moglite
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Nov 10, 2019 18:17:23 GMT
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I said it when you were doing the other side; that rot would have frightened the life out of me. Fair play to you for keeping on with it. ππ Thanks - there can't be that much more to find surely...... Oh wait, I've still got the gobs of weld on the front cross-member to investigate when the engine is out !!
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1967 Morris Oxford Traveller 1979 Toyota LandCruiser BJ40 1993 Daimler Double Six 2007 Volvo XC70 2.4D
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fogey
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Nov 10, 2019 18:28:37 GMT
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Nice repair work
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moglite
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Nov 12, 2019 23:45:02 GMT
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Had a day off work, and got a few hours on the grinders/welder Here is the front wing, and I've started to repair the area where it joins the front valance. All the grot cut out, and a nice flange built up, perfect for bolting to the valance. I wasn't expecting to be able to repair this complex section with a single piece. But it seems the sandbag and ball-pein hammer gods were with me today Yep that went well - good and solid. I've got a replacement headlamp ring from a Mini to weld in. But I'm concentrating on getting all the flanges etc in place to get the wing bolted into place. Thanks for looking.
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1967 Morris Oxford Traveller 1979 Toyota LandCruiser BJ40 1993 Daimler Double Six 2007 Volvo XC70 2.4D
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C-rock
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Nov 15, 2019 20:26:27 GMT
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Looking good moglite...when do you want me to drop my westy off to you so you can weld it up lol
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moglite
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Nov 15, 2019 20:50:54 GMT
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Looking good moglite...when do you want me to drop my westy off to you so you can weld it up lol Love to, but alas my garage is really short - it won't fit - oh well
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1967 Morris Oxford Traveller 1979 Toyota LandCruiser BJ40 1993 Daimler Double Six 2007 Volvo XC70 2.4D
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moglite
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Nov 20, 2019 21:19:30 GMT
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More details to follow, but look what I fitted tonight.........
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1967 Morris Oxford Traveller 1979 Toyota LandCruiser BJ40 1993 Daimler Double Six 2007 Volvo XC70 2.4D
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moglite
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Nov 21, 2019 12:29:33 GMT
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So disc brakes on the front of a Farina. Caveats - I'm not the first, and I'm not a engineer with access to a lathe/mill or stress modelling software. But this is what I've done. Firstly thanks to Seth - as I've robbed the first picture from his conversion, which he has done differently to me - but we started from different places. A bit of background to give the complete story. A semi straightforward way of attaching disc brakes to the front of a Farina is to use MGB kingpins and stub axles in place of the Farina items. ... Seth .... picture showing Farina at the top, which takes a 3/4" fulcrum pin Wider MGB kingpin in the middle, which takes a rubber bush and Seth's machined slimmer kingpin at the bottom Now I bought a set of MGB kingpins and brakes that had been modified to fit a Farina from an abandoned project. These got me some of the way to a conversion, but needed some modification. The bottom of the kingpins looked like this. I'm not sure what that "sleeve" is, but there is something similar in the vertical part of the stub axle. I'll run with it for now, but if it proves an issue, some kind of bronze sleeve may be in order - we'll see. Excuse me for using metric on an old car, but I don't count in 64's A Morris kingpin is 37mm wide An MGB kingpin is 46mm wide Yet the ones I had were machined (and I use the term loosely as they weren't parellel) down to 40mm The way my wishbones (and I assume every other Farina) bolts up gives you this. The gap between the arms is 38mm so just enough space for the cork seals, and so that isn't a mating surface. The astute will notice that something 40mm wide isn't going to fit into that gap. Time for some booty fab engineering in part 2.
