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Hmm, not convinced by the proposed chin spoiler butchery. Might look a bit like Ming the Mercilesses's'es beard. That's EXACTLY why I like it hahaha. Cutting it how I'm considering cutting it is absolutely stupid because I then end up with a chin spoiler that isn't capable of doing anything at all. But... I feel the SE5 has a weak chin and needs something down there to suggest prowess and machismo and therefore why not go for a set of Lemmy side-chops / demon fangs. Perhaps you could work things out by growing and shaping your own facial topiary first. Or if there's no time for that head out to the bars and loitering places of those persons sporting suitable jaw crops and offer a free style and shape. Might help you figure out just what look you are going for. This has given me an idea. I might start making sports car chin spoilers for faces. Clip on round the ears, little muscle car graphics on them, maybe some useful features like a smartphone holder and a clip for a drinking straw. Maybe the range can be extended to Webasto style toupees that can be slid back for a more informal look. The slatted armadillo roof lining. I have not been to the Sydney Opera House. But I dearly hope it is similar inside, maybe in the janitors bathroom at least. I wasn't going to mention it because I don't like to brag, but with the roof lining in place the in-cabin acoustics are sensational. If I speak softly from the driver's seat, I can hear what I said perfectly clearly down in the passenger footwell as long as I get myself down there quickly enough. Probably not conducive to road safety... but nevertheless it's a marvel of sonic architecture, and a key selling point for the future. |
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Chins-Am jaw splitter: Prototype 1 It's a rough first pass, and clearly too big at the moment, but this definitely has legs as a concept. I can see it being a big hit with the Amish community on soup night. I think it would need to be balanced out by a bitchin' pair of sunshades... which I don't possess, but the ones in the picture give a rough sense of the total effect.  You don't get this sort of innovation from Grumpy and Blackpop. I'm just saying. |
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Mar 28, 2018 10:21:55 GMT
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Or... Get a mk1 Cl front lip which is smaller and will i'm fairly sure will have identical fixings.  small chin strapI'm in with the GRP guys today so i'll discuss the roof  |
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Mar 28, 2018 10:26:58 GMT
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Chins-Am jaw splitter: Prototype 1 It's a rough first pass, and clearly too big at the moment, but this definitely has legs as a concept. I can see it being a big hit with the Amish community on soup night. I think it would need to be balanced out by a bitchin' pair of sunshades... which I don't possess, but the ones in the picture give a rough sense of the total effect. You don't get this sort of innovation from Grumpy and Blackpop. I'm just saying. Where's a 'dislike button' when you need one ! |
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Mar 28, 2018 10:49:37 GMT
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how about ..... cutting it in half ,and adding a sugru black plastic laminate ,so its as long as the car is wide ? I was thinking the same, got to be worth a go... |
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www.Auto-tat.co.uk'96 Range Rover P38 DSE (daily driver) '71 Reliant Scimitar SE5 GTE 3.0ltr Jag V6 Conversion '79 Reliant Scimitar SE6A 3.0ltr 24valve Omega Conversion '85 Escort Cabrio 2.0 Zetec - Sold '91 BMW 525i - Sold '82 Cortina 2.9i Ghia Cosworth - Sold '72 VW Campervan - Sold '65 LandRover 88" - Sold
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Mar 28, 2018 10:55:46 GMT
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how about ..... cutting it in half ,and adding a sugru black plastic laminate ,so its as long as the car is wide ? Somehow Ivanhoew I always miss your posts. I suspect you have a technique for inserting them after I've read the latest posts. Yes, this is an idea I'm thinking about. I suspect this spoiler, which is rigid and is merely screwed onto my chin with wood screws, might not match the contours if I move it outwards... But I'm going to check it out. |
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Mar 28, 2018 11:22:15 GMT
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I don't think there is a true and dependable line, curve or angle anywhere on a Scimitar. They're like pencil sketches rendered as finished items. I stripped out my grill and the backing plastic I'd put behind it. Back to the drunken rollerskater's spare wheel coolers...  I retract any criticism of the previous hole cutter though, because frankly there's not actually any way of getting the holes right. You'd think, by looking at it, that what's needed is a rectangle of the right length and width. Oh no. So wrong. So very very wrong. There's a concave curve on the top line, a convex curve on the bottom, and neither are pure curves. Far from it. Add to that that the panel also needs to curve gently backward at each end. making a reliable template is vital as I am down to my very last scrag end of material so I only have one chance at cutting this right, and it's fissing it down outside so I can't sit out there gently carving an oversized piece into shape as I have done with everything else on this ruddy car. Removed Halfords grill, template 1, template 2 and template 3...  None of them could be relied upon as templates, so I had to do some lateral thinking, which required me to eat the strawberries so I could cut up the punnet to make an articulated template  Once the articulated template was securely adjusted to be a perfect match for the hole, I stuck it down on my last remaining piece of material and cut the piece.  These look like bad cuts done by an amateur. Actually they are extremely accurate cuts done by somebody who once had a career cutting materials for display graphics. This is how bad a Scimitar is...   So now I'm terrified of cutting holes in it, so I think I'll just colour it up and fix it in and go for the Tesla 'un-grilled' look. I just don't dare attempt to place holes in this one piece I have and get a decent end result...     === HMMMMMMMM Maybe something like this...  which would look something like this...  |
