had to scream that RX-8 to get it to use the power. I actually used this to my advantage when I sold my 106 GTi ; yup, he also had an RX-8 and he felt that my midly tuned 106 felt fast in comparison.
The best thing to do is to drive one and make your mind up.
As someone who has bought their share of performance cars cheap (and potentially one I still own) I can say there is rarely such a thing as a bargain. The cheap cars tend to be good pricier cars with searching IME.
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madmog
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Sept 9, 2017 20:37:21 GMT
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w123 or w124 merc - simple poverty spec for nothing to go wrong? Looked after keep going with no real surprises.
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Sept 10, 2017 10:15:41 GMT
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w123 or w124 merc - simple poverty spec for nothing to go wrong? Looked after keep going with no real surprises. I've looked at getting one a few times. £2k IME doesn't get you much and can get you alot of rust for your car. If I could have got a tidy one I would have done 2 years ago. During the W123 days poverty spec also goes down to a non-heated rear window and no radio! A bit of a shock by most modern cars, espeically an XJ.
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Last Edit: Sept 10, 2017 10:16:43 GMT by ChasR
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Sept 16, 2017 10:41:35 GMT
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I ran a RX8 as a daily, 50 mile round trip to work each day. I have 2 teen kids, plenty of space. Handling is perfect, lovely 50/50 weight distribution. I didn't find lack of torque an issue and I'd moved from a E46 M3.
But, the fuel consumption is terrible! If I drove like a saint I'd be lucky to get 21mpg. Normal driving would see 17/18 mpg and that's with a lot of dual carriageway. My E92 V8 M3 is better on fuel and has twice the power!
Fun car but go in with your eyes open and get it compression tested before you buy.. engine rebuild is over £2k. RX8 owners forum is a busy and helpful forum.
Good luck!
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ChasR
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Sept 17, 2017 19:49:19 GMT
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I ran a RX8 as a daily, 50 mile round trip to work each day. I have 2 teen kids, plenty of space. Handling is perfect, lovely 50/50 weight distribution. I didn't find lack of torque an issue and I'd moved from a E46 M3. But, the fuel consumption is terrible! If I drove like a saint I'd be lucky to get 21mpg. Normal driving would see 17/18 mpg and that's with a lot of dual carriageway. My E92 V8 M3 is better on fuel and has twice the power! Fun car but go in with your eyes open and get it compression tested before you buy.. engine rebuild is over £2k. RX8 owners forum is a busy and helpful forum. Good luck! I'll give you the benefit of the doubt but considering our 205 with 170k and being 22 years old was quicker than a mate's RX-8 192 on a trip to Spa as well as at it I find that hard to believe. Our 205 was a 1.6 as well! His RX-8 was barely 5 years old at the time and had less than 50k on the clock... We ruled out buying an RX-8 as a track car for the above reason. They are surprisingly practical and TBH bar the lack of power unless you redline them are a good car.
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Last Edit: Sept 18, 2017 12:46:16 GMT by ChasR
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