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Last Edit: Nov 21, 2019 13:02:29 GMT by moglite
1967 Morris Oxford Traveller 1979 Toyota LandCruiser BJ40 1993 Daimler Double Six 2007 Volvo XC70 2.4D
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moglite
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Nov 21, 2019 13:00:58 GMT
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Part 2 Again more caveats - I don't have a mill or a lathe, or the skill to use one. To miss quote one of my favourite YouTube engineers - "I've only got one d**k I'm gonna have to p*ss with it" First job is to make a jig to hold the kingpin. As luck would have it I had a 3/4" drill the same size as the fulcrum pin. So drill a hole is a chunk of scrap steel. I didn't have a piece of 3/4" stock - but eBay did, so then I had this. Here is where the booty fab comes it. I now have a "stud" in-line with the drill press. So If I can use the drill press to true up and size the kingpins - I'll be golden !! Enter the 2" roloc disc Hell yeah - that was working !! Because it was a Roloc disc and not a grinding stone, there was a little bit of mushrooming, but I did the last few thou' by hand with a file. Filing accurately - who knew pre o-level metalwork class had some value. The original Morris kingpins had a cork seal in the name of semi-grease retention. I planned to use a badly fitting o-ring for the same function. Not that clear, but I was able to set up a burr, and then rotate the kingpin to carve out a rough recess. Needs a little finesse'ing - but an o-ring in place There will be a part 3
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1967 Morris Oxford Traveller 1979 Toyota LandCruiser BJ40 1993 Daimler Double Six 2007 Volvo XC70 2.4D
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moglite
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Nov 21, 2019 13:33:43 GMT
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The original kingpin uses a cotter pin to hold the fulcrum pin central. Along with the end caps - that will keep everything tight and square and hopefully in tolerance. But the MGB parts never had a cotter pin, so I had to drill a hole for one. A kingpin is an impossible thing to hold in a pillar drill, and it just wasn't worth the effort. Some careful measurement and a keen eye...... This is the original cotter pin and the thread has gone, so it isn't pulled up tight. But hopefully you'll agree that isn't going anywhere. Some hard to find 5/16" cotter pins have just landed, so I can continue. Oh yes - and I've got to cut the recesses for the o-rings on that king pin. In contrast the top mount bolts straight up !! Yeah I know all the bolts are loose - this is a test fit Those in the know, say the MGB kingpin lowers the car slightly - whoo-hooo I'll take that. But also that it gives a little positive camber. I planned for that back on page 11 and moved the shock/top mounts in a little. Beer is definitely called for tonight
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Last Edit: Nov 21, 2019 13:34:22 GMT by moglite
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v8ian
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Nov 21, 2019 17:07:07 GMT
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The joys of modifying kingpins, got the T shirt for that, top stuff
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Atmo V8 Power . No slicks , No gas + No bits missing . Doing it in style. Austin A35van, very different------- but still doing it in style, going to be a funmoble
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Nov 21, 2019 21:05:44 GMT
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Quality!
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ovimor
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Nov 22, 2019 15:23:21 GMT
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The joys of modifying kingpins, got the T shirt for that, top stuff As an Ex IMP Nutter... I modified the kingpin camber on my Mk1 Imp by >> cutting a quarter inch off the back 'heel' of the casting + sliding a 1/4" washer in [on top] to equal the gap overall FunFact... To stop the washer coming adrift, I used a short wooden dowel [easily trimmed to height] and popped it out after as I knocked in the securing bolt!! Great improv going on here, with tools to hand, but proper understanding of it being done right! OVIMOR
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Knowledge is to know a Tomato is a 'fruit' - Wisdom, on the other hand, is knowing not to put it in a 'fruit salad'!
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moglite
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Nov 22, 2019 21:05:21 GMT
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The missing caliper turned up today, so time to get the wheels back on. The MGB kingpins seem to drop my car by about 6mm - so better than nothing. Here it is on the bumpstops Some rough measurements seem to indicate about 0.5 degrees of negative camber in this position and about 0.5 degrees of positive camber at ride height. So, yeah happy with that.
