fulvia1436
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Apr 19, 2017 18:17:55 GMT
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Good question, Luke.
You can have a perfect, or new subframe, but if the mounting boxes at the front of the sills are shot, the wheel arches will crack. Any movement beyond play in the rubbers is transmitted directly to that weak point.
The mounting boxes are very prone to catastrophic decay!
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'59 Austin A40, '59 VW Beetle, '63 Mk1 Cortina, '57 Austin Gypsy, '68 Fiat 850 Coupe, '68 Alfa Duetto Spider, '72 Lancia Fulvia 1.3S, '73 Lancia 2000 Sedan ie., '72 Lancia 2000 Sedan, '67 Lancia Fulvia 1.3, '83 VW Passat GL5 Estate, '81 Volvo 245 Estate, '85 Lancia Thema 8V Turbo Estate, '99 Lancia Kappa 20V Turbo Estate, '00 VW Sharan VR6, '06 Fiat Multipla 1.9 JTD, '10 Fiat Multipla 1.9 JTD, '66 Lancia Fulvia 1.3
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Apr 20, 2017 10:17:40 GMT
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The front subframe boxes are not the best, obviously they are quite rusty but seem pretty solid. They certainly don't appear to be rotten through but the front near side wing was split which is a sign of stress i believe caused by corrosion in this area. Going to try and rebuild without shifting / replacing the whole unit...we'll see, it might come to it pulling the whole lot out yet. the rear end of the sills are very poor on the near side but not bad at all on the offside. They were litlerally full of curse word...and a dead mouse with most of the padding from my rear seat. :-(
Anyway, started to tackle the first rear inner arch and managed to get a good section, maybe 3/4 of the full lip fabricated so thats currently clamped in place with a bit of persuasion. Need to then get that stitched in so i can work up the rest of the inner arch while i have the correct line to work off.
Really should just concentrate on one section of the car but there are areas of rot that are just screaming to be cut out so keep flitting from one area to another. Not good.
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fulvia1436
Club Retro Rides Member
Finally started a thread for my Fulvia life
Posts: 343
Club RR Member Number: 63
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Flight of the Fulviafulvia1436
@fulvia1436
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Apr 20, 2017 11:45:17 GMT
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Good work!
I would, however, highly recommend removal of subframe c/w engine/transmission /suspension.
Two experienced men can remove it in 38 minutes (our record!), and it makes any work on boxes/wheelarches/subframe, and components, sooo much easier!
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'59 Austin A40, '59 VW Beetle, '63 Mk1 Cortina, '57 Austin Gypsy, '68 Fiat 850 Coupe, '68 Alfa Duetto Spider, '72 Lancia Fulvia 1.3S, '73 Lancia 2000 Sedan ie., '72 Lancia 2000 Sedan, '67 Lancia Fulvia 1.3, '83 VW Passat GL5 Estate, '81 Volvo 245 Estate, '85 Lancia Thema 8V Turbo Estate, '99 Lancia Kappa 20V Turbo Estate, '00 VW Sharan VR6, '06 Fiat Multipla 1.9 JTD, '10 Fiat Multipla 1.9 JTD, '66 Lancia Fulvia 1.3
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Apr 20, 2017 13:00:48 GMT
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Cheers fulvia1436 - now that sounds like a very quick removal of the front subframe. I'm new to fulvias so still working out how they go together so i imagine would take me more half a day plus with a job like that. So cool that it all comes away as one once you have un-plumbed everything.
Your help is much appreciated.
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fulvia1436
Club Retro Rides Member
Finally started a thread for my Fulvia life
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Club RR Member Number: 63
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Flight of the Fulviafulvia1436
@fulvia1436
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Apr 20, 2017 13:42:54 GMT
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Scaffold plank just behind the gearbox aperture, tall trolley jack, remove wheels (don't lift the car under the plank, use the subframe
x-member), remove brake calipers and hang up under wing, replace wheels, disconnect battery, undo steering column from steering box, remove col shroud,
undo wiring connectors from steering col, undo 4x10mm nuts holding steering col under dash, pull col back into car, remove gearstick, drain water system, disconnect rad and remove it, disconnect heater hose from water manifold (nr distrubutor), disconnect exhaust downpipe from manifold, disconnect wiring from coil/starter motor/alternator/oil pressure sender/water temp sender/fan switch/horns, undo 6x19mm bolts, jack up car.
I'm sure I've missed some details, but someone will spot it.
Good luck, and don't hesitate...etc.
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Last Edit: Apr 20, 2017 13:49:09 GMT by fulvia1436
'59 Austin A40, '59 VW Beetle, '63 Mk1 Cortina, '57 Austin Gypsy, '68 Fiat 850 Coupe, '68 Alfa Duetto Spider, '72 Lancia Fulvia 1.3S, '73 Lancia 2000 Sedan ie., '72 Lancia 2000 Sedan, '67 Lancia Fulvia 1.3, '83 VW Passat GL5 Estate, '81 Volvo 245 Estate, '85 Lancia Thema 8V Turbo Estate, '99 Lancia Kappa 20V Turbo Estate, '00 VW Sharan VR6, '06 Fiat Multipla 1.9 JTD, '10 Fiat Multipla 1.9 JTD, '66 Lancia Fulvia 1.3
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Apr 20, 2017 15:49:54 GMT
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Wow, awesome. That will defo come in handy. A check list to hand. Thank you very much.
