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Well I have no completed projects, 2 current projects on the go and about 3 waiting in line so given I have plenty of time off over the Christmas holidays what would be right thing to do.. Start browsing eBay for 1980/1990's barges probably isint the answer to that question. I had my mind settled that out of a Carlton, Senator or Granada that a Granada would be my barge choice. No point in buying a 2.0 for it can hardly move itself, A 2.9 cologne is not much better therefore it was going to be a 2.9 BOA Cosworth version. Unfortunately for me there was one for sale on eBay when I went browsing. A black over black 1993 2.9 BOA Granada Scorpio that was near enough fully specced. The more I thought about it the more I wanted it, I inquired about the car on the 27/12/16 and after thinking about it (aka: talking myself into overpaying for it) I bought the car blind without seeing it earlier today. Entering the number plate into MOT checker revealed nothing surprising. A car check was also done that revealed nothing that wasn't mentioned in the advert. Some of the rough history of the car that I know of is as follows. It is a Black 1993 Ford Granada Scorpio 24V Auto saloon. It was first registered in London on the 24th June 1993 as K859 SBY. It has had 8 owners with the current owner buying the car in May 2015. The previous owner bought the car during December 2009. It had a personalized number plate LYA1Y during October 1999, not sure for how long the car held this plate. Around 2010 she failed the MOT only once on some rust but its to be expected of a UK early 90's Ford, suprisingly seems to have passed all other MOT's and never really appears to have been of the road for any considerable length of time. During June 2016 the car was involved in a small incident where the passenger side headlight,sidelight were broken and the wing+bumper was damaged. That resulted in the car being declared Cat D by insurance. A Ford breaker wound up with the car from the insurance company but decided against breaking it. It was listed on eBay where I found it and bought it. 1) Auction photo showing the front drivers corner. Still retains its Cosworth wheels which need to be resprayed. I'm unsure about keeping the window tints. The body kit consisting of the bumpers and side skirts are actually Ford parts in so far as I am aware but these will be coming off the car as soon as possible. I'm thinking I will keep the spoiler for I like the look of it. 2) The rear of the car showing the spoiler. The paintwork appears is in very good condition which was one of the reasons I bought the car for its was a sign that she has had money spent on a respray or else had quite a bit of care over its lifetime. 3) Side view. Paint work looks good here aswell and overall the car looks to be straight. 4) The interior. I think I've located a factory headunit which will fill the hole in the dash. Aside from this the interior seems to be in very good condition. Features include heated black leather electric seats, reclining back seats, sunroof, cruise control and fuel economy guage among other things. 5) And here is the main reason for purchasing her. The 24v Cosworth BOA V6 putting out around 195 HP. Will change the timing chain very shortly to avoid problems as the car comes with no history. Aside from this the seller says is starts and goes well with no noise upon startup so hopefully there should be no worries. I arranged for the car to be brought home earlier this evening. It should be here by the weekend hopefully so plans for the car are to sort out the crash damage with a new headlight,sidelight and wing (which is spot welded to the car.. Not a fun repair). The body kit will be removed before it makes me or anyone else throw up. As the body kit fits on over the factory bumpers I assume both bumpers will need to be resprayed as well as the wing. The timing chain will be replaced and the rest of the car given a general tidy up. Will hopefully make for a nice machine for cruising. If anyone could give me any history of this car it would be greatly appreciated, photos of the car at any shows,etc would be great.
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Last Edit: Jan 3, 2017 14:03:30 GMT by sa1clover
1951 Ferguson TED 20 / 1988 Ford Sierra Sapphire 2.0 1990 Isuzu Bighorn 2.8 Irmscher R / 1991 Pajero 2.5 SWB 1991 Vauxhall Carlton GSI3000 / 1991 Toyota Corolla van 2.2TD 1992 Toyota Corolla 1.6 GTI / 93 Ford Granada Scorpio Cosworth 1994 Toyota Corolla GXI / 1995 Toyota Corolla 1.6 Si 1995 Nissan Vanette / 1997 Toyota Starlet 1.5td Glanza 1997 Toyota Carina E saloon / 1998 Toyota Carina 2.0 Exeuctive
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Nice looking barge, although I am biased as I do like my fords. It looks a bit 'gangster' in its current guise. Any other plans for it? Power increase?