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its obvious really ... while you are apologising to the chap you ran into whilst crouching in the footwell listening to yourself.. having travelled at 743 mph (speed of sound at footwell level).... have a ponder on this idea .
Nip down to b and q , and buy a series of letters ,3 inches tall, in faux brass plated pot/traveller metal , and spell out S.C.I.M.I.T.R . in the grill orifice ! with a black back ground that should look triffic .
for added hersuitnosity , a row of the choice of every millenial , colour changing leds, in the above grill face , for night time brassy sparklage ...
i mean..... WHATS NOT TO LIKE !
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dated 28/03/2018 for when you read it 5 pages on .
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Mar 28, 2018 13:57:08 GMT
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No to the wavy holes. It makes the car look like it’s talking in a 1970s “Charlie Says” safety information film.
I think, if it were mine, I’d block the holes off and fashion a grille to sit there, much like the stock one.
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My worst worry about dying is my wife selling my stuff for what I told her it cost...
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Mar 28, 2018 14:11:07 GMT
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Well, I went ahead anyway. I had to cut each hole by hand with my trusty scalpel. Only took an hour or two. Decided to grey the rims of each hole just to give them a bit of the old Elton John. I quite like it. It's got to be filled round the edges and then painted, but I like the look. Charlie Says Boo-Ya!   Crazy really. I've spent a whole day making a fake version of what's actually really behind the fake version. |
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If it were mine, I’d block the holes off and fashion a grille to sit there, much like the stock one. You'd be better off buying a Scim grill off ebay. They're only a couple of quid. |
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Mar 28, 2018 14:25:46 GMT
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Real life looks better than the mock-up. Possibly the grey seals the deal. 😃
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My worst worry about dying is my wife selling my stuff for what I told her it cost...
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Mar 28, 2018 14:38:43 GMT
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Hahaha, possibly. It will look much better when I give this whole car its final finish up and smooth over before Goodwood. To be honest though I'm not looking to make this car look nice, original, or restored. I'm aiming for something quite crude and brutish. Somebody on Scimweb offered me a free grill for the car when I first got it. But I don't really want a grill on it. I really liked the holes it came with apart from the fact they were all over the place. If they'd been done neatly I'd have just stuck with them and blanked them off from behind. I suppose in my head I'm hoping to end up with a more humble and milder (and less awesome) version of this kind of thing ...  |
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Mar 28, 2018 14:46:37 GMT
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Nip down to b and q , and buy a series of letters ,3 inches tall, in faux brass plated pot/traveller metal , and spell out S.C.I.M.I.T.R . in the grill orifice ! with a black back ground that should look triffic . I'm determined to get the phrase "UNHOLY PETROLEUM" onto this car somewhere (I have no idea why really, I just like the way it sounds). So I did contemplate making up a long piece of typography on a single line, out of my last remaining piece of thin sheet metal. But it would have taken me about three weeks to cut it all out, and frankly it all starts to look a bit like a suburban middle-class front porch or a PT Cruiser Owner's CLub's pride and joy with bits of dress-up jewellery spattered about.  Anyway... vampire chin-beard will have to wait. I'm going to have to jack the front up to get at the screws, and it's very very wet out there today. |
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It looks so much better without that stupid chin. Needs cleaning and painting down there, but otherwise, infinitely preferable  |
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Mar 28, 2018 20:05:07 GMT
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just need to cut about 3 coils off the front springs ,and your done |
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Mar 28, 2018 20:26:14 GMT
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Ha... my days of going low are behind me. This car seems to ride significantly higher than other Scims and I suspect it's not set up right at the front at all. But.... for 18months I had tyres that rubbed the wheel arches even at this height (now resolved with a tyre change) and frankly I'm not going to start investing in possible nose lowering that might just land me back there with rubbing tyres. I explored the possibilities of lowering on Scimweb a while back and none of it seemed like a quick, cheap fix that offered any guarantees I'd end up with zero tyre rubbing at the end of it.