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scimjim
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Flight of the Fulviascimjim
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Apr 20, 2017 19:31:53 GMT
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Speedo cable? (I'm guessing having never worked on one  |
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Apr 20, 2017 21:26:42 GMT
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don't forget the calipers as the brake hoses were holding the whole subframe to the car when I did it. They leaked really badly after their stretching.... silly mistake. Its much easier than it sounds... honestly. Also there is a section of the footwell that is really hard to get to for de-rusting/welding without getting the subframe out the way. I took the engine out and then the subframe after but I recon it would be much easier to take the whole subframe out rather than just the engine. Ive got a few pictures of the body etc in my thread Pages 4 and 5 and 8 ish Oh and have a look at the great stuff that goldnrust has done. retrorides.proboards.com/thread/142841/1972-lancia-fulvia-coupe-pastures |
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Last Edit: Apr 20, 2017 21:38:20 GMT by lukestew
fulvia series 1 1200. rolling restoration
fulvia series 1 1300. definitely in bits
golf Mk4 v6 4motion. weekend fun
T4 transporter. daily
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Apr 23, 2017 18:46:04 GMT
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Yes I've had a good nose at most of the Fulvia threads once I signed up here. Some great stuff.
Did a bit more over the weekend. Inner arch fabrication and somebody had decided to hack away at both inside quarters...no idea why so bit of shaping and started rebuilding this area too. All the strength I can get will help. :-)
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Apr 23, 2017 18:47:56 GMT
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Apr 23, 2017 18:55:10 GMT
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Rear nearside sill was an absolute joke with filler and curse word. Some folk just don't care about safety. Anyway the offside is nothing like this and actually pretty solid!
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fulvia1436
Club Retro Rides Member
Finally started a thread for my Fulvia life
Posts: 343
Club RR Member Number: 63
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Flight of the Fulviafulvia1436
@fulvia1436
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Apr 23, 2017 19:28:02 GMT
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Speedo cable? (I'm guessing having never worked on one |
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'59 Austin A40, '59 VW Beetle, '63 Mk1 Cortina, '57 Austin Gypsy, '68 Fiat 850 Coupe, '68 Alfa Duetto Spider, '72 Lancia Fulvia 1.3S, '73 Lancia 2000 Sedan ie., '72 Lancia 2000 Sedan, '67 Lancia Fulvia 1.3, '83 VW Passat GL5 Estate, '81 Volvo 245 Estate, '85 Lancia Thema 8V Turbo Estate, '99 Lancia Kappa 20V Turbo Estate, '00 VW Sharan VR6, '06 Fiat Multipla 1.9 JTD, '10 Fiat Multipla 1.9 JTD, '66 Lancia Fulvia 1.3
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fulvia1436
Club Retro Rides Member
Finally started a thread for my Fulvia life
Posts: 343
Club RR Member Number: 63
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Flight of the Fulviafulvia1436
@fulvia1436
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Apr 23, 2017 19:28:53 GMT
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Correct. We'll spotted
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'59 Austin A40, '59 VW Beetle, '63 Mk1 Cortina, '57 Austin Gypsy, '68 Fiat 850 Coupe, '68 Alfa Duetto Spider, '72 Lancia Fulvia 1.3S, '73 Lancia 2000 Sedan ie., '72 Lancia 2000 Sedan, '67 Lancia Fulvia 1.3, '83 VW Passat GL5 Estate, '81 Volvo 245 Estate, '85 Lancia Thema 8V Turbo Estate, '99 Lancia Kappa 20V Turbo Estate, '00 VW Sharan VR6, '06 Fiat Multipla 1.9 JTD, '10 Fiat Multipla 1.9 JTD, '66 Lancia Fulvia 1.3
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Apr 23, 2017 19:54:42 GMT
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Ooh that's crusty
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really nice work....
eating an elephant is no easy task...
JP
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I know its spelled Norman Luxury Yacht, but its pronounced Throat Wobbler Mangrove!
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really nice work.... eating an elephant is no easy task... JP Thanks redwagon it will come together...and yes you're so right. It does feel like I've got an elephant to eat. Plus nice nod to the HFs of the lancia world. Leaping Elephant. |
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Nicely done. Myself, I like a lancia elephant.!!
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fulvia series 1 1200. rolling restoration
fulvia series 1 1300. definitely in bits
golf Mk4 v6 4motion. weekend fun
T4 transporter. daily
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ET
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Good job! and definitely keep it up!
My dad and i restored a Beta Coupe, I hope the fulvia metal is a bit better haha!
Either way we also had a saloon fulvia, was really fun to drive. My guess it that the coupe is even more fun, so you have something nice in store !
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Good job! and definitely keep it up! My dad and i restored a Beta Coupe, I hope the fulvia metal is a bit better haha! Either way we also had a saloon fulvia, was really fun to drive. My guess it that the coupe is even more fun, so you have something nice in store ! Cheers ET...the metal is not the best but i am trying to reuse what i have. Cheers |
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