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Yes someone was modifying her a bit with the painted wheels, tints and bumpers and I'm sure there's people out there who would like it, its just not to my taste. No other plans apart from putting her fairly standard. Possible hit of the lowering stick and new wheels but that will be about the height of it. Power wise I've heard of people using V6 vectra injectors along with aftermarket management which is not my specialty at all. Plans are to sort out the easy stuff first then worry about power upgrades.
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1951 Ferguson TED 20 / 1988 Ford Sierra Sapphire 2.0 1990 Isuzu Bighorn 2.8 Irmscher R / 1991 Pajero 2.5 SWB 1991 Vauxhall Carlton GSI3000 / 1991 Toyota Corolla van 2.2TD 1992 Toyota Corolla 1.6 GTI / 93 Ford Granada Scorpio Cosworth 1994 Toyota Corolla GXI / 1995 Toyota Corolla 1.6 Si 1995 Nissan Vanette / 1997 Toyota Starlet 1.5td Glanza 1997 Toyota Carina E saloon / 1998 Toyota Carina 2.0 Exeuctive
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mk2cossie
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The front and rear bumpers look to be Ford RS accessories and if they are, are over bumper covers I do believe Looks like quite the find though
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Cool. Most of these became engine donors.
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God, I want this.
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Top grammar tips! Bought = purchased. Brought = relocated Lose = misplace/opposite of win. Loose = your mum
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I'm glad this has gone to a good home, it was in my watch list for a while but couldn't justify another car. Look forward to seeing your progress with it.
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I like the RS option kit, but it really does emphasise how under-wheeled the mk3 is.
The kit makes it look like a supersaloon version of the DTM Fox Body Mustangs, which is right up my street.
I presume you'll be moving the bumpers on rather than just binning them..?
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Top grammar tips! Bought = purchased. Brought = relocated Lose = misplace/opposite of win. Loose = your mum
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njw
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I've got a real soft spot for the mk3 Granada, I had a white '92 2.0 GLX (J508 DNN!) with an RS bodykit and wheels three weeks after passing my driving test at 18 years old and that car taught me more about car control than anything I've had since and I've had a few tasty machines over the years (e39 M5 for instance). It was a pre-facelift so looked considerably different though to the beast above. There was actually a dark green 24v hatchback for sale very locally about a month or so ago and I literally had to sit on my hands to stop myself bidding on it or phoning the seller to see what he/she would let it go for!
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bortaf
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I don't think that is an RS kit? the RS kit fit the bottom of the standard bumpers IIRC? look like mk2 or 3 mondeo bumpers to me, looks good either way and it's good to see a 24v lump still in a Mk3!
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R.I.P photobucket
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Love these, bought one with a months MoT when I was 16 to tinker with, my grandad used it for that month, 2.9 Scorpio in white, £120 with all the toys and working as well. Would really like another but as with Sierra's they have taken off price wise
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I like the RS option kit, but it really does emphasise how under-wheeled the mk3 is. I presume you'll be moving the bumpers on rather than just binning them..? *n Yep the wheels do look lost in the arches, I have a set of Mercedes 18'' Monoblocks sitting in the shed that I might try on and see how they look, Have a feeling 18'' wheels will be too big but. No I won't be binning the kit despite my dislike of it. I'll keep it for the meantime, Once I find out some history on the car and whither she had the kit from new or not I'll either keep it with the car or sell it on. In so far as I know there were 2 kits offered by Ford, This kit and a 2nd more popular (thankfully) RS kit that consisted of smaller skirts , a 3 leg spoiler and a small lip for both the front and back bumper. If anyone knows of one of these kits for sale I'd be interested. 6) Photo shamelessly stolen from Google. Front view of a Granny with a RS kit front lip (with a laguna splitter added) 7) Rear view showing the rear lip and the RS kit 3 leg spoiler.
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1951 Ferguson TED 20 / 1988 Ford Sierra Sapphire 2.0 1990 Isuzu Bighorn 2.8 Irmscher R / 1991 Pajero 2.5 SWB 1991 Vauxhall Carlton GSI3000 / 1991 Toyota Corolla van 2.2TD 1992 Toyota Corolla 1.6 GTI / 93 Ford Granada Scorpio Cosworth 1994 Toyota Corolla GXI / 1995 Toyota Corolla 1.6 Si 1995 Nissan Vanette / 1997 Toyota Starlet 1.5td Glanza 1997 Toyota Carina E saloon / 1998 Toyota Carina 2.0 Exeuctive
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njw
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Love these, bought one with a months MoT when I was 16 to tinker with, my grandad used it for that month, 2.9 Scorpio in white, £120 with all the toys and working as well. Would really like another but as with Sierra's they have taken off price wise I always fancied another but never bothered as I got stuck in with the Sierras instead, when I fancied a change from the Sierras a few years ago I looked about for a nice V6 Scorpio (mk3, not the absolutely horrendous bug eye monstrosity!) but they were big bucks so ended up with an e39. For the same sort of money as what a decent mk3 Scorpio would have cost I picked up a very nice 535i sport. The funny thing is that the e39 didn't seem to be a great deal more refined or comfortable than my old Granada was, Ford knew how to build some proper cars years ago! edit; The kit on the car above was what was fitted to mine.