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1967 Morris Oxford Traveller 1979 Toyota LandCruiser BJ40 1993 Daimler Double Six 2007 Volvo XC70 2.4D
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moglite
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Dec 22, 2019 23:13:46 GMT
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Managed an afternoon on the Morris for the first time in ages. Time to get stuck into the rust in passenger side A-pillar / inner wing. This is where I started today. The replacement flange for the top of the wing was just pop riveted into place. That would be straightforward to slice and butt weld into place. Started cutting out some of the rot... hmmm triple skinned in places, this is going to take a while. A nice strong repair under the new wing flange. Tick - done. Used tape to give me the basis of a template for the scuttle repair. That repair was an awkward shape, that curved in every direction. It is 100% hidden, so perfection isn't necessary. So I cut the repair piece over sized, and beat it roughly into shape on the sandbag. Offered it up, trimmed....shaped....repeat until bored. Then I started to weld it into place, and finished the final panel beating in situ. Worked well I think Strength is going back in nicely, but it is soaking in Kurust overnight before I close some of these panels up. Thanks for looking.
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Last Edit: Dec 28, 2019 18:36:31 GMT by moglite
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retrolegends
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Dec 23, 2019 20:48:33 GMT
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I love the way you say youβre not an engineer, I think you sell yourself short a little there! Great work. π
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rollingcoal
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we can engineer a way around that, maybe
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Dec 24, 2019 23:14:31 GMT
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Oh and and a trick I picked up from a fellow Farina owner on here I believe. How to mark the holes in the panel...... Make what I believe is called a strap duplicator A stud to fit into the panel in the door, and a hole to mark the drill position that would be me, happy that it helped do the job
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moglite
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Dec 28, 2019 18:32:45 GMT
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Work on the inner wing / A-pillar continues This triangular panel which seems to be nothing more than closure for the back of the hinges, has been pieced back together. This captive was completely missing on mine - just a rusty hole. Must be for a dashboard fixing. The replacement piece was cut from the spare A-pillar I've got, and welded in. This is the a-pillar all done. It is fairly close to the factory setup - aka - a weird mismatch of angles/sections/panels. The drip rail was cut from the donor panel. Even that finishes off 3 layers of sheet metal. It is a more than a bit of a patchwork quilt, but it isn't rusty, and there should be plenty of strength there. The scuttle skin has been repaired/prepped/kurust/primered and is ready to be welded into place. Hopefully I can find a couple of hours tomorrow to get that skin welded into place. As always - thanks for looking
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Last Edit: Dec 28, 2019 18:35:41 GMT by moglite
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eternaloptimist
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Dec 28, 2019 20:52:44 GMT
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Excellent work going on here.
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moglite
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After running out of welding gas after Christmas - I'm back in the game. Seems my R-tech regulator isn't as gas tight as I'd hoped, and I obviously didn't tighten the bottle enough - lesson learned. I've now switched to HobbyMig 10L tanks as the distributor is just 5mins from my house So, I welded in the scuttle repair cut from a spare a-post. I know you lot like a welding shot - so this is my effort. That all ground down pretty nicely, and is ready for filler etc when the time comes. But I was left with this gnarly little in-fill to make and weld in. Thankfully I seem to be getting slightly more adept at hitting metal with hammers on a sandbag Before I show the finished corner, allow me a distraction..... I always hated the Morris bonnet stay, a weird slide/click thing, and worse of all, it was only on one side, so the bonnet wobbled around when open. So a pair of gas struts were in order. The original pair of 500N ones were way too strong - it was always going to be guess work. The second pair of 300N ones are still a bit stiff, but will do for now. I copied the original brackets, as seen on the right - but they weren't up to the gas struts. Remade in much heavier gauge, and we are golden. Temporarily pop-riveted those into place and refitted the bonnet, now that corner is all steel again. Yep very happy with that. Now I've got the tedious task on bonnet/wing/door alignment to get as good as possible. @grumpynorthener - I'll pass the bonnet over for dipping once I've set the alignment, and pinned it for easy refitting. As always - thanks for looking.
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Last Edit: Jan 6, 2020 12:47:24 GMT by moglite
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Unsure of how quick you can sort the alignment on the bonnet but I am likely to be heading to Envirostrip sometime around the middle of this month - Chris
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