I quite like the higher ride height. I never have to worry about speed bumps. Optional anecdote follows....
My Humber was pretty much slammed on the floor, and it was constantly blowing at the downpipe/exhaust joint because the exhausts would constantly get dragged on something. I remember one day picking it up from having some substantial work done to it, and the exhausts had been re-attached properly as a kind gesture by the man who was doing the work. It sounded lovely and deep through the exhausts for a change. Drove it down the road to Nyman's Gardens for a coffee, and promptly dragged the exhausts off again on a blind speed bump in the car park that was hidden by leaves. Twenty minutes they lasted. I was ruddy furious and as I ranted at the very gentle elderly people who man the doors at Nymans I realised that it was the last time I'd ever bother with a lowered car.
"Just re-attach them" I hear you thinking. "Sure. Or just don't have a lowered car and never have to bother doing that over and over", you might hear me thinking in reply.
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Hahaha, possibly. It will look much better when I give this whole car its final finish up and smooth over before Goodwood. To be honest though I'm not looking to make this car look nice, original, or restored. I'm aiming for something quite crude and brutish. Somebody on Scimweb offered me a free grill for the car when I first got it. But I don't really want a grill on it. I really liked the holes it came with apart from the fact they were all over the place. If they'd been done neatly I'd have just stuck with them and blanked them off from behind. I suppose in my head I'm hoping to end up with a more humble and milder (and less awesome) version of this kind of thing ... You’re pretty much there, a quick hammer blow to a headlight, cut a hole in your bonnet and gaffa tape a sewing machine to your rocker cover. Job done. |
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i am guessing wrong wheel offset on the front then ?
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i am guessing wrong wheel offset on the front then ? Possibly Robert. Something is not quite the ticket in the front corners. I filled pages and pages on Scimweb trying to get to the bottom of it. Nothing conclusive could ever be found by discussing it over the t'internet and posting crappy phone pics. The initial issue realised on day 1 of ownership was that the front wheels were set very far forwards in the wheel arch. Lots of suggestions were made for this, and there were various things I should inspect... all of which I did and none of which appeared - to my eyes and snapshots - to be wrong. Everything matched more knowledgeable Scim owners' descriptions of what should be there. Then a cavalcade of other Scim owners posted pics of their cars saying "mine's like that too. It's just how they are". I've seen many in the flesh since with the same affliction. (ref pics from day 1 of ownership)   Next was my wheels. They are 8x14 all round and they had 205/70 tyres all round. For a long time people were saying "That's why the wheel rubs. They should be 7x14 and shod in 195/70". Then lots of others came along to say "Mine are 8x14s all round too it's not wrong". I swapped the front tyres for 195s and they no longer touch the arches, but the wheels are still pitched forwards (like many other SE5s) I've checked out everything and in the end concluded that unless an experienced Scimitar mechanic inspected it I would never have any reliable sense of what is incorrect. The car drives, steers, stops, and behaves itself. So I've just learned to live with it. Therefore I'd be risking wasting a lot of money by just guessing and buying a component to try and resolve it. The only alternative would be that I blind-purchase entirely new corners from a Scim specialist and have the entire lot pulled out and rebuild anew. I costed that up. I wont be doing that anytime soon!!! |
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