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Last Edit: Jan 3, 2017 21:48:58 GMT by njw
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Del
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I believe this is a Futura bodykit, this car used to live in East London and once pulled up next to me (when I had my 2.0) at the Moby Dick in Romford. If you join the Mk3 and Scorpio group on Facebook, the previous owner is on there (or at least was).
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Last Edit: Jan 4, 2017 9:20:10 GMT by Del
'I come not from Heaven, but from Essex'. The Retro Rider formerly known as Silvermac.
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If you join the Mk3 and Scorpio group on Facebook, the previous owner is on there (or at least was). I'd done a brief search of facebook before for Granada groups and never found that one. Did a bit more of a through search this time, found it, was added and am now in contact with the previous owner who said he is going to forward on the cars history/paperwork to me and to top it off I've found a few old photos of the car pre accident. Absolutely delighted with that. Can't thank you enough for lead on that page Del.
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1951 Ferguson TED 20 / 1988 Ford Sierra Sapphire 2.0 1990 Isuzu Bighorn 2.8 Irmscher R / 1991 Pajero 2.5 SWB 1991 Vauxhall Carlton GSI3000 / 1991 Toyota Corolla van 2.2TD 1992 Toyota Corolla 1.6 GTI / 93 Ford Granada Scorpio Cosworth 1994 Toyota Corolla GXI / 1995 Toyota Corolla 1.6 Si 1995 Nissan Vanette / 1997 Toyota Starlet 1.5td Glanza 1997 Toyota Carina E saloon / 1998 Toyota Carina 2.0 Exeuctive
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Del
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You're more than welcome. I'd never have had a clue if I hadn't had a Mk3 myself, mind you
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'I come not from Heaven, but from Essex'. The Retro Rider formerly known as Silvermac.
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Well where do I begin.. This car has been one hell of a disappointment. I first arranged transport on the 02/01/17 via Thomas McGee Transport in Derry, found via a advert on Donedeal. Was told the car would be collected and would be back by the next weekend. No word from him over the weekend, Called him on Monday and out came some bull about bust pipes, usual kinda waffle. Arranged transport with him again, was told it would be collected Tuesday week. Called him when the car should have been delivered again and he had ''forgot'' to collect it again.. Fantastic. Arranged transport with him again, was told it would be collected Tuesday week. Got a call from McGee saying that this transporter was at the yard to collect the car and the seller was nowhere to be seen. Seller was 15 mins away and did not have the car ready, Car couldn't be collected so transporter went on. Transporter had not contacted the seller beforehand as I had instructed, just landed out of the blue. Arranged transport with McGee for the next week, Was told when it would be home. Called him when he said it would be home and I think I got the bust pipe on the truck excuse again? Can't mind too well at this stage. Car still wasn't collected after 3 weeks. Arranged with McGee again for the next week, Nope he didn't bother his hole that time either. Arranged collection with the same buck once again (Do I ever learn?) and you guessed it, not collected. After 6? attempts my patience was wearing thin and the sellers as well, Hats off to the seller for having this much patience with me I thought. Arranged Transport with another fella from just outside Strabane, He said the car would be collected on Tuesday/Wednesday (5 weeks after buying the car at this stage). Received word from the Seller on Wednesday night that the car still wasn't collected. Contacted this other transporter and he was apologetic and contacted the seller and sorted it out, Collection was then arranged for Tuesday the following week. Received word on Wednesday that the car had been collected, ''Its a miracle!'' I thought. I went to collect the car from the transporters yard near Strabane last Friday (10/02/17), Once I seen the car my heart sank. Take a look at the photos from the first post, It was these photos in the eBay add and a chat with the seller over the phone that I had bought the car off of. I took the risk and bought the car unseen... Well that backfired... Flat tires, Side skirts not far from falling off her, paint fallen off the side skirts all from first inspection before I had walked around the car. Walked over and looked at the crash damage on the front LHS corner of the car. I had asked the seller was the front passenger wheel hit in the crash to which I was told ''No''. The fact that I was fit to move the front passenger wheel back and fourth with my hand like it was on a swing would determine that he was in fact lying. Looked around the car and it got worse and worse. Anyway I paid the transporter anyway and let him go on his way, The car had a flat battery hence wouldn't start. The connections going to the battery terminals had been cut off and were cable tied to the terminals on the battery. This had to be sorted before even starting the car which took a short while.I had brought a battery so stuck that in and she fired up. Pumped up a few tires, stuck some petrol in and a mate who has trade insurance took on the task of driving her home. It was noticed shortly after starting off that the battery light was on. Given that it was dark we had the headlights, with the battery not charging it only lasted about 2 mins before the car cut out. The car was towed off the road and dumped in a (very understanding) mans yard at about 10:00 on a Friday night. The car sat here till Sunday night when I went to collect it with a trailer. Another battery stuck in, the car was started and reversed onto the trailer. Now normally I'd drive a car onto a trailer but in this case it wound up not being that easy. With the car on a gravel yard when the she was driven forward the loose front wheel would move that far back in the arch it would catch on some part of the arch/shell and would lock the wheel. I don't know how this wasn't a problem for my mate who tried to drive it prior to me but anyway. This was not a problem when reversing the car so she was reversed onto the trailer and brought home. 8) A dark photo I know but this is the car back in the yard. Bumper broken and bonnet dented. 9) Rear view showing the exhaust hanging off her and a big dirty looking scrape down the back bumper. 10) The damage to the car itself, about as bad as expected aside from the movement in the wheel. 11) The punched out door look (was told about this). The paint fallen off the skirts and the skirts just barely held onto the car. 12) Thankfully the interior turned up no nasty surprises with almost everything appearing to work. Nice and comfortable and a lovely smell of the leather to boot. 13) The engine bay. No surprises here aside from the hacked wiring around the battery terminals and the fact that some miserable sod has nicked all the plastic engine bay covers. 14) Not what you want to see when you buy a car, bargain basement ditchfinder tires, aka Nankangs. Don't say a whole pile for how the rest of the car might have been maintained. 15) In the shed beside her stablemate, a 1988 Sapphire 2.0 Ghia. Well that sums the car up, I was thinking it was a dear car before I took delivery of it going by the photos/description from the seller. Now that I have it I can confirm it most certainly is a dear car. Honestly that sick of it now I want nothing to do with it and I'm in it for twice its worth. I bought it with intentions of fixing it but its now on a fine line from getting broken for parts. The list of things wrong with the car is fairly long for I have not mentioned the half of them here.
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1951 Ferguson TED 20 / 1988 Ford Sierra Sapphire 2.0 1990 Isuzu Bighorn 2.8 Irmscher R / 1991 Pajero 2.5 SWB 1991 Vauxhall Carlton GSI3000 / 1991 Toyota Corolla van 2.2TD 1992 Toyota Corolla 1.6 GTI / 93 Ford Granada Scorpio Cosworth 1994 Toyota Corolla GXI / 1995 Toyota Corolla 1.6 Si 1995 Nissan Vanette / 1997 Toyota Starlet 1.5td Glanza 1997 Toyota Carina E saloon / 1998 Toyota Carina 2.0 Exeuctive
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mk2cossie
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Nankangs aren't that bad to be fair Shame about the palarva getting the car transported though. Is the wheel loose issue not just the washers rotten/damaged on the antiroll bar through the front track control arms?
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Feb 15, 2017 16:44:36 GMT
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I almost bought the car for the engine, was glad when i saw your post it was going to get fixed up. Shame the seller wasnt straight up with you and its worse than expected.
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1973 MK1 2600 Capri - Located in Texas 1976 3.0S Capri - X-Pack long term Project 1978 2.0S Capri 1984 Transit County MK2 4x4 LWB 2.5DI 1985 2.8i Special Capri (v8 5.0L) 1986 2.8i Special Capri 1987 280 Turbo Technics Capri 1993 1.8TD P100 - Beater, parts collector 2008 BMW 320i Touring - Daily
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breng
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Feb 15, 2017 19:17:14 GMT
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Gutted. For me I would be having a look under the kit - if it's ok might be worth plodding on.
If it's rotten I'd be baling out.
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